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Why people use NGBTO
For those who don't know,NGBTO (Newbies Go Back To Overkill) is a mod which lets you choose a series of rules/requirements people need to join your lobby
For example : I want people with over X amount of hours to join my lobby.
NGBTO will automatically kick people with less hours than X.
Thats the primary use for it.
Now,why do people use it?
Im going to give you an example.
You're in a match with 2 other people,you all are pros,not even a 9 year old minecraft pvper can stop you.
The match is extremely hard(one down),you're hoping for someone to join and help you
And what you get?
A guy with 50 hours that gets downed every 5 seconds and then into custody...
People want to prevent a newbie to join and ruin any chance of hope.
Its a dicc move but you'll understand soon when you will be put in a situation like this.
I'll say it myself,I'm not the best player,I'm a pretty,over the average player.
When I brought PAYDAY 2 I knew the basics,because I played the demo.
And I swore I would never touch something higher than normal difficulty...
I got about 10 hours? I dont remember,and then i started playing on higher difficulties (hard,very hard)
Overkill was still a challenge to me
And then at 180 hours...I think...
I started playing Mayhem,DeathWish.
I wasnt pro at them,I needed a good squad to play it.
So please,don't judge the NGBTO users,they do it for their own good.
And also,check the ghost,dont ask if you can stealth it.
Onedown doesnt mean instant stealth.
Well,that sums it up.
Thanks for reading and I hope you understand.
(a defense to people who use NGBTO)

Last edited by i regret nothing; May 26, 2017 @ 3:50pm
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pho_kko May 26, 2017 @ 3:53pm 
I think using the mod is pretty self-explanatory, tbh.
i regret nothing May 26, 2017 @ 3:53pm 
Originally posted by E99:
I think using the mod is pretty self-explanatory, tbh.
Some people dont get it. +there was a previous discussion about how shi it is
Last edited by i regret nothing; May 26, 2017 @ 3:54pm
nray May 26, 2017 @ 3:57pm 
The mod is also good for banning/blacklisting cheaters/scumbags so you dont have to play with them ever again.
i regret nothing May 26, 2017 @ 4:00pm 
Originally posted by =Gen$ec=nray:
The mod is also good for banning/blacklisting cheaters/scumbags so you dont have to play with them ever again.
I just wanted to point out the hour thingy,which is why 80% of people use the mod in the first place.
Cheggf May 26, 2017 @ 4:02pm 
Originally posted by E99:
I think using the mod is pretty self-explanatory, tbh.
There's a daily forum post about how the mod is so terrible and "WHY DOES ANYONE USE THIS". Because their gameplay experience takes priority over everyone else's, apparently.
Akutare May 26, 2017 @ 4:06pm 
The problem with the mod is that it gives no feedback to the people getting kicked, it even has an option to "hide" the kick I believe by making it look like a disconnect. This basically teaches nothing to the people that NGBTO users want to weed out when it comes to hours or unleveled decks. Why do you think so many "why do I keep getting kicked" threads always keep popping up?
i regret nothing May 26, 2017 @ 4:06pm 
Originally posted by Peanut Butter Moscrel:
Originally posted by E99:
I think using the mod is pretty self-explanatory, tbh.
There's a daily forum post about how the mod is so terrible and "WHY DOES ANYONE USE THIS". Because their gameplay experience takes priority over everyone else's, apparently.
Yep,i tried to explain it,not attack those who attack the mod
i regret nothing May 26, 2017 @ 4:07pm 
Originally posted by Akutare:
The problem with the mod is that it gives no feedback to the people getting kicked, it even has an option to "hide" the kick I believe by making it look like a disconnect. This basically teaches nothing to the people that NGBTO users want to weed out when it comes to hours or unleveled decks. Why do you think so many "why do I keep getting kicked" threads always keep popping up?
Why do you join a watchdogs one down lobby with 5 hours?
uNorthodoX May 26, 2017 @ 4:08pm 
Originally posted by tosexity:
Originally posted by Akutare:
The problem with the mod is that it gives no feedback to the people getting kicked, it even has an option to "hide" the kick I believe by making it look like a disconnect. This basically teaches nothing to the people that NGBTO users want to weed out when it comes to hours or unleveled decks. Why do you think so many "why do I keep getting kicked" threads always keep popping up?
Why do you join a watchdogs one down lobby with 5 hours?
Because you have no idea what's going on?

