Best secondary?

[Decimator]

I was thinking of changing my loud secondary to something else. Its either a shotgun, smg, or another pistol. The current pistol I have right now is the Luger (aka Parabellum) and I really like it. Most of the characteristics I am looking for is high damage, high ammo pickup, and a relativly sizeable reserves. So far I was thinking the CR 805B for an smg and the GSPS 12G shotguns. Thoughts?

[On-Lyne]

chicago typewriter aka tommygun, good damage, accurate at relatively long distance (remember to swap fire mode when engaging snipers) good ammo economy even without skills the recoil on long sustained fire is bit much but just do bursts and u are fine ._./
bonus points for the looks

[Arrancar]

1. China Puff
2. Judge
3. Whatever you want

[Sl1m]

You should rely more on skills than weapons.
Anyway
The Glock18c is the best pistol rn IMO
+can be concealed
+RoF high as ♥♥♥♥
+good ammo pickup
+really stable
-You burn ammo.

CR 805B has ♥♥♥♥♥♥ pickup rate

[Hugo]

The bernetti 9 is an interesting one. It allows you to get full low blow with the minigun, microgun, flamethrower and rpk lmg.
Usefull if you want something to mess around.

[frowzy]

STREET SWEEPER. just spam mouse1.

[FireDrake]

Nobody is listening to your conditions, so I'll do my best:

For high damage and high ammo economy:

Parabellum and Broomstick with barrel mod are very good. As you probably have seen, they are reliable, can hit targets at a distance, etc. If you're looking to reduce the damage a little bit for more ammo economy, the White Streak and Baby Deagle got your back. If what you want is dodge, consider a Bronco with +3 Conc Boost or a Baby Deagle.

SMGs with high damage have a poor ammo economy, so don't rely much on them. If you really want to use one, Krinkov and CR805b are pretty great, though the Tatonka trades off a little long distance capability (which is useful with high damage weapons) for a massive magazine, and even higher ammo economy. If you look to dodge, the Jackal. A short mag, though terrible in a pickle, will help you keep in check and extend how much your ammo lasts.

High damage shotgun is obviously the Judge, but its ammo economy is abysmal, so I don't recommend it for you unless you want to change playstyle. The locomotive is a classic. You'll never run out of ammo, as long as you run regularly over pickups, and it finishes groups of enemies fairly quickly. Even better for dps is the GSPS. I like it a lot, but its ammo count is pretty meh.

Keep in mind this advice is based on playing on DW.

[FireDrake]

Originally posted by Pingu:

STREET SWEEPER. just spam mouse1.

Until you have to reload.

Don't get me wrong, it's fairly good, and you can interrupt the reload for an extra shot, but the Goliath with skills annihilates it. And the Steakout or IZHMA if you want a primary. Or if you use DB, the Grimm or Grimms. Poor Street Sweeper is the little brother.

[fusioN]

bronco / krinkov / locomotive

[Decimator]

Originally posted by Arrancar:

1. China Puff
2. Judge
3. Whatever you want :emofdr:

Ok thanks for the shotgun, but was not asking for any grenade launcher

[Decimator]

Originally posted by FireDrake:

Nobody is listening to your conditions, so I'll do my best:

For high damage and high ammo economy:

Parabellum and Broomstick with barrel mod are very good. As you probably have seen, they are reliable, can hit targets at a distance, etc. If you're looking to reduce the damage a little bit for more ammo economy, the White Streak and Baby Deagle got your back. If what you want is dodge, consider a Bronco with +3 Conc Boost or a Baby Deagle.

SMGs with high damage have a poor ammo economy, so don't rely much on them. If you really want to use one, Krinkov and CR805b are pretty great, though the Tatonka trades off a little long distance capability (which is useful with high damage weapons) for a massive magazine, and even higher ammo economy. If you look to dodge, the Jackal. A short mag, though terrible in a pickle, will help you keep in check and extend how much your ammo lasts.

High damage shotgun is obviously the Judge, but its ammo economy is abysmal, so I don't recommend it for you unless you want to change playstyle. The locomotive is a classic. You'll never run out of ammo, as long as you run regularly over pickups, and it finishes groups of enemies fairly quickly. Even better for dps is the GSPS. I like it a lot, but its ammo count is pretty meh.

Keep in mind this advice is based on playing on DW.

Thanks a lot I really apreciate the advice! I will probably stick with the Parabellum and sometimes might go with the last 2 shotguns you mentioned. I do run a dodge build and the Parabellum is perfect for me right now, having a good enough ammo economy for me. I just bought the Ultamate edition (got payday when it was free) so I am looking for some good weapons for my loud build. I also tried out the CR805b which was only helpful for taking out dozers, and even the Parabellum did a better job at that in my opinion since I was finding out to have run out of ammo after 3 dozers.

[Decimator]

Originally posted by The Real Slim Phoenix:

You should rely more on skills than weapons.
Anyway
The Glock18c is the best pistol rn IMO
+can be concealed
+RoF high as ♥♥♥♥
+good ammo pickup
+really stable
-You burn ammo.

CR 805B has ♥♥♥♥♥♥ pickup rate

I use the Galant and Parabellum already though...

[FireDrake]

Originally posted by Blizzard:

Originally posted by The Real Slim Phoenix:

You should rely more on skills than weapons.
Anyway
The Glock18c is the best pistol rn IMO
+can be concealed
+RoF high as ♥♥♥♥
+good ammo pickup
+really stable
-You burn ammo.

CR 805B has ♥♥♥♥♥♥ pickup rate

I use the Galant and Parabellum already though...

Oh, if you're using the Galant, you really need a reliable secondary. Forget the Judge and every SMG mentioned (except maybe the Tatonka) unless you want to change it some day. Don't get me wrong, it's amazing, but its ammo goes away fast.

[Unreliable Derpy]

best secondary for dodge build or if you use a long range primary : Micro-Uzi
Goes to 31 conceal. with a greate rate of fire (1200/min), only need the skill to add 15 more bullets. (only 3 points)

[Decimator]

Originally posted by FireDrake:

Originally posted by Blizzard:

I use the Galant and Parabellum already though...

Oh, if you're using the Galant, you really need a reliable secondary. Forget the Judge and every SMG mentioned (except maybe the Tatonka) unless you want to change it some day. Don't get me wrong, it's amazing, but its ammo goes away fast.

I mainly use my secondary for helping to take out dozers and to use it when I am running low on ammo for the galant. The galants ammo does not go by too fast as long as you balance it with a secondary