small theory on the hidden secrets achievement

[Zook_]

To get this achevment you have to press the buttons on the side of the ark in henry's rock in a certain order. Once you do this mask of the dallas, hoxton, wolf and chains come out.

My theory on why they are there is that I think an oracle in the past saw into the futrue and saw those masks and had them made and put into the ark.

what do you guys think about this theory?

[lexilogo]

Eeeh, it's possible I suppose.

At present theorising about this is a little pointless as we have essentially no details (and we have bigger fish to fry, cough cough details of the Kataru's endgame and their organisation structure cough cough), but I may as well present a series of possibilities.

• It's a weird easter egg that means nothing. This seems to be the prevailing theory at the moment and the one I'm inclined to believe unless further evidence comes out that relates to it, but is obviously a bit anticlimactic. (even though in the long run it's probably what I would personally prefer)
  
  
• As you said, someone saw into the future and created the masks as a prophecy of sorts. If this is true, it's probably the reason why The Dentist was looking for a heist crew to rob the GGC in the first place, as part of the prophecy probably specified it was going to be a group of thieves who would accomplish that feat in future. Out of all the theories this probably makes the most sense to me, especially as the code to open the vault involves decoding the order in which the Payday gang will steal the 3 boxes. (This also has uncomfortable implications that this may or may not have all been part of the Kataru's plan)
  
  
• There have been multiple Payday gangs throught time, using the same masks. If this is the case it might actually make the Chivalry Pack crossover semi-canon (oh god please no), but it would adequately explain this, and also explain certain other details. (Eg. Why Houston fully replaced Hoxton and took his mask. He couldn't be his "own character" because, probably a fact known only by Bain, the crew needed a "Hoxton" even if the original Hox was behind bars) This does however raise more questions, not the least of which being how on earth an ancient civilisation created these modern-looking masks.
  
  
• At some point, the Payday gang are going to travel back in time and for whatever reason end up leaving all 4 of their original masks in the past. This is by far the most out-there of all the theories, though.

[UnluckySpade7]

Originally posted by lexilogo:

Eeeh, it's possible I suppose.

At present theorising about this is a little pointless as we have essentially no details (and we have bigger fish to fry, cough cough details of the Kataru's endgame and their organisation structure cough cough), but I may as well present a series of possibilities.

• It's a weird easter egg that means nothing. This seems to be the prevailing theory at the moment and the one I'm inclined to believe unless further evidence comes out that relates to it, but is obviously a bit anticlimactic. (even though in the long run it's probably what I would personally prefer)
  
  
• As you said, someone saw into the future and created the masks as a prophecy of sorts. If this is true, it's probably the reason why The Dentist was looking for a heist crew to rob the GGC in the first place, as part of the prophecy probably specified it was going to be a group of thieves who would accomplish that feat in future. Out of all the theories this probably makes the most sense to me, especially as the code to open the vault involves decoding the order in which the Payday gang will steal the 3 boxes. (This also has uncomfortable implications that this may or may not have all been part of the Kataru's plan)
  
  
• There have been multiple Payday gangs throught time, using the same masks. If this is the case it might actually make the Chivalry Pack crossover semi-canon (oh god please no), but it would adequately explain this, and also explain certain other details. (Eg. Why Houston fully replaced Hoxton and took his mask. He couldn't be his "own character" because, probably a fact known only by Bain, the crew needed a "Hoxton" even if the original Hox was behind bars) This does however raise more questions, not the least of which being how on earth an ancient civilisation created these modern-looking masks.
  
  
• At some point, the Payday gang are going to travel back in time and for whatever reason end up leaving all 4 of their original masks in the past. This is by far the most out-there of all the theories, though.

Or 5, murkies knew they would come at some point the payday gang would rob them so they decided to troll them by placing them there. all possible answers

[Grey Star, The Rival Defender]

Personally a fan of the “linage of robbers” theory (it ties into the secret and golden masks from Payday: The Heist so well) but the exact models being made of plastic instead of say ancient clay is concerning.

We must not forget the writer in charge has stated two things.
“Everything is canon.”
“Nothing is exact. Details get embellished.” (In the context of the heists.)

What we’re looking at here is probaly one of those embellishments. If Payday 2 was still having a serious, exact story (such as the Hector and Hoxton storylines) nothing except achievements would be non-canon. However, since the story is being written differently, these masks in the “true” events (rather than the “heist” events) would look different, but instead for story purposes they look the exact same.