Legit infamy 500 possible by now?

[Lemushki]

So I was playing in a Pub, and this russian guy appears. He is infamy 500. Obviously he cheated to get there but... It left me wondering... Is it mathematically possible to have reached infamy 500 by now? Did anyone do the maths of how long it would take?

[⛤ . taki ˚⊹]

Only the first 100 levels will have rewards, which means they're most of the way there - the remaining 400 will be bragging rights alone.

I'm not going to grind. I like payday 2 a lot. No incentive would ever be enough for me to spend months of my life grinding for level 500 infamy though.

It's possible, but it would be painful

[mr bruh]

If you completely quit everything and just played payday 24/7 , I think you could?
If you just grinded the best heist constantly i feel like you could get at least 2 infamies per day , maybe even more

[DubbleChrisP]

It's possible to get about 1 infamy per hour by having a four-man crew with team boosts all ECM rushing Diamond Store over and over again. So if someone spent 500 hours doing just that, then sure.

EDIT: For ♥♥♥♥♥ and giggles I did the math. Let's assume that on Nov 11, a player was infamy 25. Now let's assume that they did nothing but diamond store rushing to maximize XP efficiency, so they're getting 1 infamy for every hour of game time. It's been 132 days since Infamy 3.0, so 475 infamies in that time period would require playing 3.6 hours per day minimum.

[Milkshaker]

Simple answer: NO. Not yet.

I know some very dedicated & active players, and they are between Infamy 75 and 125-ish.

It wil be a long, long time before anyone reaches Infamy 500 in a legit way.

Also don't trust the Diamond Store math. A full Infamy takes 23 Million XP. One hour allows for ca. 12 Diamond Store completions, the example would require a single run to give 2 Mil XP - not even close to what you really get. Also, nobody in the world would repeat that for 500 hours. Forget the theoretical examples.

With sustainable ways of getting XP, the reality is: one Infamy per day.
And even the most active players don't do this 365 days a year...

[DubbleChrisP]

Originally posted by Milkshaker:

Simple answer: NO. Not yet.

I know some very dedicated & active players, and they are between Infamy 75 and 125-ish.

It wil be a long, long time before anyone reaches Infamy 500 in a legit way.

Also don't trust the Diamond Store math. A full Infamy takes 23 Million XP. One hour allows for ca. 12 Diamond Store completions, the example would require a single run to give 2 Mil XP - not even close to what you really get. Also, nobody in the world would repeat that for 500 hours. Forget the theoretical examples.

With sustainable ways of getting XP, the reality is: one Infamy per day.
And even the most active players don't do this 365 days a year...

Of course it's not sustainable. No one would do that for 500 hours.

However, you are incorrect in the feasability and speed of Diamond Store rushes. I have completed a full infamy in an hour myself doing this strat. Only did it once because it was boring AF, but it is 100% possible to get a full infamy per hour doing it. Each completion takes about ~1min in game time. Return to lobby as soon as XP calculates, immediately purchase and start another one. Assuming everyone is coordinated, you're completing a Diamond Store every 2-3 minutes, which means 20-30 completions per hour. Each completion gives you about 1MM XP, and you only need about 25 completions to go from 0-100, taking into account the 10% reduction in XP for the first completion at level 0 and the 30% heat penalty, hence why everyone using team boost weapons for the extra 24% xp is so important.

[Milkshaker]

Okay, true. I forgot the possibility of agressively ECM-rushing it.
Maybe I wanted to.

[Hatch]

Originally posted by Milkshaker:

the reality is: one Infamy per day.

I guess it depends what a 'day' of playtime is for you. but, it's very possible to do 2-3 infamies per 'day' without really trying. you can infamy in 2 hours just playing holdout.

[Heroic Sheperd]

It’s possible, but I don’t think anyone is there yet legitimately.

I think the highest legitimate infamy level is probably somewhere around 300. I saw a few legitimate players back in late January/early February that were at around 175-200 so I could see those same driven players being about another 100 levels higher now. Even casually playing you can easily get 1 infamy a day, so grinding you could do 5-10 a day if you had some dedication.

[Yamumil]

You'd have seen few players with infamy 500 since earlier this year already if you have played the game in Korea... 🤣

[J-Bear]

100% possible, but has someone done it? Not sure. DubbleChrisP's math is about right. Basically a 4 man, 4 boosted (8 team boosts), all 18 bags secured diamond store rush with -30% xp penalty gives you Total: 890,820 xp. That's roughly 26 diamond stores per infamy (noting that at level 0 you do have an xp penalty due to your low level for the first heist that bumps you from level 0 to 46). With a solid team you can complete diamond store including load times and making a new heist in 1:30 (average 1:10 to complete the actual heist). That's 40 min per infamy at maximum efficiency. So 1 hour is a good estimate per infamy level. 475 hours since the infamy update is very realistic - I've come across some individuals infamy 300+ that have the stats (3k+ hours in game) and fbi files data to support it (thousands of heists completed). I'm about 2000 diamond stores in, and expect another 7000 to reach infamy 500.

I always host pub lobbies so you may see me around grinding - feel free to join, always teaching new players how it works. With new players on average it is probably 2:00 per heist instead of 1:30. But it is still the fastest xp in the game - I haven't seen any calculations to suggest even golden grin or big bank ecm rush is better (noting how complicated these can be to coordinate and that failure = losing multiple minutes of gamplay versus a few tens of seconds if you fail diamond store).

Edit: I'm about to hit 100 and I only started grinding end of December a few infamy levels a day.

[Thermal Lance]

I guess if the whole team is hooked on caffeine and wearing diapers. It can be done. But, it sounds very unlikely to me.

[BlackRibbon]

With a Shadow Raid ECM rush you can infamy in 2-3 hours so long as you keep the stealth bonus.

[PowerGorani]

holdout glitch, big oil day 1, shadow raid ecm, there's so many things to grind on payday 2

[Lanius]

I grinded shadow raid ecm rush with a team a lot to get to infamy 100 for the achievement. I didn't grind it in a consistent schedule but I nolifed the whole grind. These are my timestamps of the achievements:
Infamy 75: Unlocked 22 Nov, 2020 @ 8:42pm
Infamy 100: Unlocked 26 Nov, 2020 @ 3:21am

If someone is willing to get to 500 for some reason, It's totally possible they'd be there by now.
The real question is, is there someone who actually grinded that much for infamy 500?

[InterpoL]

if you play in your open lobby
with random players (usually not everyone has a team)
different heists (playing the same heist is a perversion)
you can get 1 infamy in 2-2.5 hours.