Future PS4 players, Kicking ass, or getting theirs kicked?

[RockSpoon]

I'm wondering, will the PS4 users on PS2 do better, worse, or the same in combat as PC users? I'm inclined to think that they will do worse, but I am biased towards PC's.
What do you think?

[Mexiguy]

Doesn't really matter considering that there won't be cross-play.

Also console players always do worse than PC players

[Zee_]

PS4 players with controllers will play worse than PS4 players with mouse and keyboard (and previous PC FPS expereince).

As Mexiguy said, PS4 and PC players won't be playing together. There will be PS4 exclusive servers.

[Ishan451]

Publicado originalmente por RockSpoon:

Kicking ♥♥♥, or getting theirs kicked?
What do you think?

I think they will do it in equal measure, on a global scale.

[HappyStuffing]

I would be surprised if console players could play anywhere near as well as PC players without the use of mouse/keyboard. Mainly the mouse.

I suspect at least one reason SOE is not combining PC/Console players is because it will be unfair and too much whinning will ensue.

[Ishan451]

Publicado originalmente por HappyStuffing:

I would be surprised if console players could play anywhere near as well as PC players without the use of mouse/keyboard. Mainly the mouse.

Considering they will be playing only against other console players there will not be any advantage or disadvantage in using a controller.

Publicado originalmente por HappyStuffing:

I suspect at least one reason SOE is not combining PC/Console players is because it will be unfair and too much whinning will ensue.

The reason they do not combine it, is because, according to them, the restrictions they have to adhere to when patching the PS4 version, as well as having to downscale the number of people per continent for the PS4 version and other technical limitations that make the PS4 version 'inferior' to the PC version on a technical level...

I don't think there is so much difference between an average console player and an average PC player when it comes to planetside. Both are equally cannon fodder.

Winning firefights in Planetside depends mostly on ambushing and surprising your enemy at which point it doesn't really matter what your input method is. Twitch skills don't play to much of a role in this game, unless you are talking about the 'above average' level of gamer you meet in Planetside.

[Mexiguy]

Publicado originalmente por Ishan451:

The reason they do not combine it, is because, according to them, the restrictions they have to adhere to when patching the PS4 version, as well as having to downscale the number of people per continent for the PS4 version and other technical limitations that make the PS4 version 'inferior' to the PC version on a technical level...

Actually according to what Higby said during SOE Live the two main reasons are version sync (it takes anything from a couple of days to a week to push an update thtough PSN) and balance (PS4 version is most likely gonna have aim assist and some weapons may have their stats adjusted if the recoil proves to be too hard for the console babies)

[Corinarh]

Publicado originalmente por Mexiguy:

Publicado originalmente por Ishan451:

The reason they do not combine it, is because, according to them, the restrictions they have to adhere to when patching the PS4 version, as well as having to downscale the number of people per continent for the PS4 version and other technical limitations that make the PS4 version 'inferior' to the PC version on a technical level...

Actually according to what Higby said during SOE Live the two main reasons are version sync (it takes anything from a couple of days to a week to push an update thtough PSN) and balance (PS4 version is most likely gonna have aim assist and some weapons may have their stats adjusted if the recoil proves to be too hard for the console babies)

recoil proves to be too hard for the console babies

^ confirmed NC6 Gauss SAW gonna be removed from ps4 version of a game

[RockSpoon]

So.... Why do we even have consoles if they're so inferior? I doubt anyone with a console is lacking their own PC.

[Ishan451]

Publicado originalmente por RockSpoon:

I doubt anyone with a console is lacking their own PC.

Not sure about having a PC or not, but the question is rather if they are having one that can handle videogames, especially as taxing as Planetside 2.

And liking it or not, there are more Consoles gamers out there than there are PC gamer.

[Zee_]

Publicado originalmente por RockSpoon:

So.... Why do we even have consoles if they're so inferior? I doubt anyone with a console is lacking their own PC.

Consoles exist because they're cheaper and easier to use than a good gaming PC, and they have a singular design so developers don't have to spend as much time and money optimising across the thousands of different CPUs, GPUs, driver sets, etc.

Just look at the forums here, 90% of the "can I run it?" posts and "this game sux I can't play it" posts are from people with horrible laptops or off the shelf budget computers thinking they can game on them.

