Rogue vs Crook?

[V-Fib]

Which perk deck is generally superior for surviving?

[Sir Tontonolous]

Rogue is the "meta" build, since it has the highest dodge chance. Since you have so much dodge, you can brute force even the hardest missions and eventually make it while taking very little damage.

Crook, on the other hand, is run by people that like low concealment, high mobility builds, but don't trust dodge in the slightest.

[Zero [HU][VR]]

Crook needs a lot more skill point investment to use its armor. Up to DW it's fine even better than Rogue, but on DSOD its ~135 armor breaks in one hit just like Rogue's 20.

[Noo_Billy]

It depends on the difficulty.
Crook is as good as rouge on Death Wish or below difficulties but Crook is nearly useless on Death Sentence.

[marijn211]

Crook is bad on most difficulties, go with rogue

It's armor is too low for low difficulties
It's dodge is too low for high difficulties

~Mayhem/DW is doable but rogue is better

[Fed]

Originally posted by V-Fib:

Which perk deck is generally superior for surviving?

rogue for death sentence, crook dies in the same amount of shots so it's pointless to take on that difficulty. Death wish and below it's viable

[Stret]

Rogue somewhat sucks at DS. I dont know if people still use it because they're bad to use a real deck or something, but since they changed a lot with dodge and grace period its basically RNG over skill.

Rogue is overall better at DS still, and i feel like crook is a way more fun and better option for DW and below

If you want a real DS deck get anarchist or stoic

[Drapichrust]

Crook is OK only for low difficulties. Rogue is pretty good but Sicario is noticeably better - higher dodge chance.

[Johny_Geth]

Originally posted by Stret1311:

Rogue somewhat sucks at DS. I dont know if people still use it because they're bad to use a real deck or something

Looks like someone sucks in using rogue deck, lol.

[Stret]

Originally posted by Johny_Geth:

Originally posted by Stret1311:

Rogue somewhat sucks at DS. I dont know if people still use it because they're bad to use a real deck or something

Looks like someone sucks in using rogue deck, lol.

yeah like 2\3 of people i see getting killed constantly using Rogue

Dude. Rogue is basically RNG. Skill helps? Yes. Does it have still have RNG? yes.

If you want to actually rely on skill go get anarchist or something, even kingpin, as long as its a real deck not RNG reliance

[marijn211]

I like my rogue RNG

[Duke]

Originally posted by Sir Tontonolous Macouten™:

Crook, on the other hand, is run by people that like low concealment, high mobility builds, but don't trust dodge in the slightest.

>doesn't trust dodge
>uses Crook
You wot mate? Just use Armorer then.

[marijn211]

Originally posted by Duke:

Originally posted by Sir Tontonolous Macouten™:

Crook, on the other hand, is run by people that like low concealment, high mobility builds, but don't trust dodge in the slightest.

>doesn't trust dodge
>uses Crook
You wot mate? Just use Armorer then.

This, the low dodge is quite worthless

[Zero [HU][VR]]

Originally posted by marijn211 Away:

Originally posted by Duke:

>doesn't trust dodge
>uses Crook
You wot mate? Just use Armorer then.

This, the low dodge is quite worthless

It's not that low. It's 45, against Rogue's 60. It still deflects roughly half the incoming fire.
It's better than Rogue up to Death Wish.

[marijn211]

Originally posted by Zero HUVR:

Originally posted by marijn211 Away:

This, the low dodge is quite worthless

It's not that low. It's 45, against Rogue's 60. It still deflects roughly half the incoming fire.
It's better than Rogue up to Death Wish.

Wouldn't say death wish, armor gets irritating on mayhem already
(Never 100% sure because I only play OVK and DS)

[Johny_Geth]

Originally posted by Stret1311:

Originally posted by Johny_Geth:

Looks like someone sucks in using rogue deck, lol.

yeah like 2\3 of people i see getting killed constantly using Rogue

Dude. Rogue is basically RNG. Skill helps? Yes. Does it have still have RNG? yes.

If you want to actually rely on skill go get anarchist or something, even kingpin, as long as its a real deck not RNG reliance

You know, dude, im already got my OD mask, so i have some expirience with this game. And for map with open spaces dodge works a lot better then armor. Save your "hurr durr skill hurr durr rng" for noobs who cares. Rogue is one of the best decks in game, period.