PAYDAY 3 is going to flop

[Mhattrix]

It has happened before, with Raid and some The Walking Dead game this company has made, they just keep coming back to payday 2 because it's pretty much their only profitable product

[BitsOfSkin]

...Why do people keep mentioning Raid?
That game's failure is partially on the Publisher (Starbreeze), but mostly it's original Devteam (LionGameLion).

[Kain Mightyena]

Anyone that denies payday 3 will flop is in a severe state of denial and inhaling dangerous amounts of copium to boot. Everything that made pd2 successful payday 3 is doing the exact opposite cause ovk have lost thier ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ minds. Little to no mod support, MTXs, internet connection being mandatory at all times, same dlc model that people have been fed up with for years with pd2, extremely dated visuals, huge lack of content (even less than when pd2 launched) so on and so forth.

[Undefined]

I don't think it'll flop, but I don't think it'll be as good as PD2, either, and the devs will find a way to ruin whatever balance it has at launch because they have to sell DLC.

[Doktor Vic Tim]

I doubt it'd flop, but it'd have to remain active for at least 1 year with DLc for those that bought the Gold edition.

[BitsOfSkin]

Originally posted by Kain Mightyena:

Anyone that denies payday 3 will flop is in a severe state of denial and inhaling dangerous amounts of copium to boot. Everything that made pd2 successful payday 3 is doing the exact opposite cause ovk have lost thier ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ minds. Little to no mod support, MTXs, internet connection being mandatory at all times, same dlc model that people have been fed up with for years with pd2, extremely dated visuals, huge lack of content (even less than when pd2 launched) so on and so forth.

Kain, you're not being realistic about the amount of braindead consumers there are in the (PC) gaming market.
Just look at the amount of drooling going on on Youtube over the game; it'll sell a lot, the sheep are wanting something new and shiny, and this might just hit the spot, considering it's low base price (that's how they get you : either with FOMO or the sunk cost fallacy).
And I'd wager that quite a lot of disgruntled players will buy it anyway as well, same thing that happened with the original MW2 and L4D2.
Hell, especially on console there's a dearth of playable multiplayer games, with RedFall bellyflopping harder than a fat guy in a pool, and the Call Of Duty franchise finding itself in a situation similar to a certain beer brand which lost a LOT of money over controversy...

Whether it will have the staying power of Payday 2?
Now THAT is something I doubt.
I suspect the game will likely release in a rough state (perhaps it will be outright broken even), and whether it'll survive longer than OTWD will depend entirely on the capabilities of the Devteam to fix issues and address design flaws and balance issues.
...And let's face it, we all know how notoriously bad they are at balancing, not to mention re-designing things they did wrong and/or forgot *cough*arm and leg hitboxes*cough*.

[Kceratops]

Kane was right the whole time. It's A GIANT FLOP. Worst release day I've seen for a while.

[BitsOfSkin]

Originally posted by Kceratops:

Kane was right the whole time. It's A GIANT FLOP. Worst release day I've seen for a while.

I had certainly expected things to be rough, but I must admit, Kain ended up calling it to a T.
While I got the buyer numbers right, he was 100% spot on as to the state the game was in when it (pre)launched.

[Nobody]

It's the second day and even the shills have nothing possitive to say other than the stock "gaMePLay iS gOod ThO" and calling you a hater.

[Sunday Driver]

This is even worse than Overkill's The Walking Dead as at least that game was playable on launch, even if it wasn't great. The ratings for PD3 are even lower. The only thing that is saving them from another OTWD is that there's no one else to yank away the licence after such a catastrophic launch like that time. We're at 31% rated now for PD3. Good grief!

I guess the Raid: WW2 is worth mentioning as a flop because it did help drain the company of money. Doesn't matter what dev team did this or that when it's coming out of the publisher purse and that was what sunk after OTWD and why they had to run back to milking PD2 for another couple of years or so

[Sunday Driver]

Originally posted by ℌ𝑎𝑣𝑦𝑘:

It's the second day and even the shills have nothing possitive to say other than the stock "gaMePLay iS gOod ThO" and calling you a hater.

It's astonishing. I hope that these are paid shills, bots or AI each time I see the white knights and shills bark out cope about how the game you can't play is somehow good or raging insults at the people who DARE to rate it down or complain about the state of it (OMG YOU ARE BABY FOR EXPECTING A GAME TO WORK ON LAUNCH DON'T YOU KNOW IT'S 2023??? - I've seen near identical threads and posts to this several times). Sadly I know that there's always a contingent of parasocially mind poisoned, buyers remorse fearing and gamer stockholm syndrome suffering people out there.

The game could format all your drives and be completely non-functional and there would still be SOMEONE defending it.

[CrOnA]

Originally posted by Kain Mightyena:

Anyone that denies payday 3 will flop is in a severe state of denial and inhaling dangerous amounts of copium to boot. Everything that made pd2 successful payday 3 is doing the exact opposite cause ovk have lost thier ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ minds. Little to no mod support, MTXs, internet connection being mandatory at all times, same dlc model that people have been fed up with for years with pd2, extremely dated visuals, huge lack of content (even less than when pd2 launched) so on and so forth.

Debatable pd3 has much better gunplay, mission objectives, and stealth. Once server issues are fixed people will be playing pd3 and as more dlc and updates come out

[Kleiner's final Form]

They should have definitely worked hard on adding a much larger density of content on release. Some effort must be made for your migrating players to not think this is a complete downgrade. Imagine if CS2 were a separate game and didn't keep any of the skins or community maps.

[󠀡󠀡]

it won't flop. If the game gets it's issues sorted out and it will receive new content on a regular basis, it'll be literally impossible to fail considering the game improves a lot, while also needing new content like PD2's launch.

[Kain Mightyena]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

it won't flop. If the game gets it's issues sorted out and it will receive new content on a regular basis, it'll be literally impossible to fail considering the game improves a lot, while also needing new content like PD2's launch.

My brother in christ you are in a severe state of denial. Have you even seen how low the review score is on steam??? Not to mention the amount of people refunding the game is presenting a growing risk of ovk cutting thier losses and abandoning ship. A game sitting at 30% positive review score is almost guaranteed to remain a failure forever. Itll take several miracles beyond fixing the servers to get anyone thats wrote off pd3 to consider coming back.

[General T.Montana Tropic Thunder]

IMHO the game is a 5/10 game, the broken servers made it a 3/10.
Instead of apologizing and offering something "smooth", the buyers are ignored.
Now the buyers will ignore the company in return.

My personal rating of the game on the 20th was 3/10.

The CEO should have played Payday3 once himself over the years, perhaps he did not understand what made the first and second Payday great.
He is fully responsible for the title.