Question about Kento and Jiro

[Cute Fanat]

Is he found him? In which heist we can see that or where I can read about this? I waited Kento in band list or like DLC...

[Finppa]

In Henry's Rock, when you're escaping, you can see Kento in a murky uniform.

In Hell's Island, after Bain escapes, he kills dozen of murkies offscreen, including Kento where he collapses.

[Mustard Seeds]

Originally posted by TheL4D2Player2:

In Henry's Rock, when you're escaping, you can see Kento in a murky uniform.

In Hell's Island, after Bain escapes, he kills dozen of murkies offscreen, including Kento where he collapses.

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[Cute Fanat]

Originally posted by TheL4D2Player2:

In Henry's Rock, when you're escaping, you can see Kento in a murky uniform.

In Hell's Island, after Bain escapes, he kills dozen of murkies offscreen, including Kento where he collapses.

It's all? It's really all? Pfff of course OVK ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ good ideas to good idead...

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Cute Fanat:

Originally posted by TheL4D2Player2:

In Henry's Rock, when you're escaping, you can see Kento in a murky uniform.

In Hell's Island, after Bain escapes, he kills dozen of murkies offscreen, including Kento where he collapses.

It's all? It's really all? Pfff of course OVK ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ good ideas to good idead...

Brah... maybe if you understood what the CONTEXT of him killing all of those soldiers! The dude was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ poisoned by them you think he's gonna give a ♥♥♥♥ wither or not one of them was Jiro's son while in a poisoned induced rage!

[Dan Smith]

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

Originally posted by Cute Fanat:

It's all? It's really all? Pfff of course OVK ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ good ideas to good idead...

Brah... maybe if you understood what the CONTEXT of him killing all of those soldiers! The dude was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ poisoned by them you think he's gonna give a ♥♥♥♥ wither or not one of them was Jiro's son while in a poisoned induced rage!

I mean there was no point in not killing Kento. If he wouldnt kill him, would Kento suddenly throw murkywater away and join the gang just because his father ( the one he barely knew ) did ?

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Vladimir the Fancy Raven:

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

Brah... maybe if you understood what the CONTEXT of him killing all of those soldiers! The dude was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ poisoned by them you think he's gonna give a ♥♥♥♥ wither or not one of them was Jiro's son while in a poisoned induced rage!

I mean there was no point in not killing Kento. If he wouldnt kill him, would Kento suddenly throw murkywater away and join the gang just because his father ( the one he barely knew ) did ?

His father was never apart of Murkywater so that question you asked makes no sense, as for Kento for all we know he could have thought his father was dead since this is the Yakuza we're talking about here, they don't exactly leave loose ends alive.

[Cute Fanat]

He was poisoned, torturing, and other things, and he easily kill Murky's Soldier's that include Special unit's but not cloaker huh? But if gang see Bain he always weak, this is stupid and there's not context they just tried to end this ♥♥♥♥ line to not worst after all, and Kento died just because we already have Murky Rat Locke... nothing to continue this discussion Kento 100% knew that he's Father is alive, cuz there was heist's where only Loud and Murky was there before Hell Island Heis't so OVK just don't have alot of money, time and people to do this or they just lazy and don't forget about what they do with skins and safes it's just S-H-I-T now you just enter everyday for random skin from cards, better if they just add safes in cards and make WITHOUT Drills, really man everyone can use this skins with Hack's but people put big money on Steam trade place... All if ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Cute Fanat:

He was poisoned, torturing, and other things, and he easily kill Murky's Soldier's that include Special unit's but not cloaker huh? But if gang see Bain he always weak, this is stupid and there's not context they just tried to end this ♥♥♥♥ line to not worst after all, and Kento died just because we already have Murky Rat Locke... nothing to continue this discussion Kento 100% knew that he's Father is alive, cuz there was heist's where only Loud and Murky was there before Hell Island Heis't so OVK just don't have alot of money, time and people to do this or they just lazy and don't forget about what they do with skins and safes it's just S-H-I-T now you just enter everyday for random skin from cards, better if they just add safes in cards and make WITHOUT Drills, really man everyone can use this skins with Hack's but people put big money on Steam trade place... All if ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

No there was Cloakers as well, those guys that are smashed into sinks, those are the Cloakers for the Murkys.
Edit:also that virus he was poisoned with, according to the lore its the same stuff from Valve's Left 4 Dead so...

