How are GTA Online heists compared to Payday 2 Heists?

[rock30408]

When I say GTA Online heists, I don't mean all of GTA Online. I mean only the heists, such as the Casino Heist and the Doomsday Heist.

[Modest Mauser]

Why are you asking about GTA heists here? Ask at the GTA forum.

[Keebler Elf]

I find payday heists to be way more fun, in general they are less glitchy, more fun to play, and way more fun to replay. You also dont have to spend time doing prep jobs that can be infuriating like in GTA, also the difficulty settings in payday are super fun finally beating a heist on DSOD (the hardest difficulty in payday 2) feels way more gratifying than gta at least in my opinion

[José Emmanuel Rodríguez]

i mean, theyre totally different, maybe stealth is a "bit" similiar, but other than that, its pretty much absolutely different in most aspects

[rock30408]

Publicado originalmente por Modest Mauser:

Why are you asking about GTA heists here? Ask at the GTA forum.

By that same logic, in a GTA Online forum...

Publicado originalmente por Modest Mauser:

Why are you asking about Payday 2 heists here? Ask at the Payday 2 forum.

[rock30408]

Publicado originalmente por Keebler Elf:

I find payday heists to be way more fun, in general they are less glitchy, more fun to play, and way more fun to replay. You also dont have to spend time doing prep jobs that can be infuriating like in GTA, also the difficulty settings in payday are super fun finally beating a heist on DSOD (the hardest difficulty in payday 2) feels way more gratifying than gta at least in my opinion

Thanks for the answer! I'll have to consider getting the game now.

[rock30408]

Publicado originalmente por Your nearest Toyota dealer:

i mean, theyre totally different, maybe stealth is a "bit" similiar, but other than that, its pretty much absolutely different in most aspects

If you don't mind me asking, how are they different?

[Driftkel]

I don't have gta v and I personally have never played it, so I can't speak about the heists there. And I have no plans in getting that due to modders there and tryhards being toxic to new players based on videos that I watched on yt.

As for payday 2 here, you have a good mix of heists that can be done loud only, stealth possible, or stealth only.

[Sunday Driver]

I've played both and they're completely different in feel and execution. In large part due to GTAV being designed around third person and console first and foremost and car/vehicle driving was always GTA's focus, which is why GTAV's heists tend to feature the vehicle chases and escapes or simply getting from point A to point B in them so much. PD2, simplified, is about FPS action and stealth. The vehicle elements are very minor. In turn the indoor parts of GTAV were frankly always crude feeling in the singleplayer or multiplayer, just as they were in earlier entries. This is why GTA spends so much time outside, while PD2 has a lot of the game indoors. Gunplay in GTAV is crude and simplistic arcade affair designed for a joypad, not much different from previous entries. PD2's, for any faults and complaints aired here, is far better, as you'd expect of a FPS game.

GTAV is about big open worlds so it involves the standard sandbox downsides of having things spread out thin across a big area full of nothing or fake buildings and those sets have to be used for multiple things and the nature of it also means a lot of busywork driving to and from and setting up things before you get in the action. PD2 cuts out all the crap and has you THERE right as the heist starts. It's assumed all the planning was done and everyone has eaten, got the outfit they wanted to wear, remembered to drive to the scene on time for work and made poo poo and pee pee beforehand so you can get right into the action with no time wasted. This is one of the biggest and best improvements PD:TH and PD2 made over other games that had "heisting elements". PD:TH/PD2 has just the right amount of pre-planning in your own time without actually WASTING your time with filler that other games do (most notoriously the plague of "sandbox games" that sprung up over the years following the same formula).

PD2 has countless builds, skill combinations and options as well as significant RNG and all of this can have a large impact on the game and how you can play and play successfully. The actions is different, the stealth is different, the design of the heists and how the developers think about design feels different, the flow of the game is different, rewards and options for the player are different.

They are so different I'd say you would be quicker looking at what IS similar rather than what is different. They are only the most superficially similar in that both have heists, but other games have heists as a theme too and they aren't really the same as PD2 either.

[Sunday Driver]

Publicado originalmente por Armisael:

I don't have gta v and I personally have never played it, so I can't speak about the heists there. And I have no plans in getting that due to modders there and tryhards being toxic to new players based on videos that I watched on yt.

As for payday 2 here, you have a good mix of heists that can be done loud only, stealth possible, or stealth only.

