10 years and forced 144hz refresh rate.

[Sharunas]

Did you know that for 10 years payday 2 only worked in 144hz refresh rate even if you have 240hz monitor ?? i have 180hz and the game felt weird even if i got 300 fps.
to fix this go to %LOCALAPPDATA%\PAYDAY 2\renderer_settings.xml and edit refresh rate from 144 to your monitors refresh rate in the bottom , if the file opens up in web browser and it doesnt let you edit it download XML copy editor store edition from microsoft store for free and edit this file with that program and save.
not that this 32bit diesel engine game uses 1 CPU core and 2 if forced but unoptimized, but it was forcing only 144hz refresh rate without any option to change it, whats also funny is that an old intel processor runs this game better than modern ones or modern ryzen cpus.
anyways glad to have helped for thos who have higher refresh rate monitors than 144hz. ;)
let us hope that payday 3 will be optimized

[Mementocity]

I will never understand mfs with any hz higher than 60 and how can they notice the change between 144 to 240

[LesserSphinx]

Originally posted by Mementocity:

I will never understand mfs with any hz higher than 60 and how can they notice the change between 144 to 240

The change betwen 60 and 120 is very noticeable. Haven't got a clue about 240 but I can no longer play games on 60 fps after witnessing the buttery smoothness of 120

[CryonicSuspension]

I never noticed the difference between 240 Hz and 60 Hz. Killing Floor plays the same way on the hardest difficulty. You could give me a 60 Hz monitor and I doubt that I would notice a difference.

When these high Hertz monitors were first released, somebody on HardOCP ( overclocker forum ) said that he thought that it was just a marketing gimmick to get everyone to buy next generation, top end graphics cards. I think he was right.

Darktide looked nice on a high end rig though.

[CryonicSuspension]

Originally posted by Mementocity:

I will never understand mfs with any hz higher than 60 and how can they notice the change between 144 to 240

Most people can't notice a difference between 144 and 240 Hz. Take look at the numbers or a graph. It's negligible. Diminishing returns. I wish that I had bout a 1440p @ 144 than a 1080p @ 240 Hz.

[Snivy]

Originally posted by Mementocity:

I will never understand mfs with any hz higher than 60 and how can they notice the change between 144 to 240

240 is overkill and not worth the money.
However, 144 hertz does have a major impact on how the game feels over 60 hertz.

[Red@ctioN]

I notice the diff big time between 60-144 hz. I've been playing the game for quite sometime. I'm running a 5950 cpu and a 6900XT gpu. My FPS/gameplay studders until I launch the AMD metrics overlay. Then it stays locked at 4k-144 and is buttery smooth.

[Sharunas]

Originally posted by CryonicSuspension:

I never noticed the difference between 240 Hz and 60 Hz. Killing Floor plays the same way on the hardest difficulty. You could give me a 60 Hz monitor and I doubt that I would notice a difference.

When these high Hertz monitors were first released, somebody on HardOCP ( overclocker forum ) said that he thought that it was just a marketing gimmick to get everyone to buy next generation, top end graphics cards. I think he was right.

Darktide looked nice on a high end rig though.

Thats because you probobly didnt enable the refresh rate in your game and was playng at 144hz on monitor BUT 60hz set ingame. if you could set both the game and monitor at max monitors refresh rate you would be blown away by the difference. 60 and 144 look like night and day, after playng 144hz when you try 60hz it feels like playng a slideshow. if you still dont believe it than you need to check if your monitor is set on the correct refresh rate , your graphics card video settings are set to the correct refresh rate , and your windows is set to correct refresh rate. you very well can have bought a 300 dollar monitor that has a high refresh rate but not use it because you were too ignorant to ENABLE the high refresh rate.
anyways my post here was about how max refresh rate that payday 2 allows you to play is 144hz while there are monitors with much higher refresh rates and i explain how to set payday 2 to higher hz than 144. and for thos that say 144 and 240 no difference, the difference is HUGE, i can really see a difference between 144hz and 165 hz. if you say its fake and stuff than you have not seen it with your eyes.