Kicking them manually and/or telling them not to join higher difficulties before kicking them would atleast prevent them from making the same mistake
i regret nothing May 26, 2017 @ 4:10pm 
Originally posted by uNorthodoXgj:
Originally posted by tosexity:
Why do you join a watchdogs one down lobby with 5 hours?
Because you have no idea what's going on?

Kicking them manually and/or telling them not to join higher difficulties before kicking them would atleast prevent them from making the same mistake
I think there are things called : Tutorials.
I used them...
How do you get better in payday 2?
Payday 2 basics
I dont think there is a video where it doesnt tell you about difficulties.
uNorthodoX May 26, 2017 @ 4:12pm 
Originally posted by tosexity:
Originally posted by uNorthodoXgj:
Because you have no idea what's going on?

Kicking them manually and/or telling them not to join higher difficulties before kicking them would atleast prevent them from making the same mistake
I think there are things called : Tutorials.
I used them...
How do you get better in payday 2?
Payday 2 basics
I dont think there is a video where it doesnt tell you about difficulties.
Some people might not watch those videos or do those tutorials

Nothing wrong with telling them a lil tip eh?
i regret nothing May 26, 2017 @ 4:14pm 
Originally posted by uNorthodoXgj:
Originally posted by tosexity:
I think there are things called : Tutorials.
I used them...
How do you get better in payday 2?
Payday 2 basics
I dont think there is a video where it doesnt tell you about difficulties.
Some people might not watch those videos or do those tutorials

Nothing wrong with telling them a lil tip eh?
Sure,tell them...
Tell them how to press the ready button,tell them everything.
I learned all this game 70% myself,30% videos and other people.
What are you now?
Gonna buy a car because it exists?
You're gonna want to know info about it.
uNorthodoX May 26, 2017 @ 4:17pm 
Originally posted by tosexity:
Originally posted by uNorthodoXgj:
Some people might not watch those videos or do those tutorials

Nothing wrong with telling them a lil tip eh?
Sure,tell them...
Tell them how to press the ready button,tell them everything.
I learned all this game 70% myself,30% videos and other people.
What are you now?
Gonna buy a car because it exists?
You're gonna want to know info about it.
We all started somewhere, just because you had a rough start doesn't mean everyone has to do it rough too

I personally don't care much about NGBTO and I don't really use it, but still telling a new player not to join OD heists goes a long way and it's not really that hard doing that

But hey mate, we're all entitled to our own opinions and whatnot
i regret nothing May 26, 2017 @ 4:20pm 
Originally posted by uNorthodoXgj:
Originally posted by tosexity:
Sure,tell them...
Tell them how to press the ready button,tell them everything.
I learned all this game 70% myself,30% videos and other people.
What are you now?
Gonna buy a car because it exists?
You're gonna want to know info about it.
We all started somewhere, just because you had a rough start doesn't mean everyone has to do it rough too

I personally don't care much about NGBTO and I don't really use it, but still telling a new player not to join OD heists goes a long way and it's not really that hard doing that

But hey mate, we're all entitled to our own opinions and whatnot
No,you got it all wrong,I dindt have a rough start at all.
But my "gamer insticts" tell me that a difficulty called death wish + skulls isnt easy.
or one down
Last edited by i regret nothing; May 26, 2017 @ 4:20pm
uNorthodoX May 26, 2017 @ 4:20pm 
Originally posted by tosexity:
Originally posted by uNorthodoXgj:
We all started somewhere, just because you had a rough start doesn't mean everyone has to do it rough too

I personally don't care much about NGBTO and I don't really use it, but still telling a new player not to join OD heists goes a long way and it's not really that hard doing that

But hey mate, we're all entitled to our own opinions and whatnot
No,you got it all wrong,I dindt have a rough start at all.
But my "gamer insticts" tell me that a difficulty called death wish + skulls isnt easy.
Well not everyone has "gamer instincts"
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Date Posted: May 26, 2017 @ 3:49pm
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