"Kiss the Cheff" - and other time consuming Achievements

[Atomic Waste]

Bonjour!
As some of you may have noticed, we´ve got some new Achivements today.
One of these is called "Kiss the Chef" - Cook 25 bags in the Cook Off Job on the Overkill difficulty or above.

If I´m honnest, I´m not going to do this Achivement. Why should I? It´s neither challenging nor fun. Just time consuming. As many of you probably know we already have a bunch of time consuming Achivements: Dr. Miserable, Farmer Miserable, Euro Bag Simulator. All these take around 1 hour - and now we´ve got another one.

My main problem with Achivements like this is, that they´re actually not Achievements. You don´t achieve anything which is worth to be mentioned. "Reputation Beyond Reproach" is challenging (if done properly, without the Sentry glich). Why don´t you, Overkill, add some more of these?

Challenging, entertaining and rewarding Achievements instead of time conosuming, unnecesary and boring ones. I already see threads complaining in which the OP complains about geting kicked or crashed at the end of such an session.

I don´t know what exactly is meant by the "Rings" in the Achievement "Mellon", but I doubt that it´ll be hard to get. Neither will "Looting in the dark".

So, in a nutshell, please, stop adding time consuming Achievement. They´re unnecesary, boring and in no way challenging. If you don´t want to add challenging Achievements, thats ok, but please stop with these time eating "ideas".

I´m sure someone will tell me that I don´t have to do these kind of Achievements, and thats absolutly correct. Though it bothers me and kinda makes me feel "oh-no-another-hour-I-have-to-waste-for-literally-nothing".

[Salem]

Just gonna repost what I said in the other thread:

Finding and controlling these punks looks fun, and I love treasure hunts so the Birth of Sky achievement is very appealing for me.


But the other ones... Really?

Pacifist all loot run on Murky Station is what should always be a regular run so it's barely a challenge.
Cooking 2 bags on Dockyard is redundant with Breaking Dead and not hard at all if you know the spawn locations for chemicals.
Actually it is RNG again since 2 sets don't always spawn.

And finally 25 bags on Cook Off... ♥♥♥♥ that, I hate Cook Off and we already have too many boring farming achievements (Euro Bag Simulator, mostly Overdrill, Doctor Miserable, Farmer Miserable but at least this one was more entertaining..).
And unlike these farming achievements, it is way harder to prevent dumbass from griefing on Cook Off than on FWB with the code, Big Oil with the engines or Goat Sim with the goats.
Also this one achievement is a big encouragement for Coof Off cheaters.

[Atomic Waste]

Originally posted by Salem:

Stuff

At least I´m not the only one who feels like this. ^^

[Rex]

Its Side-Job stuff, people wanted them...

[Atomic Waste]

Originally posted by Rex:

Its Side-Job stuff, people wanted them...

I can´t imagine anyone really wanted another 1 hour heist. Also I don´t think anyone ´d stay for more than 12 bags, since it the risk / reward ration isn´t balanced since you can "waste" the whole time if one Bulldozer get some lucky shots on you.

[Rex]

Originally posted by Atomic Waste:

Originally posted by Rex:

Its Side-Job stuff, people wanted them...

I can´t imagine anyone really wanted another 1 hour heist. Also I don´t think anyone ´d stay for more than 12 bags, since it the risk / reward ration isn´t balanced since you can "waste" the whole time if one Bulldozer get some lucky shots on you.

I didn't ask for it... just random people calling for more things to do.

[Slowpork]

Pain in the ass achievements are not what I call...what was the word? Hm. Ah, yes. "FUN" mb.

[Rex]

What I wouldve done is add things that you do over time... Like instead of find all the rings find X amount of rings (in any heist)
or instead of 25 bags of meth make it Throw and Catch a bag from the lab to the van without dropping it. (Like that thing with buckets where you can one to the person next to you...)

[Atomic Waste]

Originally posted by Slowpork:

Pain in the ass achievements are not what I call...what was the word? Hm. Ah, yes. "FUN" mb.

Thats exactly the thing. Any 1-hour Achievement is not hard. Not at all. They just eat time. I wouldn´t say anything if they´d be hard, but fact is, they´re not.

Originally posted by Rex:

Originally posted by Atomic Waste:

I can´t imagine anyone really wanted another 1 hour heist. Also I don´t think anyone ´d stay for more than 12 bags, since it the risk / reward ration isn´t balanced since you can "waste" the whole time if one Bulldozer get some lucky shots on you.

I didn't ask for it... just random people calling for more things to do.

Even if some guys wanted it, I actually expect Overkill for thinking before they add new Achivements. I´d just assume they woudn´t spend 1 hour for 1 Achievement if they´d be average player.

Edit:

Originally posted by Rex:

What I wouldve done is add things that you do over time... Like instead of find all the rings find X amount of rings (in any heist)
or instead of 25 bags of meth make it Throw and Catch a bag from the lab to the van without dropping it. (Like that thing with buckets where you can one to the person next to you...)

This is another "ok" Achievemnt. Not time consuming and absolutly ok. I really don´t understand why they don´t Achievemnts like this.

[Батька]

One word: haxs

















don`t use them

[Purple Tentacle]

dont do them then, people who like them will do it people who dont wont

shocking i know

[Salem]

Well, anyway I already can see people unwillingly (or not) unlocking the Cook Off achievement by joining a hacked lobby.

[Atomic Waste]

Originally posted by Purple Tentacle:

dont do them then, people who like them will do it people who dont wont

shocking i know

I knew someone will sasy this. You´re absolutly right. Nothing to doubt about it. It just annoys me and kinda makes me feel uncomfortable.

Originally posted by Salem:

Well, anyway I already can see people unwillingly (or not) unlocking the Cook Off achievement by joining a hacked lobby.

Think so too. I don´t think that Overkill really want this.

[Pawnstar]

Cash is King.

If you are not doing it for the money, you are playing this game wrong.

[Atomic Waste]

Originally posted by 伝説の弾幕 Mobius:

Cash is King.

If you are not doing it for the money, you are playing this game wrong.

If I´d need money, I´d farm other heists and defenetly not go for 25 bags. The risk to loose everything through one Bulldozer charge or a few Cloacker is just too high.
Since I don´t need money, and probably many others don´t need it either, I just do Achievements for themselfe. Spending 1 hour on a single heist isn´t what I´d like to do in my freetime. But I start to repeat myself, so... .

[Salem]

Welp, good luck finding all the rings. It is really fun to do though.

Just an example of why it is fun:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=670058232