[Mustard Seeds]

Originally posted by Cute Fanat:

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He wasn't exactly poisoned, he was infected with the virus from L4D, If you played the game you would've heard Bain saying that on No Mercy the job is for some military group AKA murkywater.

Also no, Kento did not know his father was alive, it was the other way around Jiro knew Kento was alive but did not know where he was exactly, is on his trailer, Jesus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A1Zb_HX-6g

Also if you want to rant save it for your friends only, as is against the rules of the forum my guy, the addition of Kento and how that history arc ended was poorly executed yes, but there's no reason to rant about other completely unrelated things.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Mustard Seeds:

Originally posted by Cute Fanat:

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He wasn't exactly poisoned, he was infected with the virus from L4D, If you played the game you would've heard Bain saying that on No Mercy the job is for some military group AKA murkywater.

I still don't understand why they even changed the lore because when No Mercy first was released Overkill literally said its not gonna be related to Valve's Left 4 Dead which even Valve backed them up on then they do a 180 a say yeah its related to Valve's Left 4 Dead.

[Mustard Seeds]

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

Originally posted by Mustard Seeds:

He wasn't exactly poisoned, he was infected with the virus from L4D, If you played the game you would've heard Bain saying that on No Mercy the job is for some military group AKA murkywater.

I still don't understand why they even changed the lore because when No Mercy first was released Overkill literally said its not gonna be related to Valve's Left 4 Dead which even Valve backed them up on then they do a 180 a say yeah its related to Valve's Left 4 Dead.

Pretty sure isn't exactly canon, is just heavily implied that is related to the L4D virus but to me that whole Kento search felt like it was made on the spot or maybe in a brainstorm in the course of a week, they could've easily replaced the guy on green bridge to be Kento, and be done, but then they realised they could've extended that whole story a bit more since a proper final to Jiro's quest was a big request.

Probably figured adding it to the secret ending playing a more important role and such but due lack of funds and everything ending way too abruptly around that time never got a proper fleshed out ending and they had to do with what they had.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Mustard Seeds:

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

I still don't understand why they even changed the lore because when No Mercy first was released Overkill literally said its not gonna be related to Valve's Left 4 Dead which even Valve backed them up on then they do a 180 a say yeah its related to Valve's Left 4 Dead.

Pretty sure isn't exactly canon, is just heavily implied that is related to the L4D virus but to me that whole Kento search felt like it was made on the spot or maybe in a brainstorm in the course of a week, they could've easily replaced the guy on green bridge to be Kento, and be done, but then they realised they could've extended that whole story a bit more since a proper final to Jiro's quest was a big request.

I'm mostly referring to No Mercy itself, I remember that heist back in the first game just being nothing but an easter egg to Left 4 Dead nothing more, what happened in that heist didn't mean anything in regards to PayDay or Left 4 Dead, then PayDay 2 comes and when No Mercy comes back the events now are tied to Left 4 Dead when it wasn't supposed to.

[Mustard Seeds]

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

Originally posted by Mustard Seeds:

Pretty sure isn't exactly canon, is just heavily implied that is related to the L4D virus but to me that whole Kento search felt like it was made on the spot or maybe in a brainstorm in the course of a week, they could've easily replaced the guy on green bridge to be Kento, and be done, but then they realised they could've extended that whole story a bit more since a proper final to Jiro's quest was a big request.

I'm mostly referring to No Mercy itself, I remember that heist back in the first game just being nothing but an easter egg to Left 4 Dead nothing more, what happened in that heist didn't mean anything in regards to PayDay or Left 4 Dead, then PayDay 2 comes and when No Mercy comes back the events now are tied to Left 4 Dead when it wasn't supposed to.

Still isn't technically, as I said is just implied.

[RandomTurtle]

Guy's I can tell you why Bain Kills Kento, as soon as you free Bain you hear The Dentist Delivering more epic voice lines. At this point as soon as the timelock runs out he says "Another player has entered the arena, Kento, Bain is getting away, stop him. although it's feels contradictary to what he says earlier, it's not "If you manage to get Bain out of here alive, He's all yours, It is a moral choice after all" I mean I'm not 100% if those are the exact voice lines but I'm certain it's close.

