I want a new Gage "Historical Pack"

[Kaiser Franz Joseph I.]

As weve already got some awesome weapons from the first historical pack, here are some other maybe good or awesome suggestions if overkill is going to make a new historical pack.

MG34 ( dont rage now f you think its the mg42, its not), MP 18, MP 34, MP 38, MP 40, StG 44, Kar98k, G43, P08, Panzerbüchse 38/39 (basically an awesome gun, counterpart of the Russian PTRD/PTRS), Panzerfaust 60, RPzB (the cool rocketlauncher)

British and American Weapons: Lee Enfield Mk. III, Webley Revolver, Boys ATR , maybe a portable version of the .50cal?(since its payday , that would sound too bad), Johnson m1941, BREN LMG ( actually made in Czechoslovakia, adopted by the Tommies), M1 Garand, M1 Carbine( maybe the M1/M2 select fire variant) Browning m1918

Soviet Union: Nagant Revolver 1895, DP28 LMG, maybe a portable version of the DShKM, SVT38/40, PTRD 41, PTRS 41, PPsH, PPD, TT-33, SKS

[Kjall]

Was about to suggest my own list, might as well add a tiny bit:

BAR M1918 (it was an automatic rifle that was used as an LMG by the US forces, but i think it should be added as a rifle to the game, have good stability and excellent hipfire accuracy since it was specifically designed for marching fire and have the same damage as the ak.762, but have a slow firerate of 500 and a mag size of 20 as a tradeoff)

M1919 (like the BAR, will have high damage and very slow rate of fire, only this one will obviously be an lmg and have horrendous, even for an lmg, hipfire accuracy and stability, making bipods a requirement)

And to make a suggestion for the M1 Carbine (assuming any of this will actually be taken into consideration, yes?), it can be a secondary considering that it's original purpose was to be a backup weapon for tank drivers because of it's compact design, it can be a medium tier weapon in the SMG cathegory, while we still have guns like the krinkov (AKU) and CR805 (based on the CZ805, a carbine) in there as well.

[Serialkillerwhale]

I'd like to mention the Winchester 1897, AKA the Trench Gun. This WWI era shotgun was so effective, germans tried to have it's usage made a War Crime.

[Glitshy]

If they make another one, I deman a Kar98, I'm still salty that they called the Mosin "The mother of all sniper rifles" even though all modern bolt action rifles use the Mauser machanism.

[JLH4AC]

I would like the Historical Pack to have these:
-Lee Enfield Rifles (One in-game rifle that can be modded into multiple versions of the Lee Enfield Rifles)
-M1/M2 Carbine
-Webley–Fosbery Automatic Revolver
-Bren Gun
-Browning Automatic Rifle (With mods to make it into the HCAR)
-SVT/AVT
-PPSH-41/PPS
-Winchester M1895 Russian contract
-Nagant M1910 Revolver

[Serialkillerwhale]

Originally posted by Glitshy:

If they make another one, I deman a Kar98, I'm still salty that they called the Mosin "The mother of all sniper rifles" even though all modern bolt action rifles use the Mauser machanism.

Gotta love that russian revisionism. The Mosin needs a damn sledgehammer to work the bolt with and barely hits minute of barn door. Either give us a Springfield or a Karabiner. (The Lee Enfield is meant for british marksmanship.....the same kind they used with longbows and muskets. Get alot of can't-aim-for-crap idiots and have them shoot as fast as possible in the enemy's general direction.)

As for Melee weapons, how about the Nambu Pistoltana?
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[Copy & Cat]

As far as i know they are aware that lot of people want a new historical pack

[Kaiser Franz Joseph I.]

or the rare experimental Villar-Perosa Double Barrel SMG for the Italians sound also interesting and the Reising SMG from the Americans

[Kaiser Franz Joseph I.]

Ill do a little bit more research to keep this updated with some interesting links for experimental weapons

oh wait the Martini-Henry breech loading gun is one of my favs in bf1, so this sounds like a good gun for pd2

[JLH4AC]

Originally posted by Glitshy:

If they make another one, I deman a Kar98, I'm still salty that they called the Mosin "The mother of all sniper rifles" even though all modern bolt action rifles use the Mauser machanism.

Calling the Mosin is "The mother of all sniper rifles" is wrong but so saying that all modern bolt action rifles use the Mauser mechanism is also wrong, many modern bolt action rifles use the Straight-pull, Lee–Enfield or some other mechanism.

