Mag-7 shotguns

[Poundtown]

If you play Counterstrike GO you'll know of the Mag-7 as the CT's small shotgun, if it were added to this game a dual wield option could be included and its about time dual wield shotguns made an appearance.

[Meep]

Isn't the Mag7 pump action though? If so, akimbos wouldn't work out, however, I would like a pump action mag fed shotgun in the game.

[Toyfan1]

I'd love if the Mag-7, PP-Bizon, and Scout where added in the game

theyd be great additions if Overkill does them well

[MrFluffyWolf]

Mag-7's could be cool. If Overkill learns how to make good shotguns.
Since they're pumps though, I think the Judge is a pretty good alternative choice for being an Akimbo shotgun choice. It's already a pistol in form, so it wouldn't be that big a leap.

[Poundtown]

Originally posted by Amaterasu:

Isn't the Mag7 pump action though? If so, akimbos wouldn't work out, however, I would like a pump action mag fed shotgun in the game.

Oh thats right, it would be a bit difficult to dual wield them if they're pump action.

[Rex]

Originally posted by Toyfan1: The Keyboard Warrior:

I'd love if the Mag-7, PP-Bizon, and Scout where added in the game

theyd be great additions if Overkill does them well

If they did those I would think...
-Mag-7: Judge clone
-PP-Bizon: Para SMG clone
-Scout: Rattlesnake type sniper

not a lot you can do well besides shuffling the stats to fit someone's build by mistake (and even thats not for everyone because Dodge/Armor/Etc)

[Poundtown]

Originally posted by Rex:

Originally posted by Toyfan1: The Keyboard Warrior:

I'd love if the Mag-7, PP-Bizon, and Scout where added in the game

theyd be great additions if Overkill does them well

If they did those I would think...
-Mag-7: Judge clone
-PP-Bizon: Para SMG clone
-Scout: Rattlesnake type sniper

not a lot you can do well besides shuffling the stats to fit someone's build by mistake (and even thats not for everyone because Dodge/Armor/Etc)

Sure the Mag, Bizon and Scout will have similar stats to the guns you mentioned but half the fun is having that good looking arsenal and deciding what you want to use today, its like women and shoes they need about a hundred pairs or more before they're satisfied and I guess I'm the same with guns on this game (maybe one day in real life too). Guns from the US, Russia and even Israel, add them on I say.

[Toyfan1]

No no, your doing Overkill's method of balancing.
You are looking at the straight stats of a weapon, when it's been proven that you can change stuff like accuracy while moving.
Rebalancing weapons to make each one unique in it's own way.

Mag-7
Increased pellet count
Barrels that decrease or increase accuracy and range (The ladder, having a very very small spread)
Or more damage lower you are on your mag

Ppbizon
Very high ammocount
60 in mag
More accuracy while moving
more stable the more you shoot
Fairly weak damage

Scout
Increased accuracy while crouching/moving (i know about the 100acc Ads thing)
Very high ammo pickup
High damage but Weaker penatration
Faster firerate and reload

Stuff like that
Not the standard "165 damage with 10 ammo pickup". That's what made weapons bland in the first place

[Rex]

Originally posted by Jackal:

Originally posted by Rex:

If they did those I would think...
-Mag-7: Judge clone
-PP-Bizon: Para SMG clone
-Scout: Rattlesnake type sniper

not a lot you can do well besides shuffling the stats to fit someone's build by mistake (and even thats not for everyone because Dodge/Armor/Etc)

Sure the Mag, Bizon and Scout will have similar stats to the guns you mentioned but half the fun is having that good looking arsenal and deciding what you want to use today

Wasnt saying its a bad thing for them to be clones, I was kinda pointing out the same thing... I like the Judge but not its looks, I LOVE the rattlesnakes stats but some of the other light snipers are ugly/in the way and we lack a weaker AK SMG to peep our eyes on

[yattadaro]

OP's name checks out.

Mag-7 isn't a good inclusion, it's a high damage mag fed shotgun (those two things don't mix in payday 2). Akimbos are impossible, and we already have the goliath as a secondary should you seek to lower the damage of the mag7.

Edit; I'm a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and forgot the Judge exists

[Poundtown]

Originally posted by Rex:

Originally posted by Jackal:

Sure the Mag, Bizon and Scout will have similar stats to the guns you mentioned but half the fun is having that good looking arsenal and deciding what you want to use today

Wasnt saying its a bad thing for them to be clones, I was kinda pointing out the same thing... I like the Judge but not its looks, I LOVE the rattlesnakes stats but some of the other light snipers are ugly/in the way and we lack a weaker AK SMG to peep our eyes on

Ah, I must have misinterpreted but I dont see any problem with them being cloned, I would prefer the look of a mag-7 compared to the judge, damage and concealment wise its a great gun but the look is too revolver like and it doesnt scream shotgun to me, the rattlesnakes stats are good for a light sniper rifle and the look of it is more appealing to me than say the R93 or the Platypus which are more powerful.

As Toyfan 1 said they could add a few tweaks and perks to them to make them a bit more unique in function which the should have done with the AK rifle, in CSGO the first shot of a full mag is most powerful and ive been on the business end of those shots sometimes but in payday every shot is the same to me.

[Poundtown]

Originally posted by GoToTheSettings:

OP's name checks out.

Mag-7 isn't a good inclusion, it's a high damage mag fed shotgun (those two things don't mix in payday 2). Akimbos are impossible, and we already have the goliath as a secondary should you seek to lower the damage of the mag7.

Edit; I'm a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and forgot the Judge exists

It's fine if everyone loves the judge or the goliath if it works for you use it, I love how powerful the judge is but I hate the look of it and the goliath is a bit too weak for my liking but looks like something I dont want pointed at me and thats the appeal I quite like in the guns on this game. The mag-7 I've always liked in CSGO and I use it in the office and building site map all the time cause I can get some good kills in with it and I would like it brought here, it may be more or less powerful than the judge and certainly would be more powerful than the goliath but I find it to be a great looking gun with some kick to it.

[Athener]

I think it can works this way
Mag-7: Middleground between Judge and Goliath, 7 mag with moderate damage but low rof and reload time
PP Bizon: LMG esque SMG, very high ammo count and perfect stability with small damage and accuracy
Scout: Rattlesnake damage, with Desertfox accuracy, but high ammo count

[Toyfan1]

And correction:
First shot in an AK mag (After a few seconds) it is always accurate.

[Sovereign Star]

CS:GO weapon pack.

Alongwith new skins for Cops? xd.

Hey, that sounds cool, but artisit won't be happy due to they have to work so hard to design something look very Police but legal.

[Sir Psycho]

Judge already does what a swag7 does. It's a fast firing, 5 round magazine, very fast reload weapon. It would work much better as an akimbo since the swag is a pump action.

However being a fan of the swag I'd love to see a judge reskin.