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Pigeons555 May 12, 2018 @ 10:06pm
What's up with the Repeater 1874?
From the Western Pack, this "Sniper Rifle" deals 246 base damage, has a decently usable RoF, piercing, 15 magazine size, and just happens to have a guaranteed 3 ammo pick up.

What?

The Contractor which deals DMR damage of around 160 (two shots Heavy SWAT on DW) picks up one entire less bullet than this.

This one shot headshots Heavy SWAT on DW/DS/OD in case you are wondering. Two shot headshots specials
Last edited by Pigeons555; May 12, 2018 @ 10:09pm
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Cherry May 12, 2018 @ 10:09pm 
despite recent balance changes, many weapons are still broken. Like the M308 is basically useless. The Tatonka SMG has made every other SMG in the game obsolete.
Pigeons555 May 12, 2018 @ 10:10pm 
Originally posted by CherryTaco 👌:
despite recent balance changes, many weapons are still broken. Like the M308 is basically useless. The Tatonka SMG has made every other SMG in the game obsolete.

I did pair the 1874 up with Bizon for killing Dozers because of its good damage and massive magazine. I was wondering when it got so good.

I'm glad this game hasn't changed too much balance-quality wise
JRex May 12, 2018 @ 10:48pm 
Plus you can use graze with it.
uNorthodoX May 12, 2018 @ 10:56pm 
Same thing happens with the Rattlesnake, their pre-buff pickups never got changed
DatMageDoe May 12, 2018 @ 11:01pm 
Originally posted by CherryTaco 👌:
despite recent balance changes, many weapons are still broken. Like the M308 is basically useless. The Tatonka SMG has made every other SMG in the game obsolete.
I'd say the Micro Uzi has more pull in terms of obsoleting SMGs, and a lot of them still have reasons to be run over either (though those reasons are limited).
Frosty May 12, 2018 @ 11:13pm 
No proper sights, long reload, no lasers, worse concealment than Contractor
Arrancar May 12, 2018 @ 11:14pm 
Originally posted by CherryTaco 👌:
despite recent balance changes, many weapons are still broken. Like the M308 is basically useless. The Tatonka SMG has made every other SMG in the game obsolete.
It it not like M308 was meta for years.
Steve from America May 12, 2018 @ 11:20pm 
Originally posted by Arrancar:
Originally posted by CherryTaco 👌:
despite recent balance changes, many weapons are still broken. Like the M308 is basically useless. The Tatonka SMG has made every other SMG in the game obsolete.
It it not like M308 was meta for years.
Something was obviously broken when it went from OP to garbage.
Curious Fox May 12, 2018 @ 11:33pm 
Originally posted by nonameman:
No proper sights, long reload, no lasers, worse concealment than Contractor

This.

The repeter has always been a tricky gun to use, and it is still tricky gun to use compared to all other snipers.

It actually deserves some glory.
Pigeons555 May 13, 2018 @ 12:22am 
Originally posted by Curious Fox:
Originally posted by nonameman:
No proper sights, long reload, no lasers, worse concealment than Contractor

This.

The repeter has always been a tricky gun to use, and it is still tricky gun to use compared to all other snipers.

It actually deserves some glory.

Aggressive Reload aced halves the reload time after getting any killing headshot to be fair. And I have no trouble getting that skill since I don't need any annoying silencer skills anymore.

The sights do suck ass and the lack of lasers definitely makes it harder to use for sure.

I was merely pointing out how a weapon that one shots Heavy SWATs picks up a guaranteed 3 ammo per box, which is quite remarkable when you compare it to the Contractor, or when you are considering the hard nerf to DMRs that hit a breakpoint less. I thought I had some weapon mod that affected only this weapon, because I don't even think the old DMR-4 had a 3 ammo pickup

Last edited by Pigeons555; May 13, 2018 @ 12:24am
Jostabeere May 13, 2018 @ 12:43am 
Originally posted by CherryTaco 👌:
despite recent balance changes, many weapons are still broken. Like the M308 is basically useless. The Tatonka SMG has made every other SMG in the game obsolete.
What the? The Tatonka is one of the worse ones. There are atleast 5 or even more SMGs which are better than it.


