Pistol breakpoints with new trigger Happy.

[Jostabeere]

So the new Trigger happy gives a 120% damage bonus.
In theory, a 100 damage pistol does 220 damage with the skill active, right?
Am I correct in my calculations that a pistol with 218 or akimbos with 109 base damage will kill a Taser/Medic withing 1(2) shots on DW/DS?

[DatMageDoe]

To one tap a Taser, you'd need to be dealing 239 damage per shot. So no, you will not be one tapping Tasers. He'd live, barely.

[Terminator01]

Who cares about breakpoints if this is easily possible?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1318598356&fileuploadsuccess=1

[Jostabeere]

Originally posted by DatMageDoe:

To one tap a Taser, you'd need to be dealing 239 damage per shot. So no, you will not be one tapping Tasers. He'd live, barely.

Did you count the 120% damage boost? Basically 220% base damage has to be the breakpoint, right?

Originally posted by Terminator01:

Who cares about breakpoints if this is easily possible?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1318598356&fileuploadsuccess=1

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[DatMageDoe]

Originally posted by Jostabeere:

Originally posted by DatMageDoe:

To one tap a Taser, you'd need to be dealing 239 damage per shot. So no, you will not be one tapping Tasers. He'd live, barely.

Did you count the 120% damage boost? Basically 220% base damage has to be the breakpoint, right?

Yes. If you're doing 209 damage per shot, the Taser would live with ~100 HP left.

If you want to one tap Tasers, you're probably better off with the Castigos. They can one tap Tasers.

[Jostabeere]

Originally posted by DatMageDoe:

Originally posted by Jostabeere:

Did you count the 120% damage boost? Basically 220% base damage has to be the breakpoint, right?

Yes. If you're doing 209 damage per shot, the Taser would live with ~100 HP left.

If you want to one tap Tasers, you're probably better off with the Castigos. They can one tap Tasers.

maybe we're misunderstanding each other. I mean headshots. Do you?

[DatMageDoe]

Originally posted by Jostabeere:

Originally posted by DatMageDoe:

Yes. If you're doing 209 damage per shot, the Taser would live with ~100 HP left.

If you want to one tap Tasers, you're probably better off with the Castigos. They can one tap Tasers.

maybe we're misunderstanding each other. I mean headshots. Do you?

Yes. Headshots. Without help from an external skill (just Trigger Happy), your akimbo pistols cannot one shot Tasers.

[Jostabeere]

Originally posted by DatMageDoe:

Originally posted by Jostabeere:

maybe we're misunderstanding each other. I mean headshots. Do you?

Yes. Headshots. Without help from an external skill, your akimbo pistols cannot one shot Tasers.

OP says with Trigger Happy, an external skill, and I even directly asked you if you took the external skill into account.

[DatMageDoe]

Originally posted by Jostabeere:

Originally posted by DatMageDoe:

Yes. Headshots. Without help from an external skill, your akimbo pistols cannot one shot Tasers.

OP says with Trigger Happy, an external skill, and I even directly asked you if you took the external skill into account.

facepalm
I'm going to point you to this guilde because this answers your question:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=796195988
In it, the breakpoint to one tap a Taser is 239. Akimbo pistols which deal 219 damage per shot (after Trigger Happy) will not one tap Tasers without help from an external skill like Underdog.

[Fugu]

Originally posted by Terminator01:

Who cares about breakpoints if this is easily possible?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1318598356&fileuploadsuccess=1

The minigun dozer makes up a tiny amount of overall enemy composition. Against commons the castigos are guaranteed to waste ammo since two shots are fired per click but at most one enemy will die.

[Jostabeere]

Originally posted by DatMageDoe:

Originally posted by Jostabeere:

OP says with Trigger Happy, an external skill, and I even directly asked you if you took the external skill into account.

facepalm
I'm going to point you to this guilde because this answers your question:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=796195988
In it, the breakpoint to one tap a Taser is 239. Akimbo pistols which deal 219 damage per shot (after Trigger Happy) will not one tap Tasers without help from an external skill like Underdog.

I am looking at that guide. Where I got the number 479.07 for 1 HS Taser on DW.

