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Infamous LVL in Numbers instead of roman numerals
Hey yall,

I tried to find such mod that replace infamous's roman numerals with normal number,but i have no luck finding such.

Does anybody know where i can find one?

In my country we do not use roman numerals,i'm having a hard time reading them :D
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Sky Flare Jun 28, 2017 @ 5:51am 
Originally posted by Malidictus:
Originally posted by Sterling:
There's a difference between saying and reading the numbers. Actually, there isn't. You read X as "ten".

So Infamy XIX would be "ten-one-ten?"
No, it would be "nineteen" because that's what XIX means.
No one would would read it ten-one-ten, that's silly. You wouldn't read "19" as one-nine would you?
Last edited by Sky Flare; Jun 28, 2017 @ 5:52am
yuiforever Jun 28, 2017 @ 5:52am 
Originally posted by Malidictus:
Originally posted by Sterling:
There's a difference between saying and reading the numbers. Actually, there isn't. You read X as "ten".

So Infamy XIX would be "ten-one-ten?" As I said, figuring out number grouping on the fly is annoying. And yes, I'm the sort of person who doesn't like analgoue watches, either. <insert "your[sic] stupid" comment here> I simply don't see the point in using an objectively inferior numbering system when an objectively superior one exists. Aesthetics shouldn't interfere with usability.

It's just 25 numbers. No one's using it for calculus.
No. Jun 28, 2017 @ 5:54am 
While true that abysmally inferior to the Arabic system when it comes to most things, the formatting in this context isn't as hard as some seem to imply, seeing how the only valid substractive forms below XXV are IV and IX, so besides IV, IX, XIV, XIX, and XXIV (which are elementary school level ones which are instantly interpreted by the brain), every other value is a straight "translation".
Last edited by No.; Jun 28, 2017 @ 5:57am
Modest Mauser Jun 28, 2017 @ 6:03am 
Originally posted by Malidictus:
See, I have an engineering background. To me, stuff looks "cool" when it looks functional. Arabic Numerals are functiona and I'm already familiar with them, so naturally that's my first choice. I could also go with Egyptian Numerals as well, though. They're a bit clunkier to write, but they're still based on the power of 10, with each symbol repeated to denote several of it. Similar deal to roman numerals, but without the need bother with digit grouping whatsoever.

I have a mechanical background, and I think you type too much stuff nobody in their right mind would care about.
Lazurium Jun 28, 2017 @ 8:26am 
I 1
II 2
III 3
IV 4
V 5
VI 6
VII 7
VIII 8
IX 9
X 10
XI 11
XII 12
XIII 13
XIV 14
XV 15
XVI 16
XVII 17
XVIII 18
XIX 19
XX 20
XXI 21
XXII 22
XXIII 23
XXIV 24
XXV 25

There you go
Feli Jun 28, 2017 @ 8:37am 
>When you dont go to skool
Mhts Jun 28, 2017 @ 8:38am 
thx
Malidictus Jun 28, 2017 @ 9:13am 
Originally posted by Nadir:
I have a mechanical background, and I think you type too much stuff nobody in their right mind would care about.

My experience strongly disagrees with your insult. Moreover, that's just a retread of the "tl;dr" argument, which has historically never contributed to a discussion. If you have a problem with how much I post, there's a very simple solution - don't read it. While missing out on your insight would be unfortunate, somehow I'll manage.

Originally posted by Mini Tiger:
There you go

I'm interested to see how long it'll take to get a simple matter through to people. Being able to do something doesn't make that thing convenient. I don't have to be physically incapable of doing something in order to dislike doing it. I can do quadratic equations, for instance, but I'm still going to complain if people give me their phone number for work as the solution of a quadratic equation.

I have the sneaking suspicion that people are using this as an opportunity to brag about how smart they are by insulting the straw men effigies of other people.
Sterling Jun 28, 2017 @ 11:11am 
Originally posted by Malidictus:
Originally posted by Sterling:
There's a difference between saying and reading the numbers. Actually, there isn't. You read X as "ten".

So Infamy XIX would be "ten-one-ten?" As I said, figuring out number grouping on the fly is annoying. And yes, I'm the sort of person who doesn't like analgoue watches, either. <insert "your[sic] stupid" comment here> I simply don't see the point in using an objectively inferior numbering system when an objectively superior one exists. Aesthetics shouldn't interfere with usability.
Come on dude, don't twist things. I already explained how 1 to 25 works in Roman, so all people gotta do is put together 1 with 1 and get a 2. Or an 11, if they're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dumb.
Modest Mauser Jun 28, 2017 @ 11:23am 
Originally posted by Malidictus:
Originally posted by Nadir:
I have a mechanical background, and I think you type too much stuff nobody in their right mind would care about.

My experience strongly disagrees with your insult. Moreover, that's just a retread of the "tl;dr" argument, which has historically never contributed to a discussion. If you have a problem with how much I post, there's a very simple solution - don't read it. While missing out on your insight would be unfortunate, somehow I'll manage.

