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Kopzo Nov 30, 2017 @ 9:44am
AIRBOW CONCEALMENT
Does anyone know what happened with airbow concealment? its only 6 now
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Xed Nov 30, 2017 @ 8:31pm 
Originally posted by E3kHatena:
They fixed it so a massive bunch of pipes and arrows is actually as concealed as it'd be in real life.
This is what we call a "Video game" my boy, it's where we go to escape real life.
Shirosakura Nov 30, 2017 @ 8:34pm 
I wished they made it so we had to take a secondary with 33 concealment to make it work with dodge instead of the current 5 concealment weapon.
Jostabeere Nov 30, 2017 @ 9:37pm 
Originally posted by kylewhitford1:
Originally posted by Gambler:
That weapon was overpowered, of course they would nerf it.
Ya....In Loud. it wasnt OP in stealth. i ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ loved the thing in stealth and now its worthless. welp. back to akimbo pistols....♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Overkill.
It's not like you can't use a light crossbow. Oh wait, you can. It's just not as strong as the Airbow. No scope, no magazine, longer reloads.
Harokai Dec 1, 2017 @ 1:33am 
cry babies, adapt, evolve.
Madinogi Dec 1, 2017 @ 9:01am 
Originally posted by Jostabeere:
Originally posted by kylewhitford1:
Ya....In Loud. it wasnt OP in stealth. i ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ loved the thing in stealth and now its worthless. welp. back to akimbo pistols....♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Overkill.
It's not like you can't use a light crossbow. Oh wait, you can. It's just not as strong as the Airbow. No scope, no magazine, longer reloads.

i actully liked the airbow. but ya it was overpowered in loud so why make it unusable in stealth?
oh right because the developers are incompetant.

Employee 1: hmm the weapons a 1 shot in the head on one down. shouldnt we nerf the damage?
Employee 2: Naaaah ♥♥♥ Dat. nerf the concealment.
Employee 1: ....
Rokk Dec 1, 2017 @ 9:03am 
The airbow isn't meant to be used in stealth, hence the high damage.

If you really want a stealth bow, try the Light Crossbow, Pistol Crossbow or the regular bows instead.

The airbow's concealment was nerfed because of crits, basically. They could have reduced the damage instead, but that would probably contribute to the dodge meta a bit too much.
Last edited by Rokk; Dec 1, 2017 @ 9:03am
Madinogi Dec 1, 2017 @ 9:04am 
Overkill remind me of Bungie.

Bungie employee 1: Ok so Handcannons have too good of range. we should lower that.
Bungie Employee 2: so, Nerf the fusion rifles? ON IT.
Bungie Employee 1: NO WAI....
Madinogi Dec 1, 2017 @ 9:05am 
Originally posted by Rokk:
The airbow isn't meant to be used in stealth, hence the high damage.

If you really want a stealth bow, try the Light Crossbow, Pistol Crossbow or the regular bows instead.

The airbow's concealment was nerfed because of crits, basically. They could have reduced the damage instead, but that would probably contribute to the dodge meta a bit too much.

i liked the Airbow because it was a fun weapon to use. a belt fed bow. but then again OK despise stealth players.
Jostabeere Dec 1, 2017 @ 9:22am 
Originally posted by kylewhitford1:
Originally posted by Jostabeere:
It's not like you can't use a light crossbow. Oh wait, you can. It's just not as strong as the Airbow. No scope, no magazine, longer reloads.

i actully liked the airbow. but ya it was overpowered in loud so why make it unusable in stealth?
oh right because the developers are incompetant.

Employee 1: hmm the weapons a 1 shot in the head on one down. shouldnt we nerf the damage?
Employee 2: Naaaah ♥♥♥ Dat. nerf the concealment.
Employee 1: ....
It was not overpowered in loud per se. It was overpowered in stealth/dodge loud. It surpassed any other bow/scorssbow, making them useless and many other weapons.
It was the top stealth primary that you could use in any heist.
-kill any guard on any difficulty within a shot. Silenced.
-scope for long range kills
-doesn't need Silencer skills for OHK on alarmed 720 HP guards.

