Best Build for Lion's Roar?

[Tommy]

pls help

[Akutare]

It depends on what deck you want to run alongside of it and what difficulty you plan on playing, unless you don't have any preferences to what deck you run.

[Tommy]

just a good build for ds

[Akutare]

Originally posted by Tommy:

just a good build for ds

You probably can't go too wrong with Suit Anarchist with Berserker and Frenzy then as a start, lower your HP enough and the damage of the Lion's Roar would be high enough to one shot light units on headshots and two shot heavy units to the head as well.

Go the mid Enforcer tree so you can grab Bullseye basic for more armor gating, get partner in crime aced so you can have Jokers on top of getting bonus HP converted into armor using Anarchist's deck effect. With a convert, this should make your armor strong enough to tank 2 shots before breaking if it's full, you can also choose Iron Man basic instead if you'd prefer more consistency, but that's your preference.

After that, you can Ace Steady Grip for some stats if you'd like, your choice of either Fully Loaded Aced, Inspire Aced, or even lean heavy into damage by going into crits if you would prefer, but this is where the build starts getting heavily into what you prefer having, but on DS you'd probably be better off getting Inspire.

[Camera Man]

Again, builds depends on what decks your running. A few standards like damage skills like Crits, Berserker, QOL like Body Expertise and so on.

You could just run Anarchist with the most DPS potential out of any deck, or just have something more passive like Armor, Muscle and so on. Your deck can easily change what you bring.

Originally posted by Akutare:

Originally posted by Tommy:

just a good build for ds

You probably can't go too wrong with Suit Anarchist with Berserker and Frenzy then as a start, lower your HP enough and the damage of the Lion's Roar would be high enough to one shot light units on headshots and two shot heavy units to the head as well.

Go the Enforcer tree so you can grab Bullseye basic for more armor gating, get partner in crime aced so you can have Jokers on top of getting bonus HP converted into armor using Anarchist's deck effect. With a convert, this should make your armor strong enough to tank 2 shots before breaking if it's full, you can also choose Iron Man basic instead if you'd prefer more consistency, but that's your preference.

After that, you can Ace Steady Grip for some stats if you'd like, your choice of either Fully Loaded Aced, Inspire Aced, or even lean heavy into damage by going into crits if you would prefer, but this is where the build starts getting heavily into what you prefer having, but on DS you'd probably be better off getting Inspire.

Anarchist is fine and considered a top tier deck with quite good survivability awhile being cheap, but rewards armor gating by being aggressive by doing any damage.

Bullseye Basic i believe is good for 3 hit cycle, but I can't say for certain since as far as I know there will be something else active over it. Bullseye Aced does help the deck segment recovery though.

Lion's roar stats are really good except for reload speed. Lock n Load Aced being a good option or Bloodthirst Aced to anyone who uses melees. Fully Loaded isn't exactly the best skill when you could have a backup secondary to recover your ammo and investing into 2 deployables at once eats your points alot. Inspire Aced is fine but can sometimes be too expensive on certain builds.

[Akutare]

Originally posted by Camera Man:

Anarchist is fine and considered a top tier deck with quite good survivability awhile being cheap, but rewards armor gating by being aggressive by doing any damage.

Bullseye Basic i believe is good for 3 hit cycle, but I can't say for certain since as far as I know there will be something else active over it. Bullseye Aced does help the deck segment recovery though.

Lion's roar stats are really good except for reload speed. Lock n Load Aced being a good option or Bloodthirst Aced to anyone who uses melees. Fully Loaded isn't exactly the best skill when you could have a backup secondary to recover your ammo and investing into 2 deployables at once eats your points alot. Inspire Aced is fine but can sometimes be too expensive on certain builds.

I definitely didn't mean all of them at once, that would be way too expensive, I more meant it's just preference if you'd rather have Inspire aced or FL aced, but Inspire definitely has a bit more priority unless it's a niche situation like you're playing with Bots and not players. There was also a decent surplus of points I didn't go over so getting Lock and Loaded aced along with Surefire would be a good boost to the Lion's Roar if you're already acing Steady Grip. If you also feel like you don't do enough damage you can always go for crits to massively bolster your damage output and also grab Body Expertise for a few more points, but I don't know if you'd have enough to have all of those at the same time.

[ischamaru]

Swap this ♥♥♥♥ with big reload time at ak17.

[B〄F Altonator]

Originally posted by Akutare:

Originally posted by Tommy:

just a good build for ds

You probably can't go too wrong with Suit Anarchist with Berserker and Frenzy then as a start, lower your HP enough and the damage of the Lion's Roar would be high enough to one shot light units on headshots and two shot heavy units to the head as well.

Go the mid Enforcer tree so you can grab Bullseye basic for more armor gating, get partner in crime aced so you can have Jokers on top of getting bonus HP converted into armor using Anarchist's deck effect. With a convert, this should make your armor strong enough to tank 2 shots before breaking if it's full, you can also choose Iron Man basic instead if you'd prefer more consistency, but that's your preference.

