Boosters and car4?

[Bambi🦌]

I cant find any description about boosters. How to obtain etc. I saw a car 4 with highest concealmetn. How?
like car 4 = 3 detection. I need guide to make car 4 invisible gun.

[IAmDouda97]

You get boosts just like any weapon mod, in the cards.

To make a concealed car 4, just put every concealement-increasing mod on it

[JIMTOMAV]

make sure you know the difference between "concelament" and "Detection Rating (DR)"
to save confusion when talking about them.

concelament is how well you can hide a weapon.
higher values are better and you are generaly looking at a minimum of 27 for a stealth weapon.

DR is how easy it is for enemies to spot you in stealth.
lower values are better and the minimum value is 3
this shows when you are in your inventory as a blue or orange number with blue to orange around it.



to your question

i assume you are talking about "stat boosts"
these are simmalar to weapon modifications and attatchments but do not effect the apperance of your weapon and give a small stat boost (as the mane implies)

there are 2 boosts for concelament.
the first can be applied to any weapon and increases the value by 1
the second can only be applied to the berreta, PP and magnum (IRL names, cant remember in-game names)

a single boost can be obtained from the monthly side job.

alternativly they will drop from payday cards.
the chance will increase as you play the game.

as is with attatchments, you can only have 2 in stock unless you unequip some.
this means that once you have 2 of each atatchment (in stock) you will no longer get them from card drops and will only get boosts in their place.
once you have 2 of each boost (in stock) you will also stop getting those as well.



the car 4 is one of the best stealth guns since its concelament can reach a maximum of 31 without skills.
this is the highest value a primary weapon can obtain, joint with several others.
however it requires a large ammount of mods to reach this.

it would be more advisable to use an akimbo since many of them start on 30 concelament and can be gotten to 31 with a single boost.


the most concealed weapon is the three pistols mentioned before, all with a maximum of 33 without skills.



my advise would be to simply use an akimbo and dont add any mods unless you have a boost, or silencers that dont decrease concelament.
you dont even need to silence your primary as long as your secondary has one.

[Prusak]

The Clarion rifle (Famas) also takes +3 Concealment boosts

[JIMTOMAV]

Originally posted by Prusak:

The Clarion rifle (Famas) also takes +3 Concealment boosts

curses, so it does.

great..........now i need to rearange 2+ pages of my stealth weapons to put it back in order of concelament.

[Bambi🦌]

But to talk about car 4. I have all mods, yet 27 concealment.

[Sir Duckyweather]

Originally posted by Harsh Winter:

But to talk about car 4. I have all mods, yet 27 concealment.

I just messed around on http://pd2weapons.com/ and made a CAR-4 with a concealment of 31, or 32 with a suppressor and Optical Illusions skill Aced. Check it out and see if you can make the weapon how you want it. Go to the Weapons tab, find the gun, click the check box on the left of it, then click Customize above the list. Mind you, the weapon is absolutely terrible for combat if you max out its concealment, but the options are there. Me, I prefer just using a Plainsrider bow for my stealth primary.

[JIMTOMAV]

Originally posted by Sir Duckyweather:

Originally posted by Harsh Winter:

But to talk about car 4. I have all mods, yet 27 concealment.

I just messed around on http://pd2weapons.com/ and made a CAR-4 with a concealment of 31, or 32 with a suppressor and Optical Illusions skill Aced. Check it out and see if you can make the weapon how you want it. Go to the Weapons tab, find the gun, click the check box on the left of it, then click Customize above the list. Mind you, the weapon is absolutely terrible for combat if you max out its concealment, but the options are there. Me, I prefer just using a Plainsrider bow for my stealth primary.

the max without skills is deffinately 31

however i am not sure if you can get it without DLC
you may need the gage courier pack or the butchers mod pack for the fore grip.


car 4 can reach max concelament but its not the best stealth weapon by a long shot.
it requires more mods than probobly any other gun to reach its max.
this means you need to be lucky with the card drops or grind a bunch.
you also loose a lot of performance due to the concelament mods.

