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Rayzer471 Apr 7, 2021 @ 6:26am
Bootleg assault rifle need a buff
It's usage is rather low, I have never seen it in a lobby especially in OD. On lower difficulty, I don't know but why anyone would play with this gun while at the same time LMGs do much better both in term of damage and firerate?
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>//The_FALCON Apr 7, 2021 @ 7:10am 
bruh. it doesn't need a buff. it's an assault rifle that traded accuracy for a bigger mag.

if you want an automatic with a bigger mag, use LMGs. if you want an accurate weapon, use anything else. if it got buffed it would literally be the only thing anyone would use
Rayzer471 Apr 7, 2021 @ 7:21am 
Originally posted by >//The_FALCONTnY:
bruh. it doesn't need a buff. it's an assault rifle that traded accuracy for a bigger mag.

if you want an automatic with a bigger mag, use LMGs. if you want an accurate weapon, use anything else. if it got buffed it would literally be the only thing anyone would use
So what's the point of the bootleg if LMGs have bigger mag considering that magazine size is the only positive point of the bootleg? As you said "if you want something in particular use something else" because bootleg has no advantage in a particular point compared to other weapons. Do you want a big magazine? pick a LMG since it has 1: higher damage 2: higher magazine 3: higher accuracy 4: even lower reload time. Do you want better damage? every other weapons due to all of them having better damages Do you want accuracy? DMR, etc... etc...
Neo Apr 7, 2021 @ 8:48am 
Originally posted by Rayzer471:
Originally posted by >//The_FALCONTnY:
bruh. it doesn't need a buff. it's an assault rifle that traded accuracy for a bigger mag.

if you want an automatic with a bigger mag, use LMGs. if you want an accurate weapon, use anything else. if it got buffed it would literally be the only thing anyone would use
So what's the point of the bootleg if LMGs have bigger mag considering that magazine size is the only positive point of the bootleg? As you said "if you want something in particular use something else" because bootleg has no advantage in a particular point compared to other weapons. Do you want a big magazine? pick a LMG since it has 1: higher damage 2: higher magazine 3: higher accuracy 4: even lower reload time. Do you want better damage? every other weapons due to all of them having better damages Do you want accuracy? DMR, etc... etc...
Run Single Fire Marksman tree Bootleg.

In all seriousness, I used to have a blast on DW and old OD with it. Just find something you prefer. With enough determination, you can make anything work.
Mosey Apr 7, 2021 @ 9:45am 
Bootleg rifle isn't great, but at the same time I can think of even worse weapons I'd be even less likely to use.

Not sure why this one in particular needs any buffs. Works fine, even if it's not a great pick.

Frenzy/berserker builds are basically the key to using any of the generally bad guns. I think it's stupid that there's a skill tree that makes half the guns relevant, but there you have it.
M0D Apr 10, 2021 @ 8:19pm 
I think that a little RoF Buff and maybe a Damage buff would make it much better to use.
allowing the Bootleg to have a normal magazine that gives it a massive acc/stab buff along with a different barrel that pushes it into the 64 damage tier (while also, of course, nerfing acc/stab again) would make it actually decent.

VerrucktMedic Apr 11, 2021 @ 7:45pm 
Originally posted by naii_:
allowing the Bootleg to have a normal magazine that gives it a massive acc/stab buff along with a different barrel that pushes it into the 64 damage tier (while also, of course, nerfing acc/stab again) would make it actually decent.
I mean, that would just make it [any other ~60 damage assault rifle]

I think the gun should be focused on staying with the gimmick it has. But it may need some kind of tuning to be a true LMG/AR middle ground.
TioRast Apr 12, 2021 @ 8:16am 
Buff Acc/stab, the main ploblem of this gun, not only is a peashooter is you cant hit far targets like the LMG/Assault already does even worse your secondary gun can and your primary sucks on damage and dps for far (try to kill two sniper with even body expertice and low acc on in and see if you can actually hit them with 50- of average)
Terminator01 Apr 13, 2021 @ 1:02am 
Originally posted by Rayzer471:
Originally posted by >//The_FALCONTnY:
bruh. it doesn't need a buff. it's an assault rifle that traded accuracy for a bigger mag.

if you want an automatic with a bigger mag, use LMGs. if you want an accurate weapon, use anything else. if it got buffed it would literally be the only thing anyone would use
So what's the point of the bootleg if LMGs have bigger mag considering that magazine size is the only positive point of the bootleg? As you said "if you want something in particular use something else" because bootleg has no advantage in a particular point compared to other weapons. Do you want a big magazine? pick a LMG since it has 1: higher damage 2: higher magazine 3: higher accuracy 4: even lower reload time. Do you want better damage? every other weapons due to all of them having better damages Do you want accuracy? DMR, etc... etc...


When the M416 was introduced, LMGs weren´t overpowered as they are today. That happened much later.

So the only logical consequence should be to nerf LMGs back to it´s old stats.
Last edited by Terminator01; Apr 13, 2021 @ 1:02am
Originally posted by naii_:
allowing the Bootleg to have a normal magazine that gives it a massive acc/stab buff along with a different barrel that pushes it into the 64 damage tier (while also, of course, nerfing acc/stab again) would make it actually decent.
I did it https://modworkshop.net/mod/31764
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Date Posted: Apr 7, 2021 @ 6:26am
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