So Bain couldn't spare Kento as Kento has express orders to kill him and is a high ranking Murkeywater officer. Kento was likely a vicious killing machine due to his isolation (no parents) Therefore he likely enjoys his job, earnt his rank through blood, In Henry's Rock you can see him eyeing up the Payday gang, I was hoping for more of a boss fight against Kento but death by Bain and Locke rolling in is cool too I guess

Another important thing to keep in mind about this games story. They kept adding new stuff to it, created lots of loose ends and at the point of wanting to wrap it up they realised what a mess everything was, so they hired a writer to come in and stitch it all together in a conclusion. In a way this felt like the natural way for the story to go, as all throughout the game you steal rare items but you as the thief and not the fence, don't really think about what happens, just "Bain will deal with it" so of course it makes sense Bain is actually planning something much much bigger, like some next level crazy cultist magic stuff.. But of course there was still other loose ends to be addressed in limited time.

Such as The Dentist, so they made them into even more shady than before where he had Dallas at knifepoint, literally only freeing Hoxton so Dallas and the crew think he's a cool guy, as after running two jobs for him, he gets your friend back, and even lets them get their revenge before you carry on your work with him. It puts the crew at ease so he can monitor them more easily.

Then of course there is the elephant in the room Kento, although it seems random for him to crop up where he did, I honestly don't think I could do anything better at that stage of the game. To make a set of missions to locate Kento wouldn't be make much sense as there are very few things you can rob to locate a specific person. So I know that Heat Street and Green Bridge involve escorting out people with information on Kento, then it follows with Alaskan Deal which as we all know is the beginning of the end. But what if the info just led to Kento being a Gangster/Organised crime, It wouldn't be that interesting, it'd feel like we already had something similar with biker gangs and rust.

But this is where I realised that the Kento thing makes sense Let's assume The Dentist is keeping tabs on the Payday gangs activities, none of the robberies make him react until he hears of them blowing up a bridge to disrupt a prison transport where the person they freed and spent there efforts escorting to the construction site to helicopter out, has information on one of your highest ranking officers that you directly interact with. At this point the Dentist knew it wouldn't be long before Bain and the Payday gang would meet him again, one way or another, so he decides to strike first, first aiming to take out the Payday gang by getting them arrested. However as we know Bain and Locke have a plan and thus rolls Alaskan deal.

The deal was a massive success and the Payday gang did evade capture in DC. However the Dentist decides to take a different approach and strike whilst the iron is hot, and as Bain and Locke are keeping the crew in the dark then he needs to cut off the head and the body will die, so that why Res Dogs goes how it does, It was part of The Dentists plan to locate Bain. They capture him as to try leaving the crew completely in the dark, however he manages to tell the crew to trust Locke, and thus Locke takes you through the rest of the story. The Dentist feels much safer after capturing Bain as he was one of the few that knows about the ancient body switching technique, however Locke is immediately on the case sending you to Henrys Rock, Brooklyn Bank, The FBI Office and An auction house to quickly gather up the boxes, keys and content. And wastes no time carrrying on Bains work.

So since The Dentist can't stop you it was only inevitable for you to eventually meet the high ranking Murkey Officer Kento, as by the looks of it he has higher level clearance at Henry Rock so he must be extremely high rank. The Dentist genuinely thought Kento would have no trouble killing Bain but Bain is super OP even when he only uses 10% of his power.

The third alternative is he is mentioned in the "where are the now" cutscene when they talk about Jiro after you complete the secret ending, this would have been the biggest cop out and I'm glad they didn't do it.

TL;DR: You can say there is no story behind Kento at all, but Kento is an important character although they couldn't do much with him, It was because they wanted to find Kento that The Dentist intervened when he did, thus the story would have been much different if Kento wasn't a murkey top dog that had knowledge of The Dentists

[Arthur von Tule]

Originally posted by randomturtle01:

Guy's I can tell you why Bain Kills Kento, as soon as you free Bain you hear The Dentist Delivering more epic voice lines. At this point as soon as the timelock runs out he says "Another player has entered the arena, Kento, Bain is getting away, stop him. although it's feels contradictary to what he says earlier, it's not "If you manage to get Bain out of here alive, He's all yours, It is a moral choice after all" I mean I'm not 100% if those are the exact voice lines but I'm certain it's close.

