Judge concealment at 3

[Canyon]

I used to have my concealment at 3 with the judge (with suppressor) but I can't remember how, now that i've infamied. Anybody have their concealemt down to 3 with a suppressed judge? thanks

[effie 🌺]

inner pockets and optical illusions (aced) in the ghost tree increase concealment
judge + those skills + a decently high-concealment primary should get you to three detection

[[弾幕の伝説]Mobius]

Concealment 3 requires you to use all the low concealment mods, such as scopes, barrels like the Shark Teeth and so on and forth.

[Canyon]

Originally posted by 伝説の弾幕 Mobius:

Concealment 3 requires you to use all the low concealment mods, such as scopes, barrels like the Shark Teeth and so on and forth.

That can't be true, i know I had a suppressor on it while 3 concealment at some point.... Maybe not on the gun itself, but my build had 3

[Canyon]

Originally posted by 伝説の弾幕 Mobius:

Concealment 3 requires you to use all the low concealment mods, such as scopes, barrels like the Shark Teeth and so on and forth.

Thank you! I completely glossed over "optical illusions" I can't beleive I overlooked it lol

[EnforcerKiller]

Originally posted by The Grand Canyon:

Originally posted by 伝説の弾幕 Mobius:

Concealment 3 requires you to use all the low concealment mods, such as scopes, barrels like the Shark Teeth and so on and forth.

Thank you! I completely glossed over "optical illusions" I can't beleive I overlooked it lol

So... were you actually going for 3 detection rate or concealment?

[Canyon]

Originally posted by EnforcerKiller:

Originally posted by The Grand Canyon:

Thank you! I completely glossed over "optical illusions" I can't beleive I overlooked it lol

So... were you actually going for 3 detection rate or concealment?

Yea, I just havn't played in a while and i guess I missed that one when I was reading through the skill trees

[Darth Cannabis]

Sorry to nitpick on terminology, but what you are talking about is detection level.

Concealment is a number on weapon you want higher, to result in lower detection.

Detection, is the number on circle that you want low. The Concealment of a weapon to result in low detection it actually a higher number. The most concealed weapons are 32 concealment (30+2 from skill, inner pockets for melee, or the skill for silencers that adds cocealment) which then results in low detection. 3 concealement on weapon should be max detection or damn close, just for that weapon alone.

So, Detection Level= number on character you want low for sneaky.

Concealment= number on weapon that you want higher, to result in lower detection level for sneaking.

Get it right.

Sorry again, but between steam dl issues and not being able to pay PD2 for 3 days now, and people continually doing this one, it went from minor annoyance to driving me crazy.

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[Canyon]

Originally posted by Darth Cannabis:

Sorry to nitpick on terminology, but what you are talking about is detection level.

Concealment is a number on weapon you want higher, to result in lower detection.

Detection, is the number on circle that you want low. The Concealment of a weapon to result in low detection it actually a higher number. The most concealed weapons are 32 concealment (30+2 from skill, inner pockets for melee, or the skill for silencers that adds cocealment) which then results in low detection. 3 concealement on weapon should be max detection or damn close, just for that weapon alone.

So, Detection Level= number on character you want low for sneaky.

Concealment= number on weapon that you want higher, to result in lower detection level for sneaking.

Get it right.

Sorry again, but between steam dl issues and not being able to pay PD2 for 3 days now, and people continually doing this one, it went from minor annoyance to driving me crazy.

That help in clearing things up, thanks. Yea, what I was talking about was my detectoin level, the number on my character

[Rjazz]

Originally posted by Darth Cannabis:

Sorry to nitpick on terminology, but what you are talking about is detection level.

Concealment is a number on weapon you want higher, to result in lower detection.

Detection, is the number on circle that you want low. The Concealment of a weapon to result in low detection it actually a higher number. The most concealed weapons are 32 concealment (30+2 from skill, inner pockets for melee, or the skill for silencers that adds cocealment) which then results in low detection.

So, Detection Level= number on character you want low for sneaky.

Concealment= number on weapon that you want higher, to result in lower detection level for sneaking.

Get it right.

Actually, concealment can go higher in some cases. The Bernetti and the Gruber Kurz, using optical illusions aced, a suppressor with concealment debuff in the range [-2,0] (to benefit from optical illusions), and a +3 concealment boost (unique to specific pistols, including those two), you can boost its concealment up to 34. It's allowed me to carry lower concealment primaries like the akimbo krinkovs (modded without concealment in mind) or the nagant (modded for concealment) with crits.

Unfortunately for OP, the Judge and the Bernetti both occupy the secondary slot. It's good to keep in mind, though.

[Darth Cannabis]

Originally posted by Rjazz - Finals Be A-Comin':

Originally posted by Darth Cannabis:

Sorry to nitpick on terminology, but what you are talking about is detection level.

Concealment is a number on weapon you want higher, to result in lower detection.

Detection, is the number on circle that you want low. The Concealment of a weapon to result in low detection it actually a higher number. The most concealed weapons are 32 concealment (30+2 from skill, inner pockets for melee, or the skill for silencers that adds cocealment) which then results in low detection.

So, Detection Level= number on character you want low for sneaky.

Concealment= number on weapon that you want higher, to result in lower detection level for sneaking.

Get it right.

Actually, concealment can go higher in some cases. The Bernetti and the Gruber Kurz, using optical illusions aced, a suppressor with concealment debuff in the range [-2,0] (to benefit from optical illusions), and a +3 concealment boost (unique to specific pistols, including those two), you can boost its concealment up to 34. It's allowed me to carry lower concealment primaries like the akimbo krinkovs (modded without concealment in mind) or the nagant (modded for concealment) with crits.

Unfortunately for OP, the Judge and the Bernetti both occupy the secondary slot. It's good to keep in mind, though.

Ah yes, I forgot entirely about those additional boosts. Thanks for reminder.

[puzzlefox]

Originally posted by 󠁦:

optical illusions (aced)

This is why Dodge is crap. don't take this skill.

[Canyon]

Originally posted by puzzlefox:

Originally posted by 󠁦:

optical illusions (aced)

This is why Dodge is crap. don't take this skill.

This isn't for a dodge set

[Hassat Hunter]

It's good for stealth (broken, but good).
Basic is just a total affront though.

[puzzlefox]

Originally posted by The Grand Canyon:

Originally posted by puzzlefox:

This is why Dodge is crap. don't take this skill.

This isn't for a dodge set

Oh yeah stealth. I often forget that even exists.