Nothing like seeing some poor newb get banned because a troll with some hacks spawns money trap and then gets other people banned for having hacked money while they run off and know how to cover their tracks or launder it and laugh at another person's account being screwed. It's great fun with a good crew mate or a trusted group but just a cluster ♥♥♥♥ with randoms. Way worse than any problems I've seen with PD2 over the years. The Shark Card nonsense and then pricing things higher to make you either grind half your life away miserably or give in and pay 2 win instead was utter BS and explains why some people just migrated to private or modded servers instead. There's the real kicker, that the developers of GTAV are basically trolling their own customers with the grinding requirements just to punish them enough that they'll give in and pay the ransom to get to the next piece of content instead of doing the pointless make work in their limited free time.

Compare it to how Overkill has run PD2 and it is night and day difference with Overkill being far more considerate to players/customers and this continues with their most recent updates and additions that add free content to all, even those with the free or one dollar base game and the infamy system that they made sure for the new customers was even easier to access and follow or could be ignored faster if you just want the skill points and don't care about cosmetics. You can buy the base game for one dollar on sale and jump into a hosted game of a friend of the latest DLC heist and be heisting within minutes and see anything you like. You'll get your ass kicked probably but it is a fair reason to lose in the game and you're not artificially locked out or stuck behind artificially high grind just to make you pay up REAL MONEY to get your next skill point or gun or Safehouse upgrade or whatever in PD2.

Not that you can even play with clearly non-cheating mods safely either in the main servers as I've seen disasters happen to people doing that, so if you mod, best just play alternative servers.

EDIT: I think this also makes me think again of how the sandbox nature of GTAV leads to a less detailed world and events that rely on those big open spaces, while PD2 has a more detailed and hand crafted feel to it. Everything in the heist is there for that heist specifically, even if it is just set dressing. GTAV just can't wait to find an excuse to get you OUTSIDE where the game and engine works best. PD2 is fine with you being inside or outside and most of the peak parts of heists (mostly from movies which PD2 is inspired by) are going to involve indoors anyway, for obvious realistic reasons but also because it works well for FPS play, exploration and movements.

PD2 feels more like a heist movie, which it is not shy about showing was its inspiration from the start, and when the game is all going right you really feel like you're in one. GTAV still feels like an arcade console game with its roots in that original GTA game long ago. It wasn't built to be a heisting game and its roots and inspiration were never heisting movies.

[Driftkel]

That's a damn shame. I remember that I had a really bad pc and wanted gta v to try and optimize the game to make it at least playable, even if performances were not the best. Now that I have a good PC already, gta v is an easy skip for me based on also the state of what it is in as you summed it up perfectly.

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[sigma sam]

This game has a pretty high difficulty curve but a pretty medium learning curve
Higher difficultes are just tankier enemies who require to be headshotted or else take like 20 bullets from a standard assault rifle, also has meta dlc weapons but most have a freebie variant which is usually just as good

Gta as far as i know has one shot headshots on most enemies and a pretty bad torso/limb damage for weapons,and has also meta weapons locked behind very pricy walls that most likely will have you grind a few hours for
Also difficulty is pretty much just amount of screw ups you can fit in but atleast is a little more realistic rather than payday 2 illogical balancing and weird skill points

[Nick S | Furry (FAF)]

One thing I have noticed a difference between is sometimes the payout. Also it is a lot eiaser to do Payday 2 Hiest because almost every hiest except the newest one requiers more than 1 real player on GTA.

[Logan Oak Worm]

gta aged worse than pd2

[LG SUS]

Ok in my personal Opinion Payday 2 has way better heists than GTA online. Payday 2 has a better and creative way to make the heist silent or louder. The big problem with GTA online is the money you get in gta Online is mediocre. Pressing the same button to get money, the money you deserve for doing the preparations is not fair. the grabbing animations is really mediocre. For example there is a the Diamond Casino Heist in gta online you need to press a bottom repetitively to get the money faster. And that is a mediocre cliche from rockstar games. There are some heist that you need 4 players to play the heist or two to play a heist. The last update the cayo perico Heist. you can do it alone. The grab animation doesn't require to press repetitively the buttons to grab the money now good. Bad you have a limit now to get loot. You need more people to get more loot. The point that i'm trying to say is rockstar is mediocre in terms of giving you money. Payday 2 you grab all the money, gold or whatever it will give you a fair offshore money and spending money. The grinding system in gta online is just not fair in terms of you have a tons of money and business requiring always for you to sell them. Hey by logic "wow i have a lot of money i need to sell my product so i'll hire someone to sell them for me and i'll give them 10% of the selling of that product" but no. The grinding system makes you by force being lazy