Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

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Let's be honest
The game is:
-Medicore and outright quite bad if we take away the great graphics
-Slow asf (walk speed is horrendous) and overall just slowmotion fitting for 70+ year olds. Feels like playing a simulator
-Same enemies, no variation
-Horrible loading times overall and just the fact the game need to reload into hub each time a squad member leave the team. You start building frustration just here.
-No way to reconnect to your game if dissconnected (losing 30 mins or more for nothing).
-Worse, newb friendly version compared to Warhammer 40k: Darktide by a mile in terms of gameplay enjoyment
-No RPG or build aspects. You have a very limited perk choices
-Terrible hitbox where you make headshots clearly and half of the shots actually misses.

This title is a 3/5 score at most and people give it high scores only because of the hype, the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ slow pace lack of skill fitting for newbs, and the fact there are no other games worth playing. Way worse the Darktide in almost every aspect except graphics.
Last edited by 𝐊𝐀𝐑𝐒𝐊❗𝐍; Sep 15, 2024 @ 7:45am
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Inkidu Sep 18, 2024 @ 1:10am 
Originally posted by TheWhiteRabbit:
Originally posted by Inkidu:
Yeah, 14 years ago, but GW is well aware they can rally their fanbase to buy just about anything these days. Everyone complains about Darktide, but whoo boy, did they rally to give it numbers too.

Shame GW wasent behind this game. 40k fans just want good 40k games period. and people rallied to darktide cause Dan abbnet a well respected author and community member was suppose to behind the story and narrative of its "narrative focused campaign" thatt was a fatshark rug pull.
You're going to sit here and tell me Games Workshop. of all companies had no hand in who they gave their license to? Seriously, GW. That famously understanding company when it comes to the IP rights of Warhammer 40K.

Tell me another joke.
Inkidu Sep 18, 2024 @ 1:12am 
Originally posted by TheWhiteRabbit:
Originally posted by 𝐊𝐀𝐑𝐒𝐊❗𝐍:

Srry game is a 3/5 and worth max 30€. You have your opinion and that's fine, i have mine. Darktide is just alot better in every aspect except graphics. I think you are one of few in this forum that would give this game a 5/5, let me tell you that.


And the differance between Darktide Fans and Space marine fans is thus.

Darktide was builty with wide appeal and designed around popular mechanics and systems.

Space marine 2 was built around fans of SM1 and 40k fans. Sm2 respects its source material to an absolute. Darktide dosent give a ♥♥♥♥ at all and uses the source material as an aesthetics to make a game.

Neither is inherently bad there just not for the same audience. I love that space marines feel like space marines and move slow and have this heft and power too them.

i hate that characters in darkttide feel like unstoppable killing machines when there just normal ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ people pulled out of jail to fight Literally impossible odds.
Well I started getting into 40K because of Space Marine 1 and I don't like Darktide or Space Marine 2 and think 40K deserve way better, the franchise deserves better games that either of them.
TheWhiteRabbit Sep 18, 2024 @ 1:16am 
Originally posted by Inkidu:
Originally posted by TheWhiteRabbit:

Shame GW wasent behind this game. 40k fans just want good 40k games period. and people rallied to darktide cause Dan abbnet a well respected author and community member was suppose to behind the story and narrative of its "narrative focused campaign" thatt was a fatshark rug pull.
You're going to sit here and tell me Games Workshop. of all companies had no hand in who they gave their license to? Seriously, GW. That famously understanding company when it comes to the IP rights of Warhammer 40K.

Tell me another joke.

The company that released over 20 games in one year over half of wich were mobile ports that were DoA among many others. Yes that company that famously use too hand its copy rights out every other tuesday. the company Famous for Just recently getting its ♥♥♥♥ together and not giving literally every one and there mother a copy right. You need to do a google search and realise just how many throw-away 40k games there really are
TheWhiteRabbit Sep 18, 2024 @ 1:20am 
Originally posted by Inkidu:
Originally posted by TheWhiteRabbit:


And the differance between Darktide Fans and Space marine fans is thus.