For example Scarface Mansion. You need the Grom. You need a scope with a range meter to see how far the outside guards are from a camera so you can kill the 20 or so outside without alarms.
You cannot sneak kill and bag them all. You need Grom again to headshot them if they're alarmed. And they will be alarmed from killing other guards.
Grom has a concealment of 25 with boost and mods and skills. And you need silencer skills to even make it useable. you need the accuracy so not every shot is a miss and you need damage to OHK 720 HP guards. Airbow was almost twice as strong.
Investigate 3-11 Dec 1, 2017 @ 9:42am 
Originally posted by Jostabeere:
Originally posted by kylewhitford1:

i actully liked the airbow. but ya it was overpowered in loud so why make it unusable in stealth?
oh right because the developers are incompetant.

Employee 1: hmm the weapons a 1 shot in the head on one down. shouldnt we nerf the damage?
Employee 2: Naaaah ♥♥♥ Dat. nerf the concealment.
Employee 1: ....
It was not overpowered in loud per se. It was overpowered in stealth/dodge loud. It surpassed any other bow/scorssbow, making them useless and many other weapons.
It was the top stealth primary that you could use in any heist.
-kill any guard on any difficulty within a shot. Silenced.
-scope for long range kills
-doesn't need Silencer skills for OHK on alarmed 720 HP guards.

For example Scarface Mansion. You need the Grom. You need a scope with a range meter to see how far the outside guards are from a camera so you can kill the 20 or so outside without alarms.
You cannot sneak kill and bag them all. You need Grom again to headshot them if they're alarmed. And they will be alarmed from killing other guards.
Grom has a concealment of 25 with boost and mods and skills. And you need silencer skills to even make it useable. you need the accuracy so not every shot is a miss and you need damage to OHK 720 HP guards. Airbow was almost twice as strong.
You don't need the grom for outside guards, just a shotgun to body launch into undetectable areas or the water
Madinogi Dec 1, 2017 @ 1:12pm 
Originally posted by Jostabeere:
Originally posted by kylewhitford1:

i actully liked the airbow. but ya it was overpowered in loud so why make it unusable in stealth?
oh right because the developers are incompetant.

Employee 1: hmm the weapons a 1 shot in the head on one down. shouldnt we nerf the damage?
Employee 2: Naaaah ♥♥♥ Dat. nerf the concealment.
Employee 1: ....
It was not overpowered in loud per se. It was overpowered in stealth/dodge loud. It surpassed any other bow/scorssbow, making them useless and many other weapons.
It was the top stealth primary that you could use in any heist.
-kill any guard on any difficulty within a shot. Silenced.
-scope for long range kills
-doesn't need Silencer skills for OHK on alarmed 720 HP guards.

For example Scarface Mansion. You need the Grom. You need a scope with a range meter to see how far the outside guards are from a camera so you can kill the 20 or so outside without alarms.
You cannot sneak kill and bag them all. You need Grom again to headshot them if they're alarmed. And they will be alarmed from killing other guards.
Grom has a concealment of 25 with boost and mods and skills. And you need silencer skills to even make it useable. you need the accuracy so not every shot is a miss and you need damage to OHK 720 HP guards. Airbow was almost twice as strong.
Are you stupid? Serious question. any and all weapons are OHK on stealth. why is it that the airbow needs a nerf because it also was OHK. and if it truely is that powerful again it only solidifies my stance that they need to revert the change and instead nerf the damage only,
Raven Dec 28, 2017 @ 7:17pm 
Originally posted by Kopzo:
Does anyone know what happened with airbow concealment? its only 6 now
who cares the h3h3 dlc is fu**ing garbage you shouldn't buy it :steamsalty:
Last edited by Raven; Dec 28, 2017 @ 7:17pm
Lemaouman Dec 28, 2017 @ 7:21pm 
Originally posted by Tiger's Blood:
Originally posted by Kopzo:
Does anyone know what happened with airbow concealment? its only 6 now
who cares the h3h3 dlc is fu**ing garbage you shouldn't buy it :steamsalty:
nice bump
BBing Dec 28, 2017 @ 8:06pm 
RIP Airbow pack. I did burn my 5 bucks. RIP 5 bucks.
among us balls Dec 28, 2017 @ 8:08pm 
Originally posted by Tiger's Blood:
Originally posted by Kopzo:
Does anyone know what happened with airbow concealment? its only 6 now
who cares the h3h3 dlc is fu**ing garbage you shouldn't buy it :steamsalty:
Why did you necro a thread that already got necroed.
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