Originally posted by Serialkillerwhale:

Gotta love that russian revisionism. The Mosin needs a damn sledgehammer to work the bolt with and barely hits minute of barn door. Either give us a Springfield or a Karabiner. (The Lee Enfield is meant for british marksmanship.....the same kind they used with longbows and muskets. Get alot of can't-aim-for-crap idiots and have them shoot as fast as possible in the enemy's general direction.)

The Mosin may be not as smooth as other bolt-actions but it is nowhere near as bad as you make it out to be. There is a lot wrong with what you said about British marksmanship; British soldiers were trained to fire at least 15 well aimed shoots in one minute with the Lee–Enfield, volley fire fall out of favour when the Lee–Enfield rifle was introduced, if you could not aim for crap you could not join as the British Army is a professional army that was famous for having the world’s finest marksmen and that post Boer War marksmanship is nowhere near that of the Napoleonic or Middle Ages marksmanship, the biggest differences being is that soldier were trained to aim at a single man instead of the line of men.

[TSense]

FG42 for crying out loud!
And yeah we need a lot more weapons from WW2 around

[Serialkillerwhale]

The mosin's action acts up enough to justify bringing a hammer every time you use it, has the most idiotic safety design I've ever seen (And i've seen the fire selector on an AK), and horrid accuracy. Yet no game actually shows the player smashing the bolt with a hammer between shots.

Volley fire may have fell out of favor, but the British never really had a culture for marksmanship. British soldiers were largely, like every other nation, conscripts. The over-large professional army (which admittedly could aim) they fielded to oppress their colonies was for the most part, wiped out. The Japanese took their holdings in Asia, The nazis sweeped straight through those in Europe. Americans had more ammo to train their troops, and were training men who were often familiar with guns to begin with. It really isn't a contest.

Anyways.
-Browning Auto-5 (The First Semiauto Shotgun)
-Stg44 (The first "Assault" rifle)
-BAR (The first SAW)
-Panzerfaust
-Bazooka
-Arisaka Type 38 (Only Japanese weapon worth mentioning. Besides the Nambu Gunblade which is just adorable).

[JLH4AC]

Originally posted by Serialkillerwhale:

The mosin's action acts up enough to justify bringing a hammer every time you use it, has the most idiotic safety design I've ever seen (And i've seen the fire selector on an AK), and horrid accuracy. Yet no game actually shows the player smashing the bolt with a hammer between shots.

If a Mosin is act up that badly it needs servicing, I have seen multiple Mausers that need to be hit with a hammer because it needs a service. The safety may not be the most ideal but it works well enough, the most idiotic safety design is the safety notch because a hard knock can cause the gun to discharge (the reason why the old six guns were only loaded with five rounds so that the hammer can rest on an empty chamber).The Mosin can reliably hit a man size target at 500 m just like the Mauser can, one of the most successful military snipers used the Mosin to kill 505 men which many people credits to his skill and the accuracy of the rifle.

Volley fire may have fell out of favor, but the British never really had a culture for marksmanship. British soldiers were largely, like every other nation, conscripts. The over-large professional army (which admittedly could aim) they fielded to oppress their colonies was for the most part, wiped out. The Japanese took their holdings in Asia, The nazis sweeped straight through those in Europe. Americans had more ammo to train their troops, and were training men who were often familiar with guns to begin with. It really isn't a contest.

The British people trained marksmanship on mass since the middle ages in-till the inter war years for both cultural and legal reasons, the British regular army was never wiped out, only forced to take on conscripts to boost their numbers because a vastly outnumbered/outgunned army can’t win no matter how good they are. The loses in Asia were due to bad planning not how they fought (The US did not do that well in the early years of their war against Japanese either), the British was only 10 percent of the Allied force which was outflanked by the Germans and were unable to move fast enough counter German tactics. The Americans were almost crushed in North African Campaign due to inexperience and poor leadership, were as the British Army were able win multiple battles during the campaign.

[DjPufnStuf]

Honestly I would support the Browning Automatic Rifle simply because Clyde Barrow aka the famous bank robber used it!

[Patched]

A Sten, Lewis Gun, and an Owen Gun would all be great to have.

And a De Lisle Carbine, because we need more internally silenced weapons.

[[Cadia]Apollyon]

I want a top-break revolver, like a S&W Model 3. I'd love to see the auto-ejector animation when you reload.