Darktide was builty with wide appeal and designed around popular mechanics and systems.

Space marine 2 was built around fans of SM1 and 40k fans. Sm2 respects its source material to an absolute. Darktide dosent give a ♥♥♥♥ at all and uses the source material as an aesthetics to make a game.

Neither is inherently bad there just not for the same audience. I love that space marines feel like space marines and move slow and have this heft and power too them.

i hate that characters in darkttide feel like unstoppable killing machines when there just normal ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ people pulled out of jail to fight Literally impossible odds.
Well I started getting into 40K because of Space Marine 1 and I don't like Darktide or Space Marine 2 and think 40K deserve way better, the franchise deserves better games that either of them.

idk personally i think the changes between sm1 and 2 are perfect. most of the weapons are almost the same with tweaks to match the primaris counter parts. Melee executes giving you invul is awesome it makes it much better then SM1 where you just die for trying to execute and heal if theres nothing around.

i miss my boi the vengeance launcher and having 4 weapons (3 + pistol) but i like the classes and am fine with changing my gun more. The melee combos getting alittle more complexity outside of spam melee button is nice and haveing more nuance between the melee weapons instead of slow/big damage or fast/low damage and then axe in the middle.

Idk man it all just feels like SM1 but better too me. Alot less random bomb squigs around corners alot more good encounter design.
Caveman Sep 18, 2024 @ 1:22am 
This guy couldn't get hard for the Emperor
Ichi-niiPL Sep 18, 2024 @ 1:23am 
This OP dude is soooo stupid. Funnily enough graphics is the only thing that darktide was better at in my opinion, which is the only thing that according to this guy SP2 was better at xD

Also i feel like this guy is some brat who jumps with his mouse like crazy when playing fortnite and cod if he complains about movement speed :D. News flash for you this is Adeptus Astartes who carry with them armour that weigh god knows how much, try to put a fraction of that on and see how it goes for you :D

Darktide was alright but it was barely playable at start - the server issues and constant disconnects were a nightmare, this game is very polished in comparison and works perfect (if you got strong enoguh hardware that is).
Inkidu Sep 18, 2024 @ 1:24am 
Originally posted by TheWhiteRabbit:
Originally posted by Inkidu:
You're going to sit here and tell me Games Workshop. of all companies had no hand in who they gave their license to? Seriously, GW. That famously understanding company when it comes to the IP rights of Warhammer 40K.

Tell me another joke.

The company that released over 20 games in one year over half of wich were mobile ports that were DoA among many others. Yes that company that famously use too hand its copy rights out every other tuesday. the company Famous for Just recently getting its ♥♥♥♥ together and not giving literally every one and there mother a copy right. You need to do a google search and realise just how many throw-away 40k games there really are
You've just illustrated you don't know how GW is working.

See, back to Space Marine 1 and before GW worked with Relic to do all 40K stuff. Less games, but there's a reason why that's often considered the golden age of 40K video games.

Sometime after SM1 they pivoted to basically an inverted model. They carved up the most profitable parts of their license and they give those to studios with records for making sales.

They then give smaller devs smaller chunks it's why you have Mechanicus and it generally works only on mechanicus or why Chaos Gate Demonhunters works solely with Grey Knights. Then you get big boys. like Creative Assembly getting to do 3 Warhammer Fantasy games and so on and so forth.

But it's a shotgun approach that sacrifices quality for wide sales. It's what they want. I'd argue you're just seeing this lack of quality. It's why so much goes into getting the look right and gameplay feels like a secondary concern.

So yeah, they're shotgunning it out and it's ass, but it's their plan. It's not like they've rallied. My belief (now I know this company did WWZ) that they got SM2 not because they're a good action-game company but because they have a swarm-based MP framework that GW can have them monetize for months or years into the future.