you can get the rayven to 29 with only 2 atatchments
both of which come from reletivly easy achivments.

or just use an akimbo.
half of the akimbo pistols start with 30 conclement anyway.

valcary assult rifle can also reach 30 with 1 attatchment or 31 with 1 atatchment and a boost.


and if you get a high conclemanet secondary (very easy) then you dont even need to max the conclemanet on your primary to reach 3 DR anyway.


there is a very long list of weapons you can get to 3 DR with.
the list of weapons you cant get to 3 DR is much shorter.

secondarys
: kross vertex
: everything in the special page short of the crossbow pistol
: street sweeper
: goliath

primarys
: M308
: Eagle heavy
: little freind
: predator
: reinfeild
: IZHMA
: steakout
: breaker
: all specials exept the GL40, bows and crossbows
: all snipers
: all LMGs


all the rest can reach 3 DR with the right mods and skills.
so some of the ones that can are
: all but 3 assult rifles
: all akimbos
: half the shotguns
: all but 1 SMG
: all pistols



you are deffinately not stuck for choice.

[Heroic Sheperd]

Originally posted by The Mad Doctor:

Dood, if I can bring M308 into stealth with under 10 concealment, so can you.

You also have 800+ hours more than he does, which means you have a huge variety of weapons attachments to use that he doesn't yet have access to.

He can get those options eventually, but for now sticking to Akimbo or Plainsrider and a light pistol is probably his best bet for stealth, until he builds up his inventory a bit more.

[JIMTOMAV]

Originally posted by « TGH » Heroic Sheperd:

Originally posted by The Mad Doctor:

Dood, if I can bring M308 into stealth with under 10 concealment, so can you.

You also have 800+ hours more than he does, which means you have a huge variety of weapons attachments to use that he doesn't yet have access to.

He can get those options eventually, but for now sticking to Akimbo or Plainsrider and a light pistol is probably his best bet for stealth, until he builds up his inventory a bit more.

assuming he dosent have DLC then he wont have the bow.

there are at least 3 akimbos that start with 30 concelament.
and also a large number of the pistols.


gone are the days were you needed hitman to equip akimbo.

[Bambi🦌]

Omg wtf. I knew about akimbo since my first hours in game. I dont like pistols. I wanna cute gun
<3

[JIMTOMAV]

Originally posted by Harsh Winter:

Omg wtf. I knew about akimbo since my first hours in game. I dont like pistols. I wanna cute gun
<3

what weapon DLCs do you have?

do you have any of the following?
: sokol pack
: shotgun pack
: historical pack
: western pack

because all contain weapon that can reach 30 or 29 conclemant (without skills) far easier than the car4.

[Yajla]

My car4 has 30 concealment without skills and cc bonus

[JIMTOMAV]

Originally posted by Yajla:

My car4 has 30 concealment without skills and cc bonus

you can get a max of 31 without skills.

[Yajla]

Originally posted by JIMTOMAV:

Originally posted by Yajla:

My car4 has 30 concealment without skills and cc bonus

you can get a max of 31 without skills.

how? Without concealment boost?

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/::w10-43-26-2-25-4-51::
Barrel: Short Barrel
Barrel Ext: Low Profile Suppressor
Foregrip: E.M.O. Foregrip
Grip: Straight Grip
Magazine: Vintage Mag
Stock: Folding Stock

[JIMTOMAV]

Originally posted by Yajla:

Originally posted by JIMTOMAV:

you can get a max of 31 without skills.

how? Without concealment boost?

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/::w10-43-26-2-25-4-51::
Barrel: Short Barrel
Barrel Ext: Low Profile Suppressor
Foregrip: E.M.O. Foregrip
Grip: Straight Grip
Magazine: Vintage Mag
Stock: Folding Stock

thats with the boost

you were not very clear that you meant 30 without
"cc bonus"
never heard it reffered to as that before.

cc boost would have been closer.


but yes, without a boost the max you can get is 30.