Is it possible to clear Breakin' Feds while killing Commissioner Garrett?

[Panc]

I know that after killing Commissioner Garrett game enters 10 seconds of point of no return and the heist becomes pretty much impossible to complete as the exit is far away from where Garrett is. However, what if you've manipulated the game so you can escape as soon as Garrett dies, like for example, using explosive C4 mode and waiting for Garrett to pass by, or making other player kill Garrett and leave heist, while you wait on the exit etc.

I mean, it sounds completely possible but game really doesn't want you to kill Garrett for the story sake, so I'm a bit curious whether the game allows that or not.

[Yamaha]

I'm not entirely sure, but my guess is the game will softlock you in and prevent you from finishing the heist if Garrett is killed.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Yamaha:

I'm not entirely sure, but my guess is the game will softlock you in and prevent you from finishing the heist if Garrett is killed.

That would be an extreme circumstance, chances are the game will just go "point of no return" on garrett's death.

[Sunday Driver]

IIRC you can use a trip mine to do it but obviously needs to be done so it happens at the last moment when you're about to exist anyway. I am sure I remember some clever players did this when it came out.

[Higf9]

What if one person stand near the esc and the other person kill garrett and save quit will that work ?

[Z3r0_]

Hmm...I have no idea. Somebody should test this.

That somebody won't be me though. I LOATHE this heist. I only ever beat it because somebody I know was willing to help me through it.

[aabicus]

One player killing Garrett and quitting the heist is the only way I can think of. There's no way to self-kill yourself without making too much noise and causing the alarm to go "point of no return" before they bleedout

[Captain Toof]

You probably missed the fact that Locke(the smelly fish) said you need Garrett later. Your question is invalid.

[Panc]

Originally posted by Captain Toof:

You probably missed the fact that Locke(the smelly fish) said you need Garrett later. Your question is invalid.

Yes, like I've said, I know that game doesn't want you killing Garrett, because story-wise he isn't supposed to die there and it's made so that you are likely to fail the heist by giving player only 10 seconds of Point of No Return after killing Garrett.

My point is that, what if you killed Garrett and escaped with-in 10 seconds by playing the heist in a way that you aren't supposed to? I know it's pointless and makes the heist more difficult, but I'm just curious if that's possible or not.

[Panc]

Originally posted by aabicus:

One player killing Garrett and quitting the heist is the only way I can think of. There's no way to self-kill yourself without making too much noise and causing the alarm to go "point of no return" before they bleedout

That might be the easiest way to do it, but I think it could be done if you put C4 on explosive mode, and time it right so Garrett gets killed by C4 after you reached the exit.

Kill-Garrett run, might be fun challenge to do for masochistic people

[Panc]

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

Originally posted by Yamaha:

I'm not entirely sure, but my guess is the game will softlock you in and prevent you from finishing the heist if Garrett is killed.

That would be an extreme circumstance, chances are the game will just go "point of no return" on garrett's death.

Yeah I can confirm that game goes into "point of no return" after killing Garrett, and the game gives you only 10 seconds,which is obviously impossible to escape if you are playing it normally, but might be possible to do if you played the heist in a way you're not supposed to.

However there is a chance that escape point disappears when killing Garrett or heist fails even if you escape, if the game really doesn't want you killing Garrett like Yamaha said. As much as I want to confirm/bust this myth, I can't because I'm terrible at stealth.

[AAA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg4Nb4S5cI4

[Panc]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it is possible, that is hilarious. Thanks for the confirmation

[Dartan]

Originally posted by BAMBOO Zle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg4Nb4S5cI4

wish there achievement for that LOL

[Yamaha]

I'm glad i was wrong, that was enjoyable to watch.

[Z3r0_]

Originally posted by Captain Toof:

You probably missed the fact that Locke(the smelly fish) said you need Garrett later. Your question is invalid.

Which was a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lie, because Garret doesn't even get mentioned ever again in the subsequent heists, and becomes completely irrelevant to the plot thereafter (there's a reason why Murkywater takes over as the main threat from that point onward). That (and making it stealth-mandatory to begin with) was just an excuse to throw the stealth purists a bone and give them another stealth-only heist that they'd been chomping at the bit for for a long time. Don't get me wrong, as clunky as Payday 2's stealth mechanics are, it has its appeal, I just think that Breakin' Feds isn't one of the better stealth heists in the game (Yacht Heist, Election Day, and Shadow Raid are examples of fairly well-made stealth heists); I'd rank it at the third worst stealth heist in the game in fact, above only Framing Frame and Car Shop.

Doesn't help that one of the random escapes you can get alerts everybody anyway, DEFEATING THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF MAINTAINING STEALTH IN THE FIRST PLACE.