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Ketsedo Oct 4, 2017 @ 2:37pm
UAR better than CAR-4?
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effie 🌺 Oct 4, 2017 @ 2:38pm 
nah
DatMageDoe Oct 4, 2017 @ 2:38pm 
Without DLC, absolutely.
With it, however, the UAR is blown out of the water in virtually every front by a similarly modded CAR-4.
Lemushki Oct 4, 2017 @ 2:39pm 
Dependig on how you conpare them UAR is a nice not dlc weapon. The Car 4 can be more versatile but needs dlc. Also the Uar is better in what it is suppoused to do in my opinion than the Car-4 but this one is versatile indeed
Greb Oct 4, 2017 @ 3:02pm 
The CAR-4 has amazing versatility that lets it fit into pretty much every build, and also comes with some nice skins as well, lol. I've managed to fit a DMR kitted CAR-4 into a 4 concealment lowblow sneakyb rogue meta-as-hell-but-I-don't-care One Down build. It's just THE AR, so sickeningly the best choice in every situation if you're building into AR's, it's horrible.

With DLC anyway. Bonus points if you take Royal Blue skin and play as Sydney with a blue mask as well.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1157955034
UAR looks nice though, but it's not suited for fitting in every build ever like the CAR-4 is. I do like Peacekeeper Blue skin though :steammocking: also it doesn't get a DMR kit, and you know what that means. IT'S SUB PAR. Aparently.

Also the CAR-4 has nice iron sights. And a speed pull magazine. And also has random mods that don't do anything but just pad out its stats even more like the THRUST lower receiver that display amazing levels of favouritism from Overkill, lol. Looks badas with the THRUST upper receiver too!

It's like all the resources for making weapon mods for DLC weapons got spent making mods for the CAR-4, always depressing when guns like the Little Friend come out and they have literally no mods. Should be a LAW that every weapon has at least two mods for each specific area, magazine/stock/barrel/grip etc. :steammocking:

UAR = Unloved Assault Rifle?

CAR = Customisable Assault Rifle?

I think so :syminactive:
Last edited by Greb; Oct 4, 2017 @ 3:13pm
Ricken Oct 4, 2017 @ 4:04pm 
CAR is amazing with DLCs. It can fit pretty much any role you want because it's versatile. It can be concealable (can reach 30 max I think) or a high-efficiency DMR... and if you mod it right, it might be both.

UAR is way better for the non-UE players though. Most UAR mods are available to everyone, and with them, you can make a fairly good 40-damage AR with meh concealment.
uNorthodoX Oct 4, 2017 @ 4:38pm 
CAR4 is more concealable, but it's kinda meh for a 40 damage rifle since it has low RoF and just alright stats (With DLC). UAR has better acc/stab (IIRC) but can't be as concealable, but can work alright without DLC

DMR4 is just leagues above the UAR
OKMB Oct 4, 2017 @ 4:51pm 
CAR 4 has extreme versatility. It's one of the best DLC guns in the game.
However, the UAR does far better as an AR. UAR can achieve a higher accuracy and stability than any CAR 4 I've ever made (as an AR). The UAR also has a better fire rate, as it has upward of 700, where the CAR 4 has 600 flat. I also believe that the UAR has slightly higher damage than an AR CAR 4.
On top of that, aesthetics wise, the UAR just looks better than the CAR. The CAR is just kind of meh in its looks, and I haven't found many skins for it I really like.

In short, if you want a good DMR or Stealth primary, CAR 4 is your gun. The UAR, however, preforms better as an AR.
EpicallyEvil Oct 4, 2017 @ 6:41pm 
Originally posted by Greb:
The CAR-4 has amazing versatility that lets it fit into pretty much every build, and also comes with some nice skins as well, lol. I've managed to fit a DMR kitted CAR-4 into a 4 concealment lowblow sneakyb rogue meta-as-hell-but-I-don't-care One Down build. It's just THE AR, so sickeningly the best choice in every situation if you're building into AR's, it's horrible.

With DLC anyway. Bonus points if you take Royal Blue skin and play as Sydney with a blue mask as well.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1157955034
UAR looks nice though, but it's not suited for fitting in every build ever like the CAR-4 is. I do like Peacekeeper Blue skin though :steammocking: also it doesn't get a DMR kit, and you know what that means. IT'S SUB PAR. Aparently.

Also the CAR-4 has nice iron sights. And a speed pull magazine. And also has random mods that don't do anything but just pad out its stats even more like the THRUST lower receiver that display amazing levels of favouritism from Overkill, lol. Looks badas with the THRUST upper receiver too!

It's like all the resources for making weapon mods for DLC weapons got spent making mods for the CAR-4, always depressing when guns like the Little Friend come out and they have literally no mods. Should be a LAW that every weapon has at least two mods for each specific area, magazine/stock/barrel/grip etc. :steammocking:

UAR = Unloved Assault Rifle?

CAR = Customisable Assault Rifle?

I think so :syminactive:
Noooooooooooooooo! The Nitro is the best CAR-4 skin :c Although I do own the Royal Blue, Danger Ahead and Special Force skins also.

Edit: Also have the Peacekeeper Blue as main UAR skin ;)
Last edited by EpicallyEvil; Oct 4, 2017 @ 6:42pm
Greb Oct 4, 2017 @ 6:47pm 
Originally posted by EpicallyEvil:
Noooooooooooooooo! The Nitro is the best CAR-4 skin :c
I don't like my weapon skins to be louder than the alarm going off lol :steammocking: although I did use a sniper skin once or twice? Forget which one it is now, think I've sold it, red tier skin, had tentacles on it? Or something.