After that, you can Ace Steady Grip for some stats if you'd like, your choice of either Fully Loaded Aced, Inspire Aced, or even lean heavy into damage by going into crits if you would prefer, but this is where the build starts getting heavily into what you prefer having, but on DS you'd probably be better off getting Inspire.

Iron man alone can’t push numbers high enough for the suit to reach 2 shot protection. You would need frenzy as well on top of that.
On the other hand if you want a cheaper way to get 2 shot protection you can definitely use the light ballistic vest with die hard ace and iron man. Costs much less points and focusses the enforcer tree alone meaning points can be invested into other things.

Edit: Added a table for comparison.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2833682899&fileuploadsuccess=1

[Camera Man]

Originally posted by Akutare:

I definitely didn't mean all of them at once, that would be way too expensive, I more meant it's just preference if you'd rather have Inspire aced or FL aced, but Inspire definitely has a bit more priority unless it's a niche situation like you're playing with Bots and not players. There was also a decent surplus of points I didn't go over so getting Lock and Loaded aced along with Surefire would be a good boost to the Lion's Roar if you're already acing Steady Grip. If you also feel like you don't do enough damage you can always go for crits to massively bolster your damage output and also grab Body Expertise for a few more points, but I don't know if you'd have enough to have all of those at the same time.

https://pd2builder.netlify.app/?s=583810004h10-6V00105i0001Ba
Probably something I personally wouldn't mind running and with quite abit of DPS going on though I'm not a full time anarchist player. This kind of build is possible since DPS is Anarchist main focus most of the time.

[=TBM= [PHE$] cooper]

Everyone likes to play it a bit different. And everybody should. Play it like it fits your playstyle.

In generell:
- Take crits, berserker und BE. That works for all AR's.

After these 3 skills every player has another opinion what to take with the leftover points.

An easy build do handle and to get everything done is in my opinion this one:
https://pd2builder.netlify.app/?s=1G0010008110-53U0034dg100h58

edit: Anarchist perk deck with suit. As secondary weapon the 5/7 pistol.
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Even if I'm basically of the opinion that everyone should do what ever they want with the leftover skill points, I would chalk up a "mistake" in this build:

Originally posted by Camera Man:

https://pd2builder.netlify.app/?s=583810004h10-6V00105i0001Ba

When playing with the anarchist perk deck, you should allways take the 'Bullseye basic' skill.
Completely forgoing this skill significantly reduces armor regeneration.

[Tommy]

So anarchist with 5/7 pistol?

[Ultrabeat ft Riva ft J.C.A.]

Stay away from anarchist, stoic is 100x better than anarchist. Most people say leech is op but i don't know about that perk.

You need crit skill for melting dozers, crit skill is very good synergy with full auto weapons. Use 5/7 ap pistol for shields. You need low blow aced and <25% detection (22% or 23%).

[Mr. Mystery]

Originally posted by Ultrabeat:

Stay away from anarchist, stoic is 100x better than anarchist. Most people say leech is op but i don't know about that perk.

You need crit skill for melting dozers, crit skill is very good synergy with full auto weapons. Use 5/7 ap pistol for shields. You need low blow aced and <25% detection (22% or 23%).

My Brother in Christ, Anar can use Zerk AND Crits.
Anar if loving Huge Damage, Stoic for survival and only Crits.
And even then Leech better than both for tanking/gating. (Can only use crits still but eh, sometimes critically ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all over the cops is good enough)

[Ultrabeat ft Riva ft J.C.A.]

Originally posted by Mr. Mystery:

Originally posted by Ultrabeat:

Stay away from anarchist, stoic is 100x better than anarchist. Most people say leech is op but i don't know about that perk.

You need crit skill for melting dozers, crit skill is very good synergy with full auto weapons. Use 5/7 ap pistol for shields. You need low blow aced and <25% detection (22% or 23%).

My Brother in Christ, Anar can use Zerk AND Crits.
Anar if loving Huge Damage, Stoic for survival and only Crits.
And even then Leech better than both for tanking/gating. (Can only use crits still but eh, sometimes critically ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all over the cops is good enough)

I don't like anarchist's survivalibity, stoic is better even with light ballistic vest. Also only crit damage is enough for ds. I did all dsod with my duo (2 players, 2 ai). My build is stoic with light vest, crit damage, primary sniper and secondary smg.

for holdout, if you like huge damage with stoic, overkill aced + body expertise basic + low blow is better than anarchist's any berserker combination.

[The man, the myth, the leg]

anarchist can run zerk and the 70-80 dmg class really benefits from a good zerk(altough armorer is IMO better for generel survivability, but does need armor)
my suggestion would be suppresor skills(for 100/100), BEA and zerk
after a down you should be good to one headshot lights
as for secondary 5/7, compact 40, sniper would all be viable options, just get something to deal with shields

altough for this you could also swap Lroar for a uar and i think also ak5 since they get speedpulls

[SomebadPoison]

gotta go with anarchist