Live service without using the words that might scare off people.
AdAstraWill Sep 18, 2024 @ 1:26am 
Originally posted by TheWhiteRabbit:
Originally posted by Inkidu:
Well I started getting into 40K because of Space Marine 1 and I don't like Darktide or Space Marine 2 and think 40K deserve way better, the franchise deserves better games that either of them.

idk personally i think the changes between sm1 and 2 are perfect. most of the weapons are almost the same with tweaks to match the primaris counter parts. Melee executes giving you invul is awesome it makes it much better then SM1 where you just die for trying to execute and heal if theres nothing around.

i miss my boi the vengeance launcher and having 4 weapons (3 + pistol) but i like the classes and am fine with changing my gun more. The melee combos getting alittle more complexity outside of spam melee button is nice and haveing more nuance between the melee weapons instead of slow/big damage or fast/low damage and then axe in the middle.

Idk man it all just feels like SM1 but better too me. Alot less random bomb squigs around corners alot more good encounter design.

The only things I am bothered by realistically, at least in the PvE side of things is reliance on med packs and there being only contested health. I also do not like that, contested health has such a short holding duration, because if you get staggered even slightly you can lose a huge chunk of health from it.

I feel as though on the PvE side at least, it would benefit from having a "Gain 2.5% health on execution" or something, but then keep contested health regained outside of it. People already immediately throw everything away to press E to get the execute anyway because its fun, so it would work nicely. It doesn't have to be a lot, but it will feel better.

I do like the invulnerable window though for executes. The bosses don't really cause much damage unless you aren't paying attention so its really only the majoris that cause issues.

One other thing I wish was not a thing is that the campaign does not have its own triggered balance, its balanced around co-op :/

By triggered I mean, X values are loaded for Solo, Y Values are loaded when multiple players are in co-op for the campaign.
Last edited by AdAstraWill; Sep 18, 2024 @ 1:27am
Toast3r Sep 18, 2024 @ 1:38am 
Originally posted by アンジェル:
Originally posted by 𝐊𝐀𝐑𝐒𝐊❗𝐍:
Let's be honest
The game is:
-Medicore and outright quite bad if we take away the great graphics
-Slow asf (walk speed is horrendous) and overall just slow. Feels like playing a simulator
-Same enemies, no variation
-Horrible loading times overall and just the fact the game need to reload into hub each time a suad member leave the team. You start building frustration just here.
-No way to reconnect to your game if dissconnected (losing 30 mins or more for nothing).
-Worse version then Warhammer 40k:Darktide in comparison by a mile in terms of gameplay enjoyment
-No RPG or build aspects. You have a very limited perk choice
-Terrible hitbox where you make headshots clearly and half of the shots actually misses.

This title is a 3/5 score at most and people give it high scores only because of the hype, the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ low slow pace lack of skill fitting for newbs, and the fact there are no other games worth playing.

Incorrect

Your PC issues are no game issues

literally 0 of the issues he's pointing at are related to he's PC

90% of the one he's pointing at are related to gameplay/game design

the only one who could be related to he's PC is the horrible loading time , except its horrible for everyone , even if you have a fast M2 SSD like me
Love Doctor Sep 18, 2024 @ 1:43am 
Originally posted by 𝐊𝐀𝐑𝐒𝐊❗𝐍:
The game is:
-Medicore and outright quite bad if we take away the great graphics
-Slow asf (walk speed is horrendous) and overall just slowmotion fitting for 70+ year olds. Feels like playing a simulator
-Same enemies, no variation
-Horrible loading times overall and just the fact the game need to reload into hub each time a squad member leave the team. You start building frustration just here.
-No way to reconnect to your game if dissconnected (losing 30 mins or more for nothing).
-Worse, newb friendly version compared to Warhammer 40k: Darktide by a mile in terms of gameplay enjoyment
-No RPG or build aspects. You have a very limited perk choices
-Terrible hitbox where you make headshots clearly and half of the shots actually misses.