Originally posted by Mini Tiger:
There you go

I'm interested to see how long it'll take to get a simple matter through to people. Being able to do something doesn't make that thing convenient. I don't have to be physically incapable of doing something in order to dislike doing it. I can do quadratic equations, for instance, but I'm still going to complain if people give me their phone number for work as the solution of a quadratic equation.

I have the sneaking suspicion that people are using this as an opportunity to brag about how smart they are by insulting the straw men effigies of other people.

I rest my case.
Malidictus Jun 28, 2017 @ 12:10pm 
Originally posted by Nadir:
I rest my case.

You know, for someone who keeps ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about tl;dr, you sure keep responding a lot.

Originally posted by Sterling:
Come on dude, don't twist things. I already explained how 1 to 25 works in Roman, so all people gotta do is put together 1 with 1 and get a 2. Or an 11, if they're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dumb.

Explaining how roman numerals work to people who already know how roman numerals work isn't really going to accomplish anything, nor will it make them any less cumbersome.
Last edited by Malidictus; Jun 28, 2017 @ 12:12pm
Sky Flare Jun 28, 2017 @ 12:10pm 
Originally posted by Malidictus:
Originally posted by Nadir:
I have a mechanical background, and I think you type too much stuff nobody in their right mind would care about.

My experience strongly disagrees with your insult. Moreover, that's just a retread of the "tl;dr" argument, which has historically never contributed to a discussion. If you have a problem with how much I post, there's a very simple solution - don't read it. While missing out on your insight would be unfortunate, somehow I'll manage.

Originally posted by Mini Tiger:
There you go

I'm interested to see how long it'll take to get a simple matter through to people. Being able to do something doesn't make that thing convenient. I don't have to be physically incapable of doing something in order to dislike doing it. I can do quadratic equations, for instance, but I'm still going to complain if people give me their phone number for work as the solution of a quadratic equation.

No one would consider themselves smart just because they know something that's taught in grade school in most places and that anyone with internet access and a functioning brain can learn in 5 minutes, that being counting up to 25 using roman numerals. I'm just surprised that there's people who stuggle with it.

Also, infamy being written in roman numbers serves 2 purposes:
- It helps people distinguish between infamy and actual reputation level easier than if it was displayed as just a bunch of numbers.
- Further reinforces the idea of infamy being 'special', along with the spade next to your screen name and the burning card for your character in lobbies.

Yes, normal numbers might be objectively superior to roman ones, but so is a studio microphone to a 20€ headset, but the latter will work just fine if all I want to do is talk to people on Discord, just like how roman numbers can count up to 25 just fine. I'd be ready to bet the vast majority of players know how to read them and the rest can learn quickly. Those unable and unwilling will just have to install a mod or make angry posts on the forum, I suppose. (No, I'm not talking about you you smart special sunflower, I know you can use roman numbers and just hate them because you like function over form while completely ignoring the function of form)

Last edited by Sky Flare; Jun 28, 2017 @ 12:13pm
Malidictus Jun 28, 2017 @ 12:15pm 
Originally posted by Flare:
Yes, normal numbers might be objectively superior to roman ones, but so is a studio microphone to a 20€ headset, but the latter will work just fine if all I want to do is talk to people on Discord, just like how roman numbers can count up to 25 just fine. I'd be ready to bet the vast majority of players know how to read them and the rest can learn quickly. Those unable and unwilling will just have to install a mod or make angry posts on the forum, I suppose.

There's Infinite Infamy coming somewhere down the line, however. On-stream, Overkill joked about how the maximum Infamy would be be 2 147 483 647 because that's the largest value a 32-bit signed integer can hold. Granted, that's absurd but they are looking for Infamy levels in the hundreds at least, if not in the thousands.
Sky Flare Jun 28, 2017 @ 12:20pm 
Originally posted by Malidictus:
Originally posted by Flare:
Yes, normal numbers might be objectively superior to roman ones, but so is a studio microphone to a 20€ headset, but the latter will work just fine if all I want to do is talk to people on Discord, just like how roman numbers can count up to 25 just fine. I'd be ready to bet the vast majority of players know how to read them and the rest can learn quickly. Those unable and unwilling will just have to install a mod or make angry posts on the forum, I suppose.

There's Infinite Infamy coming somewhere down the line, however. On-stream, Overkill joked about how the maximum Infamy would be be 2 147 483 647 because that's the largest value a 32-bit signed integer can hold. Granted, that's absurd but they are looking for Infamy levels in the hundreds at least, if not in the thousands.
Then maybe they'll change it when that comes out
Sterling Jun 28, 2017 @ 12:21pm 
Originally posted by Malidictus:
Originally posted by Sterling:
Come on dude, don't twist things. I already explained how 1 to 25 works in Roman, so all people gotta do is put together 1 with 1 and get a 2. Or an 11, if they're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dumb.

Explaining how roman numerals work to people who already know how roman numerals work isn't really going to accomplish anything, nor will it make them any less cumbersome.
And that's fine, but you don't have to try to twist my argument to make a point for yourself.
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