Question about Nightclub DW

[20 fps]

Hi.
Is there a way to disable the cameras on Nightclub, especially on deathwish?
It's really easy to stealth this heist without them, not so much when they're here.

[Brovah]

There is no camera room you have to smash all of them.

[Vercci ]

If you're trying to stealth without cameras, you'll have to save scum basically. Spawn in, go up to the nightclub and check the wall to the right, facing the street. If cameras are in there, you'll see a Gensec sign, otherwise it'll be clear.



Nightclub is a good example of Camera Loop being very useful if you're trying to stealth with cameras.

Originally posted by Brovah:

There is no camera room you have to smash all of them.

Which you can't do on DW, like OP asked about.

[Demb]

Originally posted by Brovah:

There is no camera room you have to smash all of them.

Yep, smashing titan cameras will definitely work.

[puzzlefox]

On DW sometimes cams spawn, sometimes they don't. You can tell whether or not there will be cameras inside if there is a gensec sticker on the outside of the building on the wall just right of the bouncer. When I do NC on DW, I just restart until the sticker isn't there (and there are no cams)

I've also tried taking the whole club WITH cameras, ECM rush and it seems that even if you clear out all bodies in fromt of cams, they still go off.. it's best just to restart until they're not there.

[Nicky C]

I'm really surprised that Deathwish nightclub has a chance for no cameras. I always assume on deathwish that anything that can go wrong, will go wrong, on top of the already very hard difficulty.

[20 fps]

Originally posted by puzzlefox:

On DW sometimes cams spawn, sometimes they don't. You can tell whether or not there will be cameras inside if there is a gensec sticker on the outside of the building on the wall just right of the bouncer. When I do NC on DW, I just restart until the sticker isn't there (and there are no cams)

I've also tried taking the whole club WITH cameras, ECM rush and it seems that even if you clear out all bodies in fromt of cams, they still go off.. it's best just to restart until they're not there.

Yeah, that's what I usually do too.
RNG is awesome.

[puzzlefox]

lol NC doesn't pay enough xp or $$ to be worht the time and effort to *actually* stealth it. I've done it both ways and no cams/control club is by far the fastest and easiest way.. I just walk to teh back, open the door elading to the managers office, ECM down and go. I open that door first so the upstairs peeps will be controllable. Sometimes they run into areas where even nades cannot get them.

[Cowvaca]

I solo'd this recently. I didn't know about a non-camera version of the map, so I stealthed until the van showed up, then went loud for my escape:

Purchase Expert Driver and Loot Truck

I simply avoided mobs through the kitchen, out the back door through the poker room, picked the back door into the "storage room", ECM'd the basement door and the door to the 'VIP office' (where the loot truck is) then silent drilled the safe in the basement. Fortunately for me, the cash was in the basement. I threw two bags into the loot truck, waited for the van to arrive, then ran out the front door. With a low enough detection, I was able to ECM doors without being noticed by the cameras.

[grishenko [NOR]]

It is quite easy to stealth night club without doing crowd control. Ecm or keycard the door to the manager office, walk up stairs, kill manager if he is there, drill the safe, throw bags out to your loot truck, wait, leave.

[puzzlefox]

Originally posted by grishenko:

It is quite easy to stealth night club without doing crowd control. Ecm or keycard the door to the manager office, walk up stairs, kill manager if he is there, drill the safe, throw bags out to your loot truck, wait, leave.

Lots of RNG luck required there. When solo, if there are 10 mobsters up there, autofail. If the safe contains coke, crap. If there is no safe up there at all, crap. When drilling if a guard walks across the walkway on the other side of the club, he WILL see the drill. Not hear, SEE. I've only had the numbers work in my favor a couple times. I've successfully solo'd it ONCE after multiple attempts with bad RNG. I hate dw NC... I hate NC period. :(

[grishenko [NOR]]

Originally posted by puzzlefox:

Originally posted by grishenko:

It is quite easy to stealth night club without doing crowd control. Ecm or keycard the door to the manager office, walk up stairs, kill manager if he is there, drill the safe, throw bags out to your loot truck, wait, leave.

Lots of RNG luck required there. When solo, if there are 10 mobsters up there, autofail. If the safe contains coke, crap. If there is no safe up there at all, crap. When drilling if a guard walks across the walkway on the other side of the club, he WILL see the drill. Not hear, SEE. I've only had the numbers work in my favor a couple times. I've successfully solo'd it ONCE after multiple attempts with bad RNG. I hate dw NC... I hate NC period. :(

Buy Bad Music. If you get stationary guards in the kitchen walk through the poker room. I experienced to get coke up there, then it was in the basement which was just as easy. Dont claim I am an expert though, it doesnt pay enough to play, but if I have ++ on it I do it on DW (and not loud on normal just go get it out of the way as I do those stupid transport missions :-)

[SgtAvalanche]

Camera Loop, ECM, or just avoid it

[Gunsmith Noob]

Originally posted by GRiLL$ | The Eldermon:

Originally posted by Brovah:

There is no camera room you have to smash all of them.

Yep, smashing titan cameras will definitely work.

Chuck Norris could

[inspector-81]

Nightclub was the first difficult job I learned to solo stealth, and I really enjoyed running. It felt like a dance. But the XP and cash aren't there for the effort required.

I kind of wish the Deathwish update had come out earlier when I had been running Nightclub a couple times a day, because I would have slipped into that pretty easily. It was weird going back to drilling safes and luring mobsters after I had safe cracking for so long.

You can do the job with cameras, but you have to be lucky with camera placement, or have camera loop.

Loot drop truck will save you a lot of headaches.

Bad Music asset helps for drilling upstairs, but yeah, bad luck and somebody will spot the drill across the room. Probably 50/50 here, unless you lure a lot of guards some place secluded and kill them.

My usual run worked like this:

Enter club, immediately go upstairs and look across the balcony into the manager's office. Look for the safe. Look for manager, his date, guards, etc. I can't kill 10 guards up there with out alerting the whole map. Maybe someone else can? If they are up there, better hope the cash isn't.

Take note if there is a secondary office upstairs.

Get into the back room with the door to the basement. If camera placement isn't too bad (or better yet, it's not DW and you can break them), you can kill whoever you have to kill. If there is a door to the basement, that's the first door I open.

If there is a safe down there, put a loud drill on it, and lure guards down and kill them. Shotgun the bodies as far as you can to the other side of the room. If you are lucky you can take a big chunk of the roaming guards this way, and you are less likely to have one spot your drill in the manager's office. No safe? Sucks dude.

If there isn't a basement, there is a safe in the manager's office, and there isn't 10 guards in there, the manager's office is my next target. Subdue whoever is in the room. If there is a safe, get drilling, and hope this has the cash. Babysit drill, kill guards that wander upstairs.

If I still haven't found the cash, the alternate manager's office is my last target, because it's the riskiest to get in and out of. Go through the poker room. If I've used all my ECMs, I hope I've gotten a keycard off a gangster or the guy in the suit who carries one. If I have to drill that door, things are desperate. Find a place where you can subdue civies/gangsters off camera, put on a drill. I imagine you can lure guards to that room with a loud drill on the safe in there. But since it's the last room I ever check, I haven't tried. For a two person team, it might be a good idea to open that door from upstairs instead of the kitchen, put a drill on a safe if there is one, and lure guards there before trying the manager's office.

[SapientAsh]

Originally posted by ;35221584738433210:

Originally posted by Brovah:

There is no camera room you have to smash all of them.

Yep, smashing titan cameras will definitely work.

xept on DW you have invincible cameras