Making Assault G3 Great Again

[Comnav45]

Let's face it guys the assault kit for the G3 is just plain horrible. Aside from the ammo boost, you get reduced damaged per shot with a 20 rd mag capacity, lower ammo pickup and a horrible gun model that really does not look that different from the base gun.

Here are some of my suggestions that way help improve the gun. For starters, some of the stats need to be changed this would involve reducing the stability, increasing concealability, increasing the firerate, and buffing the ammo pickup rate. Secondly, I would make it so the assault kit changes the overall gun model, just as the DMR kit does by reducing the mag and increasing the barrel profile, this change would involve an overall increase in mag size and capacity by 20rds or 40rd total and have a reduced barrel profile comparable to the Compact-5 which would make it similar to a reallife version of a HK51 or HK53 (videos of examples posted below). Lastly, while the assault kit is used the gun has access to Compact-5 foregrip and stock normal mods and from all other DLCs, but is restricted from using regular G3 foregrips and stocks. To get a better visual concept I am advocating for, check out the videos below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLmcZF39Cs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y49enBKsos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gowc3DT_nbQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh63SoYyEuA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NptgWS2jVbU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYUiov-uim4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqV7tPufwzo

[yamaci]

I made Famas great again and will make this great too

Just you wait

[Comnav45]

Sergeant Duffin původně napsal:

I made Famas great again and will make this great too

Just you wait

I welcome a MFGA thread. There are so many great mods for it that should be in the game. Check the vid below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3WDcgFt4rw

[Copy & Cat]

I agree with changing the mag size bit 30 should be fine, bit holy hell the pickup rate need a fix

[Comnav45]

Christmas Bowie původně napsal:

I agree with changing the mag size bit 30 should be fine, bit holy hell the pickup rate need a fix

30rds sounds good, IMO it would be more like a HK53 in game. My only reseravtion with just a 10rd increase is that it would be seen as a sub par version of the Gecko 7.62. The 40rd capacity would help offset the slow reload time, make the assault kit more focused on CQB situations and stand out from other guns other guns in the Assault DLC, namely the Clarion and Gecko 7.62. I do think you are right, adding more ammo to the mag capacity is a step in the right direction to making the assaulkt kit relevant.

[cujo_xix]

Gewehr 3 just doesn't fit that kind of high ammo capacity sray and pray style, that means assault kit is basically downgrading Gewehr 3 itself, so why are you modding it to be inferior to the original?
In addition, if you feel like the magazine size is too small to tolerate, compare it to M308 then think again, what's come up in your mind?


Aside from Gewehr 3 I really hope that Gecko 762 aka the Galil could receive a little tweak up to battle rifle's level , the name, the cartridge in the weapon category just doesn't feel consistent.

[Comnav45]

@PRESTIGE původně napsal:

Gewehr 3 just doesn't fit that kind of high ammo capacity sray and pray style, that means assault kit is basically downgrading Gewehr 3 itself, so why are you modding it to be inferior to the original?
In addition, if you feel like the magazine size is too small to tolerate, compare it to M308 then think again, what's come up in your mind?


Aside from Gewehr 3 I really hope that Gecko 762 aka the Galil could receive a little tweak up to battle rifle's level , the name, the cartridge in the weapon category just doesn't feel consistent.

If you seen the videos posted on this thread, it could be set up for that purpose. Custom short barreled versions built in the US of the G3 are usually dubbed HK51. Another version of a short barreled G3 was manufactured by the HK factory and were offically adopted under the monkier G3KA4 or MC51 for the British SAS and possibly for the German military, video posted below for an MC51 example. In princple it was a G3 with a barrel profile cut down to a MP5 barrel length. The idea IMO was to get the power of a battle rifle cartridge down to CQB use without the extra barrel length. From the examples I posted in this thread it is possible to do, but at the great cost of stability and accuracy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEyZOIM98S0

It is possible to do, but I recommend Overkill add more ammo to the mag, plus 20rds to help offset the slow reload time of the G3.

I agree with you on the Gecko 7.62. It needs a damage buff, but one within the boundaries that allows to keep its current ammo pool. It is more of a scaled up assault rifle than a battle rifle after all.

[Comnav45]

This is what a G3 looks like with a sehr kurze barrel forgrip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybwapZpv7lI

[cujo_xix]

Comnav45, I've seen videos in your post and I know there are 20, 30 and 50+ round detachable magazine IRL, what I meant to say is that you could use certain skill to compensate the mod's drawback, Surefire basic is certainly a decent investment on both Assault kit and DMR kit of Gewehr 3. Once the skill applied you will have 35 rounds in general, 25 rounds for DMR custom. As long as no tweak for Gewehr 3 surefire is your best solution at the moment. Me personally invest surefire basic just for my G3 DMR, otherwise I'd stay with the origial 80-ish damage with 20 rounds magazine.

Comnav45 původně napsal:

This is what a G3 looks like with a sehr kurze barrel forgrip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybwapZpv7lI

I remember there's a video of HK51 that a man shooting it in full-auto at night, the muzzle flash and recoil just horendous, yet somehow it could be hella fun at range.

[Comnav45]

@PRESTIGE původně napsal:

Comnav45, I've seen videos in your post and I know there are 20, 30 and 50+ round detachable magazine IRL, what I meant to say is that you could use certain skill to compensate the mod's drawback, Surefire basic is certainly a decent investment on both Assault kit and DMR kit of Gewehr 3. Once the skill applied you will have 35 rounds in general, 25 rounds for DMR custom. As long as no tweak for Gewehr 3 surefire is your best solution at the moment. Me personally invest surefire basic just for my G3 DMR, otherwise I'd stay with the origial 80-ish damage with 20 rounds magazine.