CTHULHU!
Last edited by Greb; Oct 4, 2017 @ 6:47pm
FireDrake Oct 4, 2017 @ 6:59pm 
Originally posted by Greb:
Originally posted by EpicallyEvil:
Noooooooooooooooo! The Nitro is the best CAR-4 skin :c
I don't like my weapon skins to be louder than the alarm going off lol :steammocking: although I did use a sniper skin once or twice? Forget which one it is now, think I've sold it, red tier skin, had tentacles on it? Or something.

CTHULHU!
Platypus Star Spawn. Wanted one for a while until the R93 replaced it in my inventory.

EDIT: On topic, I don't like to place many skill points into flat stat boosts, so my weapons stats are mostly defined by mods. In that respect, as a normal AR, the UAR is better than the CAR-4. Better ROF, better damage even with mods and to reach the UAR's accuracy the CAR-4 has to sacrifice a lot of stability.

However, when modded for concealment for dodge builds, the CAR-4 reigns supreme among ARs in medium to close distance (long means Cavity, and now, Galant). Meanwhile, the UAR's base concealment is ok, but has no mods to increase it, so it's definitely not great.

Plus, as a DMR, the CAR-4 and the AK are the most versatile DMRs in the game, and people on these forums prefer mostly the american one. These are really a life saver on high difficulties, while the UAR is much more difficult to get kills with.
Last edited by FireDrake; Oct 4, 2017 @ 7:07pm
Greb Oct 4, 2017 @ 7:02pm 
Sounds about right :steamhappy: purple tentacles and stuff.

Yep just checked. Epic rarity, Battle-Worn with a stat boost. Sold for 23p on October 1st lol :steammocking: yay for me. I think I bought an Under the Radar for it lol. Totally worth it

Also I prefer the AK.762 and the AK Rifle as my go-to DMR instead of the CAR-4, but the CAR-4 is without a doubt the best allrounder. I can't comfortably make a sub 5 concealment DMR build using anything but the CAR-4, the other DMR's sacrifice too much or don't have as nice iron sights or whatever. Also the AK's have to use a Scope Mount to have a comfortable sight picture, which the CAR-4 doesn't need, thus doesn't "waste" 1 concealment.
Last edited by Greb; Oct 5, 2017 @ 2:45am
StayThyBidding (Banned) Oct 5, 2017 @ 2:37am 
Originally posted by EpicallyEvil:
Originally posted by Greb:
The CAR-4 has amazing versatility that lets it fit into pretty much every build, and also comes with some nice skins as well, lol. I've managed to fit a DMR kitted CAR-4 into a 4 concealment lowblow sneakyb rogue meta-as-hell-but-I-don't-care One Down build. It's just THE AR, so sickeningly the best choice in every situation if you're building into AR's, it's horrible.

With DLC anyway. Bonus points if you take Royal Blue skin and play as Sydney with a blue mask as well.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1157955034
UAR looks nice though, but it's not suited for fitting in every build ever like the CAR-4 is. I do like Peacekeeper Blue skin though :steammocking: also it doesn't get a DMR kit, and you know what that means. IT'S SUB PAR. Aparently.

Also the CAR-4 has nice iron sights. And a speed pull magazine. And also has random mods that don't do anything but just pad out its stats even more like the THRUST lower receiver that display amazing levels of favouritism from Overkill, lol. Looks badas with the THRUST upper receiver too!

It's like all the resources for making weapon mods for DLC weapons got spent making mods for the CAR-4, always depressing when guns like the Little Friend come out and they have literally no mods. Should be a LAW that every weapon has at least two mods for each specific area, magazine/stock/barrel/grip etc. :steammocking:

UAR = Unloved Assault Rifle?

CAR = Customisable Assault Rifle?

I think so :syminactive:
Noooooooooooooooo! The Nitro is the best CAR-4 skin :c Although I do own the Royal Blue, Danger Ahead and Special Force skins also.

Edit: Also have the Peacekeeper Blue as main UAR skin ;)
Safe crasher is the best skin of car-4 XD
Originally posted by EpicallyEvil:
Originally posted by Greb:
The CAR-4 has amazing versatility that lets it fit into pretty much every build, and also comes with some nice skins as well, lol. I've managed to fit a DMR kitted CAR-4 into a 4 concealment lowblow sneakyb rogue meta-as-hell-but-I-don't-care One Down build. It's just THE AR, so sickeningly the best choice in every situation if you're building into AR's, it's horrible.

With DLC anyway. Bonus points if you take Royal Blue skin and play as Sydney with a blue mask as well.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1157955034
UAR looks nice though, but it's not suited for fitting in every build ever like the CAR-4 is. I do like Peacekeeper Blue skin though :steammocking: also it doesn't get a DMR kit, and you know what that means. IT'S SUB PAR. Aparently.

Also the CAR-4 has nice iron sights. And a speed pull magazine. And also has random mods that don't do anything but just pad out its stats even more like the THRUST lower receiver that display amazing levels of favouritism from Overkill, lol. Looks badas with the THRUST upper receiver too!

It's like all the resources for making weapon mods for DLC weapons got spent making mods for the CAR-4, always depressing when guns like the Little Friend come out and they have literally no mods. Should be a LAW that every weapon has at least two mods for each specific area, magazine/stock/barrel/grip etc. :steammocking:

UAR = Unloved Assault Rifle?

CAR = Customisable Assault Rifle?

I think so :syminactive:
Noooooooooooooooo! The Nitro is the best CAR-4 skin :c Although I do own the Royal Blue, Danger Ahead and Special Force skins also.

Edit: Also have the Peacekeeper Blue as main UAR skin ;)
Thats a lie, safe crasher is dah best
Lul.
creamcone Oct 5, 2017 @ 10:38am 
UAR has awful recoil, even with 100 stability.
CAR has no problems with it (although its accuracy sucks most of the time) and can reach very high concealment (even with DMR kit).
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