Originally posted by nonameman:
No proper sights, long reload, no lasers, worse concealment than Contractor
Basically this.
Originally posted by Pigeons555:
I was merely pointing out how a weapon that one shots Heavy SWATs picks up a guaranteed 3 ammo per box, which is quite remarkable when you compare it to the Contractor, or when you are considering the hard nerf to DMRs that hit a breakpoint less. I thought I had some weapon mod that affected only this weapon, because I don't even think the old DMR-4 had a 3 ammo pickup
It has severe drawbacks. 1 bullet is nothing compared to them. The Contractor is simply used on a different difficulty.
Edit: Also, the Repeater is not picking up 1 bullet more everytime. Their minimal pickup is 3.04 for Repeater and 2.70 for .308. You will pick up 3 with .308 every second? box?
Last edited by Jostabeere; May 13, 2018 @ 12:53am
Greb May 13, 2018 @ 2:44am 
It has the best sniper scope in the game.

Opinions vary.
Minar 🦄 May 13, 2018 @ 4:01am 
Originally posted by Greb:
It has the best sniper scope in the game.

Opinions vary.
I agree. For some reason I find it easier to use it's scope(not really a scope) then every other sniper scope in the game. The gun is a beast.
Last edited by Minar 🦄; May 13, 2018 @ 4:02am
UnknownMerc May 13, 2018 @ 7:21am 
BEWARE OF THIS CRAZY CHEAT MOD that simply tilts the Repeater so you can see the sights modeled on the gun

https://modworkshop.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=13223

But yes the Repeater is really good. I'd expect a massive nerf if people complained about it more.
Pigeons555 May 13, 2018 @ 12:58pm 
Originally posted by Jostabeere:
Originally posted by CherryTaco 👌:
despite recent balance changes, many weapons are still broken. Like the M308 is basically useless. The Tatonka SMG has made every other SMG in the game obsolete.
What the? The Tatonka is one of the worse ones. There are atleast 5 or even more SMGs which are better than it.


Originally posted by nonameman:
No proper sights, long reload, no lasers, worse concealment than Contractor
Basically this.
Originally posted by Pigeons555:
I was merely pointing out how a weapon that one shots Heavy SWATs picks up a guaranteed 3 ammo per box, which is quite remarkable when you compare it to the Contractor, or when you are considering the hard nerf to DMRs that hit a breakpoint less. I thought I had some weapon mod that affected only this weapon, because I don't even think the old DMR-4 had a 3 ammo pickup
It has severe drawbacks. 1 bullet is nothing compared to them. The Contractor is simply used on a different difficulty.
Edit: Also, the Repeater is not picking up 1 bullet more everytime. Their minimal pickup is 3.04 for Repeater and 2.70 for .308. You will pick up 3 with .308 every second? box?

Personally, I don't find the "drawbacks" that bad, which led to the creation of this post to see if anyone else thought like me

-I don't care about concealment because I hate everything about Dodge/low concealment builds, AKA armor player from the first hour. I never tried to say this is an OP gun for every possible build.
-I can fit in Aggresive Reload aced in my OD build so I can halve the reload time since I don't need to spec in silencer skills that they got rid of
-I usually never aim down sights anyway (though the lack of laser attachments does make this harder to use I will admit). The scope is quite easy to use as well

I just don't think the drawbacks are enough to justify dealing 240+ base damage with guaranteed 3 ammo pickup. It's literally impossible to run out of ammo with this weapon on DW/OD unless you are genuinly bad at the game. Except for the RoF, the Repeater is basically the pre-nerf DMR meta, except it also pierces and can use Graze. The Contractor takes an entire extra shot to do the same job the Repeapter does with only one shot, which generally leads to less overall ammo

It appears I am in the minority that believe the Repeater is somewhat broken because of it's ridiculous ammo pickup combined with its damage and general usability.
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Date Posted: May 12, 2018 @ 10:06pm
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