So Bain couldn't spare Kento as Kento has express orders to kill him and is a high ranking Murkeywater officer. Kento was likely a vicious killing machine due to his isolation (no parents) Therefore he likely enjoys his job, earnt his rank through blood, In Henry's Rock you can see him eyeing up the Payday gang, I was hoping for more of a boss fight against Kento but death by Bain and Locke rolling in is cool too I guess

Another important thing to keep in mind about this games story. They kept adding new stuff to it, created lots of loose ends and at the point of wanting to wrap it up they realised what a mess everything was, so they hired a writer to come in and stitch it all together in a conclusion. In a way this felt lie the natural way for the story to go, as all throughout the game you steal rare items but you as the thief and not the fence, don't really think about what happens, just "Bain will deal with it" so of course it makes sense Bain is actually planning something much much bigger, like some next level crazy cultist magic stuff.. But of course there was still other loose ends to be addressed in limited time.

Such as The Dentist, so they made them into even more shady than before where he had Dallas at knifepoint, literally only freeing Hoxton so Dallas and the crew think he's a cool guy, as after running two jobs for him, he gets your friend back, and even lets them get their revenge before you carry on your work with him. It puts the crew at ease so he can monitor them more easily.

Then of course there is the elephant in the room Kento, although it seems random for him to crop up where he did, I honestly don't think I could do anything better at that stage of the game. To make a set of missions to locate Kento wouldn't be make much sense as there are very few things you can rob to locate a specific person. So I know that Heat Street and Green Bridge involve escorting out people with information on Kento, then it follows with Alaskan Deal which as we all know is the beginning of the end. But what if the info just led to Kento being a Gangster/Organised crime, It wouldn't be that interesting, it'd feel like we already had something similar with biker gangs and rust.

But this is where I realised that the Kento thing makes sense Let's assume The Dentist is keeping tabs on the Payday gangs activities, none of the robberies make him react until he hears of them blowing up a bridge to disrupt a prison transport where the person they freed and spent there efforts escorting to the construction site to helicopter out, has information on one of your highest ranking officers that you directly interact with. At this point the Dentist knew it wouldn't be long before Bain and the Payday gang would meet him again, one way or another, so he decides to strike first, first aiming to take out the Payday gang by getting them arrested. However as we know Bain and Locke have a plan and thus rolls Alaskan deal.

The deal was a massive success and the Payday gang did evade capture in DC. However the Dentist decides to take a different approach and strike whilst the iron is hot, and as Bain and Locke are keeping the crew in the dark then he needs to cut off the head and the body will die, so that why Res Dogs goes how it does, It was part of The Dentists plan to locate Bain. They capture him as to try leaving the crew completely in the dark, however he manages to tell the crew to trust Locke, and thus Locke takes you through the rest of the story. The Dentist feels much safer after capturing Bain as he was one of the few that knows about the ancient body switching technique, however Locke is immediately on the case sending you to Henrys Rock, Brooklyn Bank, The FBI Office and An auction house to quickly gather up the boxes, keys and content. And wastes no time carrrying on Bains work.

So since The Dentist can't stop you it was only inevitable for you to eventually meet the high ranking Murkey Officer Kento, as by the looks of it he has higher level clearance at Henry Rock so he must be extremely high rank. The Dentist genuinely thought Kento would have no trouble killing Bain but Bain is super OP even when he only uses 10% of his power.

The third alternative is he is mentioned in the "where are the now" cutscene when they talk about Jiro after you complete the secret ending, this would have been the biggest cop out and I'm glad they didn't do it.

TL;DR: You can say there is no story behind Kento at all, but Kento is an important character although they couldn't do much with him, It was because they wanted to find Kento that The Dentist intervened when he did, thus the story would have been much different if Kento wasn't a murkey top dog that had knowledge of The Dentists

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