Consoles are and will forever be inferior simply due to raw horsepower and input options (m+kb, proper flight yokes, high end steering wheels, etc that generally aren't available to consoles) available to PCs. The Xbone and PS4 were inferior to 2 year old PCs the day they were released.

For the mass market consoles make more sense, because even people that build (or most likely buy) high end PCs, there are a surprisingly high number that don't know how to OPTIMISE them for best performance, which is why you also see alot of people with high end systems having issues playing PS2 and many other games that demand more power. In other cases people may have a powerful system, but don't check forums beforehand so they don't realise their completely AMD setup is going to have much worse performance than a lower spec intel/nvidia setup for PS2.

Consoles require no knowledge of hardware or compatability. You simply plug and play, so the masses use that because its simple.

[Havic]

Ps4 users who choose to use mouse and keyboard will dominate those who use the controller.

[Pan_de]

Playbing

Publicado originalmente por RockSpoon:

So.... Why do we even have consoles if they're so inferior? I doubt anyone with a console is lacking their own PC.

I have both, and the reason why is: 1. playing on a console proves to be the more comfortable way. - fast starting up, -freedom of movement( i can walk anywhere in my room or house while still playing or talking via headset). -Guaranteed working games. - and the most important thing: Exclusives.

And btw you can plug in a mouse and keyboard with a specially designed usb stick, which can transform all devices such as wii motes xboxcontrollers dual shock 3 controllers and mouse and keyboard into the ps4.

I play pc for the rather demanding and well more hardcore games like arma, counter strike, and all strategy games. But if I had a choice between console version and pc I would take the console version first. Hell I even play pc games with a controller if possible. Actually you can use the ps4 controller wireless on pc too :).

So I´´m waiting for this release and they said I can use my old chars from pc that will be awesome. Cause I kinda spent lots of time and a bit of money on them already.

[Wild Grant]

Publicado originalmente por RockSpoon:

So.... Why do we even have consoles if they're so inferior? I doubt anyone with a console is lacking their own PC.

Prices, simple as.
Bad devs also need standardized platforms to develop for.

Publicado originalmente por Zee_:

Publicado originalmente por RockSpoon:

So.... Why do we even have consoles if they're so inferior? I doubt anyone with a console is lacking their own PC.

Consoles exist because they're cheaper and easier to use than a good gaming PC, and they have a singular design so developers don't have to spend as much time and money optimising across the thousands of different CPUs, GPUs, driver sets, etc.

Just look at the forums here, 90% of the "can I run it?" posts and "this game sux I can't play it" posts are from people with horrible laptops or off the shelf budget computers thinking they can game on them.

Consoles are and will forever be inferior simply due to raw horsepower and input options (m+kb, proper flight yokes, high end steering wheels, etc that generally aren't available to consoles) available to PCs. The Xbone and PS4 were inferior to 2 year old PCs the day they were released.

For the mass market consoles make more sense, because even people that build (or most likely buy) high end PCs, there are a surprisingly high number that don't know how to OPTIMISE them for best performance, which is why you also see alot of people with high end systems having issues playing PS2 and many other games that demand more power. In other cases people may have a powerful system, but don't check forums beforehand so they don't realise their completely AMD setup is going to have much worse performance than a lower spec intel/nvidia setup for PS2.

Consoles require no knowledge of hardware or compatability. You simply plug and play, so the masses use that because its simple.

Why specify intel/Nvidia?
The intel bit I get, this game doesn't work on AMD processors, but Nvidia? As far as I know the Nvidia graphics cards don't do any better than similar spec'd AMD in this game.

[Bushman82]

Bought a controllermax to use a M/K setup when it launches on the ps4. Will probably use the controller for 90% of my play time tho. Cant wait to try, less than a week from beta now.

[RockSpoon]

Publicado originalmente por Bushman82:

Bought a controllermax to use a M/K setup when it launches on the ps4. Will probably use the controller for 90% of my play time tho. Cant wait to try, less than a week from beta now.

^--- So wait... You bought an item for your console so you can have computer inputs, so you can play on the console instead of your PC, against controller users who will have a severe disadvantage of input unless they too buy a controllermax? Sounds like a nightmare to me.