Comnav45 původně napsal:

This is what a G3 looks like with a sehr kurze barrel forgrip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybwapZpv7lI

I remember there's a video of HK51 that a man shooting it in full-auto at night, the muzzle flash and recoil just horendous, yet somehow it could be hella fun at range.

I am aware of the Surefire skill. I was just suggesting the 40rd mag for a boarder use for people that do not want to use that skill or want to focus on other builds. I do have to admit a 55rd HK51 would be kick ass.

I would perfer to get the option for a lower concealment builds so crits were more viable for this gun, thus hence the usage of Compact-5 mods which are already in the game. This way the G3 is more of a gun that can span any build a player wants.


By the way as this the video you were thinking of?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTq8wW11108

Would not mind this as a mini flamethrower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ErrAsIoDW8

[cujo_xix]

Comnav45 původně napsal:

I am aware of the Surefire skill. I was just suggesting the 40rd mag for a boarder use for people that do not want to use that skill or want to focus on other builds. I do have to admit a 55rd HK51 would be kick ass.

I would perfer to get the option for a lower concealment builds so crits were more viable for this gun, thus hence the usage of Compact-5 mods which are already in the game. This way the G3 is more of a gun that can span any build a player wants.


By the way as this the video you were thinking of?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTq8wW11108

Would not mind this as a mini flamethrower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ErrAsIoDW8

But from the current stats and mods it provides doesn't have anything solid for crits build does it? Ironically it is the first "versatile" weapon introduced with multiple purpose and the first DMR customizable AR in game, but nothing that improved for conceal oriented.

As to magazine, unless OVK introduces more weapon pack that content the similar kind of weapon or mod pack to make certain weapons great, other than adding the new custom mags for Gewehr 3 seems unlikely to happen...

And yes that's the one I mentioned! RIP eyes while shooting it.

[Comnav45]

@PRESTIGE původně napsal:

Comnav45 původně napsal:

I am aware of the Surefire skill. I was just suggesting the 40rd mag for a boarder use for people that do not want to use that skill or want to focus on other builds. I do have to admit a 55rd HK51 would be kick ass.

I would perfer to get the option for a lower concealment builds so crits were more viable for this gun, thus hence the usage of Compact-5 mods which are already in the game. This way the G3 is more of a gun that can span any build a player wants.


By the way as this the video you were thinking of?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTq8wW11108

Would not mind this as a mini flamethrower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ErrAsIoDW8

But from the current stats and mods it provides doesn't have anything solid for crits build does it? Ironically it is the first "versatile" weapon introduced with multiple purpose and the first DMR customizable AR in game, but nothing that improved for conceal oriented.

As to magazine, unless OVK introduces more weapon pack that content the similar kind of weapon or mod pack to make certain weapons great, other than adding the new custom mags for Gewehr 3 seems unlikely to happen...

And yes that's the one I mentioned! RIP eyes while shooting it.

Just had an idea. Maybe instead of increased capacity Overkill could add a fast mag mod so reload time is cut down. That would be a good solution too.

You are right, I should not be overally optimistic in Overkill revamping older DLC, but there is no harm in trying.

[Borgar Cat]

I think this idea looks pretty perfect!
We need to make a G3 as sort of "personal favor" universal rifle that has a different playstyle.

[Comnav45]

Konrad in Da House původně napsal:

I think this idea looks pretty perfect!
We need to make a G3 as sort of "personal favor" universal rifle that has a different playstyle.

Since we have grenade launcher on a rifle now. I would not even mind having a assault kit version of a G3 with a GL. Video of an example of one is posted below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnbRD3XHLPw

[cujo_xix]

Comnav45 původně napsal:

Konrad in Da House původně napsal:

I think this idea looks pretty perfect!
We need to make a G3 as sort of "personal favor" universal rifle that has a different playstyle.

Since we have grenade launcher on a rifle now. I would not even mind having a assault kit version of a G3 with a GL. Video of an example of one is posted below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnbRD3XHLPw

I'd love to see a universal underbarrel GL than exclusive one. The selling point of LF is binded M203, but look at the rifle stats itself is kind of disappointed (also what a waste of a nice gun)

By the way what's that underbarrel GL in the video? It doesn't seem like AG-36.

[Comnav45]

@PRESTIGE původně napsal:

Comnav45 původně napsal:

Since we have grenade launcher on a rifle now. I would not even mind having a assault kit version of a G3 with a GL. Video of an example of one is posted below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnbRD3XHLPw

I'd love to see a universal underbarrel GL than exclusive one. The selling point of LF is binded M203, but look at the rifle stats itself is kind of disappointed (also what a waste of a nice gun)

By the way what's that underbarrel GL in the video? It doesn't seem like AG-36.

I hope Overkill would learn from the Scarface DLC and reduce the damage to 80 and add more ammo to the gun. Maybe have it 80rds/3 grenades that seems fair, so it is more of a battle rifle like the Falcon but with one mag less.

Maybe, just maybe they could make universal assault weapons kit for all guns. Gain an under GL but lose a mag or two in exchange. That could be sweet.

The grenade launcher is a HK79A1 which was a based of the HK 69A1. Videos of examples are below.

HK79A1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGfGxvjEgII

HK 69A1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhRuKygey1E