[Sharunas]

Originally posted by Mementocity:

I will never understand mfs with any hz higher than 60 and how can they notice the change between 144 to 240

you will never understand untill you see it for yourself. hell if you dont have a monitor like that just go to a local hardware store and see some monitors plugged in for testing some of them must have a high refresh rate

[VerrucktMedic]

Just for the record, it’s easily disproven that there’s no difference that’s noticeable between 60 FPS and higher frame rates when the target refresh rate for comfortable VR is at lowest 72 Hz and is usually tried for 90 Hz. All to prevent motion sickness.

You can for sure still tell the difference between 60 and 120.

[CryonicSuspension]

Originally posted by Sarunas863:

Originally posted by CryonicSuspension:

I never noticed the difference between 240 Hz and 60 Hz. Killing Floor plays the same way on the hardest difficulty. You could give me a 60 Hz monitor and I doubt that I would notice a difference.

When these high Hertz monitors were first released, somebody on HardOCP ( overclocker forum ) said that he thought that it was just a marketing gimmick to get everyone to buy next generation, top end graphics cards. I think he was right.

Darktide looked nice on a high end rig though.

Thats because you probobly didnt enable the refresh rate in your game and was playng at 144hz on monitor BUT 60hz set ingame. if you could set both the game and monitor at max monitors refresh rate you would be blown away by the difference. 60 and 144 look like night and day, after playng 144hz when you try 60hz it feels like playng a slideshow. if you still dont believe it than you need to check if your monitor is set on the correct refresh rate , your graphics card video settings are set to the correct refresh rate , and your windows is set to correct refresh rate. you very well can have bought a 300 dollar monitor that has a high refresh rate but not use it because you were too ignorant to ENABLE the high refresh rate.
anyways my post here was about how max refresh rate that payday 2 allows you to play is 144hz while there are monitors with much higher refresh rates and i explain how to set payday 2 to higher hz than 144. and for thos that say 144 and 240 no difference, the difference is HUGE, i can really see a difference between 144hz and 165 hz. if you say its fake and stuff than you have not seen it with your eyes.

I think it's cute, that you think that you know more about computers and gaming than someone who: studied Advanced Math, Physics, Chemistry, micro-electronics, computer programming & Psychology; is in the 0.1% of gamers ( played at an esports level ); and has been gaming for 40 years.

Gigabyte Aorus kd25f came out 4 years ago... this information isn't new. I read about it on HardOCP ( overclocker forum )... over 4 years ago.

I didn't build a $6,000 CDN computer for music production & gaming, just to configure it incorrectly. I'm using Gallium as the thermal interface for the CPU. So who's "ignorant" now?

https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/products/26-conductonaut-en

FYI

https://geekrumor.com/1123/how-to-enable-the-fps-counter-in-steam/#:~:text=From%20the%20menu%20bar%2C%20press,left%2C%20or%20bottom-right.

[LesserSphinx]

Originally posted by CryonicSuspension:

I think it's cute, that you think that you know more about computers and gaming than someone who: studied Advanced Math, Physics, Chemistry, micro-electronics, computer programming & Psychology; is in the 0.1% of gamers ( played at an esports level ); and has been gaming for 40 years.

Gigabyte Aorus kd25f came out 4 years ago... this information isn't new. I read about it on HardOCP ( overclocker forum )... over 4 years ago.

I didn't build a $6,000 CDN computer for music production & gaming, just to configure it incorrectly. I'm using Gallium as the thermal interface for the CPU. So who's "ignorant" now?

https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/products/26-conductonaut-en

FYI

https://geekrumor.com/1123/how-to-enable-the-fps-counter-in-steam/#:~:text=From%20the%20menu%20bar%2C%20press,left%2C%20or%20bottom-right.

Bro, nothing of what he said was wrong. If you can't tell the difference between 60 and 120 frames then you haven't changed your monitors refresh rate in settings, or you got some serious eyesight issues. Nobody cares about your 'supposed' education and they aren't relevant anyways. Doubt those classes taught you how to change the refresh rate on your monitor...