This title is a 3/5 score at most and people give it high scores only because of the hype, the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ slow pace lack of skill fitting for newbs, and the fact there are no other games worth playing. Way worse the Darktide in almost every aspect except graphics.
>being OP
>played 18 hours
>very bad game
>plays 30 hours more
Seems legit:lunar2019grinningpig:

This kind of games are actually very popular in IKEA tbh.
-GK- Paladin Sep 18, 2024 @ 1:50am 
Originally posted by TheWhiteRabbit:
Originally posted by 𝐊𝐀𝐑𝐒𝐊❗𝐍:

Srry game is a 3/5 and worth max 30€. You have your opinion and that's fine, i have mine. Darktide is just alot better in every aspect except graphics. I think you are one of few in this forum that would give this game a 5/5, let me tell you that.


And the differance between Darktide Fans and Space marine fans is thus.

Darktide was builty with wide appeal and designed around popular mechanics and systems.

Space marine 2 was built around fans of SM1 and 40k fans. Sm2 respects its source material to an absolute. Darktide dosent give a ♥♥♥♥ at all and uses the source material as an aesthetics to make a game.

Neither is inherently bad there just not for the same audience. I love that space marines feel like space marines and move slow and have this heft and power too them.

i hate that characters in darkttide feel like unstoppable killing machines when there just normal ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ people pulled out of jail to fight Literally impossible odds.
You nailed it. It is targeted at the Dawn of War 2 and Space Marine 1 players. Even the difficulty and weapons match up. Primarch difficulty in Dawn of War 2 was absolutely brutal. PvE mode in SM 2 matches with Exterminatus in 1. Even PvP matches with original and actually improved on needing team play and tactics to win. I'll agree that it has some rough edges in SM 2, but nothing that makes me say "I really don't like this".
Alfred J. Kwak Sep 18, 2024 @ 2:01am 
Originally posted by Inkidu:
Originally posted by -GK- Paladin:
This is why the developer knows their target audience so well. They know the players that invested heavily into 40K games and what they would enjoy and boy are we enjoying this game.
I'd argue 40K fans deserve better than this, but GW doesn't have to insure they get it because they won't fight for it.

speaking as someone who plays 40k game since 15 years, 40k games are mostly mid, sadly not much is really good
Last edited by Alfred J. Kwak; Sep 18, 2024 @ 2:01am
Astronimo Sep 18, 2024 @ 2:10am 
Originally posted by Inkidu:
Originally posted by TheWhiteRabbit:


And the differance between Darktide Fans and Space marine fans is thus.

Darktide was builty with wide appeal and designed around popular mechanics and systems.

Space marine 2 was built around fans of SM1 and 40k fans. Sm2 respects its source material to an absolute. Darktide dosent give a ♥♥♥♥ at all and uses the source material as an aesthetics to make a game.

Neither is inherently bad there just not for the same audience. I love that space marines feel like space marines and move slow and have this heft and power too them.

i hate that characters in darkttide feel like unstoppable killing machines when there just normal ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ people pulled out of jail to fight Literally impossible odds.
Well I started getting into 40K because of Space Marine 1 and I don't like Darktide or Space Marine 2 and think 40K deserve way better, the franchise deserves better games that either of them.
Just like I think that zoomers should stay away from wh40k with their "better games".

SM2 is exactly what a space marine game should be. It's not a wh40k random game, it's a space marine game.

If you don't like movement speed - go to cod. Please. Just go and never return.
Kopejka Sep 18, 2024 @ 2:10am 
Originally posted by 𝐊𝐀𝐑𝐒𝐊❗𝐍:
-Slow asf (walk speed is horrendous) and overall just slowmotion fitting for 70+ year olds. Feels like playing a simulator
its ok buddy there's like 30+ cod title you can zoom through
i heard the latest one has groundbraking movement tech. you should check that out lil bro
Claptain Ahab Sep 18, 2024 @ 2:24am 
Originally posted by TopperHarley:
Lol ok lets be honest. I really dont give a F about what you just ranted. So yeah ..im being honest lol
but yet here you are proving you give a F about what he just ranted.
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