Minigun dozers on Deathwish

[Rex]

Minigun dozer spawns need to chill out, So far every time I play the only dozer I ever see is Minigun dozers or the occasional other type (~1 other per 3 Miniguns), often from scripted spawns like the elevator in EDay Bank and FWB basement.

Deathwish used to be about the scary white skulldozer but now it just seems like brown murkywater looking dozers.

Example all from 1 play through (Even missed about 4 other Minigun dozers during that time)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1506643559
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1506643986
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1506644870

[Sir Tontonolous]

Ayy, Rex.

Spawns seem to have been not bad. Most of the time, I forget they exist on anything that isn't DS OD.

[Copy & Cat]

The instant refill for them also bothers me

[Nash]

#ADDMORESHITYDOZERS

[Face]

There slow so they shouldn’t be that much of a problem to take out

[UnknownMerc]

They didn't put any cap or cooldown on them so whenever any dozer spawn is rolled you have a chance of one.

I've lost count of how many times I'd get a minigun dozer right away at the start, or pairs.... etc.

So much minigun dozer spam.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1434617163

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1369074106

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1361369770

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1334801875

[Whaley-senpai]

Originally posted by Face:

There slow so they shouldn’t be that much of a problem to take out

Except they have so much ammo and so much health so rip your ammo. Plus they’re a threat at long distances.

[UnknownMerc]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1544847529

[Thermal Lance]

Considering how broken certain skills / weapon setup are. Wich literally tears them to shred in seconds. They hardly have the choice. Nerf the player, stop the insane spawns. problems solved.

[Ralphy]

(to OP)
or just make them to have the same hp as a regular dozer , but give them more protection on their plates (the plates just go to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fast down from them)

[RusLocalNetwork]

As far as I know minigun and medic dozers don't count as dozers in spawn pool, so their spawns are pretty bugged

[Rex]

Originally posted by =GP$= Bloody Gad NOT 31:

As far as I know minigun and medic dozers don't count as dozers in spawn pool, so their spawns are pretty bugged

The issue I think was when Minigun dozers spawn they spawn a medic dozer also that ignores any bulldozer spawn caps.
And taking a quick look at the groupai I think it says there's a 2/5 chance for a minigun dozer to spawn since the Minigun and Medic dozers spawn as a team

[Rex]

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

Considering how broken certain skills / weapon setup are. Wich literally tears them to shred in seconds. They hardly have the choice. Nerf the player, stop the insane spawns. problems solved.

Also completely agreed, Weapons and Skills slowly have been buffed over time and enemies buffed to counter.
A good example is if you look at the older weapon stats the bronco was ~50 damage.

[Patched]

Best way I could see to handle them would make them their own separate pool of "special dozers" and limit it to 1 at a time while also counting as a dozer. Sure, you might still get an obscene amount per heist, but you won't have 3 or 4 at once.

Alternatively, put them on a timer between spawns, with the timer starting once the currently spawned one is dead.