[Sharunas]

Originally posted by CryonicSuspension:

Originally posted by Sarunas863:

Thats because you probobly didnt enable the refresh rate in your game and was playng at 144hz on monitor BUT 60hz set ingame. if you could set both the game and monitor at max monitors refresh rate you would be blown away by the difference. 60 and 144 look like night and day, after playng 144hz when you try 60hz it feels like playng a slideshow. if you still dont believe it than you need to check if your monitor is set on the correct refresh rate , your graphics card video settings are set to the correct refresh rate , and your windows is set to correct refresh rate. you very well can have bought a 300 dollar monitor that has a high refresh rate but not use it because you were too ignorant to ENABLE the high refresh rate.
anyways my post here was about how max refresh rate that payday 2 allows you to play is 144hz while there are monitors with much higher refresh rates and i explain how to set payday 2 to higher hz than 144. and for thos that say 144 and 240 no difference, the difference is HUGE, i can really see a difference between 144hz and 165 hz. if you say its fake and stuff than you have not seen it with your eyes.

I think it's cute, that you think that you know more about computers and gaming than someone who: studied Advanced Math, Physics, Chemistry, micro-electronics, computer programming & Psychology; is in the 0.1% of gamers ( played at an esports level ); and has been gaming for 40 years.

Gigabyte Aorus kd25f came out 4 years ago... this information isn't new. I read about it on HardOCP ( overclocker forum )... over 4 years ago.

I didn't build a $6,000 CDN computer for music production & gaming, just to configure it incorrectly. I'm using Gallium as the thermal interface for the CPU. So who's "ignorant" now?

https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/products/26-conductonaut-en

FYI

https://geekrumor.com/1123/how-to-enable-the-fps-counter-in-steam/#:~:text=From%20the%20menu%20bar%2C%20press,left%2C%20or%20bottom-right.

i cant believe what you are saying... by what you say you should really understand computers but the fact that you say that there is NO difference between 60 and 144 hz refresh rate montors means 2 thins : either you missed the part where you have to eneable refresh rate in your monitor, windows display settings, gpu panel settings, or 2 you have a vision of a mole. i mean my computer is worth only a 1000 euros and i didnt study nothing i just finished 12 grade lol but i do understand that you can have a high refresh rate monitor and it can be set to 60hz without you knowing it.
you are strange also what fps counter ? you can have 300 fps and see it at 60hz if monitors refresh rate is set to 60 !!! refresh rate is not fps ! god of gaming at its finest here.

[CryonicSuspension]

Display:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/54yxegf9iayav9yb8w9uu/Display.jpg?dl=0&rlkey=4yuc1x9ujg4qkp56db0l4gnb5


NVIDIA control panel:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ral8tor55rb3t2sa6tj1r/NVIDIA.jpg?rlkey=f2ftf7fe24o39j7o9hhmwd9fw&dl=0

PhysX:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ef0706lxo0s6hwbml854h/PhysX.jpg?rlkey=rye0el7uboibz2kua2rl1uh2h&dl=0

Random video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVwc1D56-pA&t=0s

[Sharunas]

Originally posted by CryonicSuspension:

Display:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/54yxegf9iayav9yb8w9uu/Display.jpg?dl=0&rlkey=4yuc1x9ujg4qkp56db0l4gnb5


NVIDIA control panel:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ral8tor55rb3t2sa6tj1r/NVIDIA.jpg?rlkey=f2ftf7fe24o39j7o9hhmwd9fw&dl=0


Random video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVwc1D56-pA&t=0s

good atleast you have your pc settings right but change it to 60hz and immediatly you will see a difference in the mouse cursor movement, also games have in game refresh rate options and it has to be set there too. but if you cant see difference than you have a faulty monitor 100%

[CryonicSuspension]

Yes... the mouse trails are different... my points was... who cares?

Further, I would rather cap the 240 Hz to 120Hz-150Hz just to greatly reduce the heat generation.

I highly recommend doing a deep dive into the math and graphs involved. Especially the point of diminishing returns.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/learn/60hz-vs-144hz-vs-240hz