Okay. It was a misleading part from me in the OP, sorry.
I mean. If a single pistol does 218 base damage, additionally gets the Trigger happy bonus of 120%, raising its damage to 479.6 will onehit a Taser or Akimbos with a base damage of 108 (2 shots per trigger pull) with a raised damage to 479,6 with trigger happy bonus of 120% will Oneshot a Taser.
Either I am confused by you, or I completely fail to read the BP table.

[Sterling]

Originally posted by Terminator01:

Who cares about breakpoints if this is easily possible?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1318598356&fileuploadsuccess=1

>not using the stryk, which now has zero recoil and an insane fire rate with gun nut aced

[DatMageDoe]

Originally posted by Jostabeere:

Originally posted by DatMageDoe:

facepalm
I'm going to point you to this guilde because this answers your question:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=796195988
In it, the breakpoint to one tap a Taser is 239. Akimbo pistols which deal 219 damage per shot (after Trigger Happy) will not one tap Tasers without help from an external skill like Underdog.

I am looking at that guide. Where I got the number 479.07 for 1 HS Taser on DW.

Okay. It was a misleading part from me in the OP, sorry.
I mean. If a single pistol does 218 base damage, additionally gets the Trigger happy bonus of 120%, raising its damage to 479.6 will onehit a Taser or Akimbos with a base damage of 108 (2 shots per trigger pull) with a raised damage to 479,6 with trigger happy bonus of 120% will Oneshot a Taser.
Either I am confused by you, or I completely fail to read the BP table.

The way you had it worded made me think you had an Akimbo which, after Trigger Happy, was dealing 219 damage per shot. It didn't sound like at all like the base damage (before Trigger Happy) was 219.

If the latter is the case (it's 219 dmg/shot pistols), then you've answered your own question, being that you can one tap Tasers with the help of Trigger Happy.

[Fugu]

Originally posted by Jostabeere:

Originally posted by DatMageDoe:

facepalm
I'm going to point you to this guilde because this answers your question:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=796195988
In it, the breakpoint to one tap a Taser is 239. Akimbo pistols which deal 219 damage per shot (after Trigger Happy) will not one tap Tasers without help from an external skill like Underdog.

I am looking at that guide. Where I got the number 479.07 for 1 HS Taser on DW.

Okay. It was a misleading part from me in the OP, sorry.
I mean. If a single pistol does 218 base damage, additionally gets the Trigger happy bonus of 120%, raising its damage to 479.6 will onehit a Taser or Akimbos with a base damage of 108 (2 shots per trigger pull) with a raised damage to 479,6 with trigger happy bonus of 120% will Oneshot a Taser.
Either I am confused by you, or I completely fail to read the BP table.

To put it simply, the akimbo deagles and castigos will kill a tazer in one click while trigger happy is active. Everything else will not.

[Terminator01]

Originally posted by Fugu:

Originally posted by Terminator01:

Who cares about breakpoints if this is easily possible?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1318598356&fileuploadsuccess=1

The minigun dozer makes up a tiny amount of overall enemy composition. Against commons the castigos are guaranteed to waste ammo since two shots are fired per click but at most one enemy will die.

Check the secondary.

Also with both weapons you can easily manage your ammo.

[Jostabeere]

Originally posted by DatMageDoe:

The way you had it worded made me think you had an Akimbo which, after Trigger Happy, was dealing 219 damage per shot. It didn't sound like at all like the base damage (before Trigger Happy) was 219.

If the latter is the case (it's 219 dmg/shot pistols), then you've answered your own question, being that you can one tap Tasers with the help of Trigger Happy.

To quote myself: "pistol with 218 or akimbos with 109 base damage"
I kinda expecter that I've answered my own question, yet wanted to be safe and he what other say about my calculations.

Originally posted by Fugu:

To put it simply, the akimbo deagles and castigos will kill a tazer in one click while trigger happy is active. Everything else will not.

Asked this mainly because of Deagles. Castigos are too meh for me. No lasers and horrendous pickup. Granted, Deagles ain't that good, too.

Originally posted by Terminator01:

Check the secondary.

Also with both weapons you can easily manage your ammo.

Isn't the pickup of the small german thing bad?