NEW SMG CONCEPT: Calico M951 Submachine Gun

[MickJaegar]

So I've been tossing ideas around my mind for a bit, and I feel like I've mostly gotten it figured out (Except legal stuff that comes from using another company's gun in your video game). So I figured I'd just go ahead and lay out the groundwork for it right now. Grab a drink, this is gonna be a long one.
As you might've guessed, the gun is based off of a Calico M951 Carbine/SMG, here's a visual aid
http://14544-presscdn-0-64.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/CalicoM900Carbine3.jpg
(Just imagine the stock pulled out, this was the best I could find)
So that's the basic, unmodded version of the gun (minus the muzzle compensator).
BARREL
Only one option here, and I call it the "Pistol barrel", Calico also has 9mm pistols using this same design, with this attachment it'll change the barrel to look like a Calico M960, as seen here
http://coolweapon.ru/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/calico_m960.jpg
(Again, please visualize the stock pulled out, best image I could find, and minus the foregrip and compensator)
BARREL EXT. MODS
Standard rifle/SMG extensions really. Competitor's Compensator, Tactical Compensator, the like. Nothing too extraordinary here.
FOREGRIP
Now, Calico also has a foregrip for this gun, called a "Kelly Grip", here's a picture of a Calico M951 with a Kelly foregrip attached
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/c/c9/CalicoM900.jpg/500px-CalicoM900.jpg
Now, I'm not sure if coding the gun so your character's holding animation on it changes when you have a foregrip mod is difficult, because no gun in the game does this, I'm not sure if it's because you can't, but if you can't, then either make the foregrip a default attachment and unable to be taken off, or just forget the idea.
GADGET
I'm not so much going to be talking about WHAT gadgets will go on it (standard rifle/smg gadgets), but instead WHERE they'll go.
IRL, laser mounts for Calico 9mms are located above the barrel shroud, here's a picture to show you
https://36.media.tumblr.com/4653eae3d806ae2521f65f6792702701/tumblr_nq0e7yiZG51r9khx4o1_500.jpg
See that rail on the barrel shroud? That's the laser mount, and where gadgets will be placed.
Or... You could, you know, tie them on to the front right side, your call.
MAGAZINE
Now we get to the fun part, you've probably noticed that helical thing on the top-back area of the gun right? Well, that's the magazine. Yep. That's the magazine. There are 2 types of magazine for 9mm Calicos, 50 round and 100 round magazines. With the default gun holding the 50 rounder. The initial photo of the unmodded gun shows the 50 round magazine, the 100 rounder is about twice the length of that.
STOCK
Two choices here, a solid stock, picture here:
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/d/d9/Liberty100.jpg/400px-Liberty100.jpg
And no stock. With a pistol barrel and no stock, it effectively becomes a Calico m950 as seen here
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/2/2e/CalicoM950.jpg/350px-CalicoM950.jpg
SIGHTS
As with gadgets, the this section is less about sights (Standard electronic sight choices) and moreso about where they'll go. Calico has scope mounts for their guns, an m950 with a scope mount can be seen here
https://s3.amazonaws.com/mgm-content/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2013/04/02/1383103_03_calico_original_m950_9mm_super_640.jpg
obviously, electronic sights will be placed on top of the rail.
BRIEF INTERLUDE INTO IRON SIGHTS
I figured I would comment on this, but you may be wondering where the iron sights are, well the rear sights are located on the back of the magazine (For the 50 rounder, it's around the middle for the 100 rounder). With the front sights being located on that little post around the middle of the gun.
BALANCE COMMENTS
The idea is a low damage, inaccurate, high DPS SMG. A bullet hose in essence, with a total ammo capacity of around either 200 or 300 rounds, with high pickup values due to it's reliance on quantity over quality. IRL the gun uses a roller delayed blowback system, allowing it to have really low recoil, so it would make sense for it to have above-average stability. The mod selection layed out above would allowed for high versatility, making it useful for techforcers, dodgers, and stealth.
LEGAL STUFF
This is something I really don't have much understanding on. I'm not really sure of the process of having a firearms company allow you to put their gun into your game, but the Calico might be a little more difficult than other guns, because that unique little magazine has it's own patent. As well as the mod selection above allowing you to essentially "Morph" the gun into other Calico guns (It starts out as an M955, but adding just the pistol barrel makes it an M960, and the pistol barrel and no stock i.e makes it an m950a), so I'm not sure if OVK would need to get permission for each one.
If you need an alternative name for the gun, might I suggest "Calypso"?
FINAL STATEMENT
God, I love this series of guns, but it seems like it nowadays only appears in obscure FPS games filled to the brim with Russians. As for skin concepts... I've got nothing, I guess I don't have it all figured out after all huh? This whole post is basically just me spitballing, if you read all the way to the end, congratulations! Here's a gold star.
http://bossierpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/gold-star-graphic.jpg

[MickJaegar]

ALSO, SHELL EJECTION
Doh! I forgot to mention this in the original post, but empty shells from the gun eject from the BOTTOM of the gun.

[MickJaegar]

STOCKS ADDENDUM
This just came to mind, but stock selection could also include some of the stocks already in the game (I.E 2-Piece, War-Torn, Wide)

[MickJaegar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq7B44odQ00

[Jamie Kedwin]

I just Found this post, after reading through it all, dude you put a lot of effort into this, and i gotta say this is Petty good, this would be cool to see in the game, and i hope they notice this, or you should at least repost this Thread, because damn, this is great!

[Mañana]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Vonya Volk:

I just Found this post, after reading through it all, dude you put a lot of effort into this, and i gotta say this is Petty good, this would be cool to see in the game, and i hope they notice this, or you should at least repost this Thread, because damn, this is great!

You are still a year late man, and OP probably stopped playing the game

[Sad_soggy_sausage]

The only reply OP got is year later, thats sad.

[Mañana]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dr.Walterstein:

The only reply OP got is year later, thats sad.

Yep, I'm kinda sorry for him, must be pretty depresive

[uNorthodoX]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Call Me AK:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dr.Walterstein:

The only reply OP got is year later, thats sad.

Yep, I'm kinda sorry for him, must be pretty depresive

Maybe that's why he quit the game?

[MickJaegar]

Wow, it really has been a year, hasn't it?
I haven't really "Quit" per se, I've just been pretty on and off lately.

[Alcat101]

I think legal stuff isn't a major issue, since Overkill themselves 'skirt' on this matter by renaming all the weapon ingame to another name.
That's one way of FPS game developer to have a firearm in their game and not needed to procure license from the manufacturer (altho, it might be a different case with AAA title such as CoD or Battlefield).

This is really a cool gun, and at some point I kinda want to modded it in as custom weapon. The very uniqueness of this gun (weapon handling anim mostly) hindered this plan..

[VxWolf]

Calico always makes the weirdest of guns. I like them
Still want a HK-G11 though

[NIKFS]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Alcat101:

I think legal stuff isn't a major issue, since Overkill themselves 'skirt' on this matter by renaming all the weapon ingame to another name.
That's one way of FPS game developer to have a firearm in their game and not needed to procure license from the manufacturer (altho, it might be a different case with AAA title such as CoD or Battlefield).

This is really a cool gun, and at some point I kinda want to modded it in as custom weapon. The very uniqueness of this gun (weapon handling anim mostly) hindered this plan..

to be fair though the weapons producers are about the only type of producers that realized that putting their stuff into games really helps with sales regardless of what side the gun is used (ever hear of kalashnikov producers being pissed that their gun is associated with terrorists in counterstrike? me neither) unlike say the car industry that gets pissed if their cars are damaged ingame-.-