PlanetSide 2

PlanetSide 2

Sir_0v3rk1ll May 16, 2024 @ 10:57pm
Planetside 3
We need PS3 already. Doesn't matter how much work you put into PS2 it's old. Also we need a new game without such aggressive micro-transactions. Make it pay to game and if it's free to play at least make it so that the micro transactions are for skin only. Not weapons, ridicules bundles with op augmentations and boosters that greatly give you an advantage respawning vehicles and so on. The game is dying.
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DC| TehAgent May 17, 2024 @ 10:31am 
Ive posted before that they need to decrease the price of the lower level items and increase the cost of stuff whales buy. Whales are gonna buy what they want anyway and increasing something from 17.99 to 20$ or even 25$ doesnt matter.

BUT

Making a 7$ item 3.50/4.99/5 bucks will matter a lot. Volume matters. The assets are there and no additional money is being spent on developing them. They may be stuck with a certain payout per sale to Player Studio items though.

Some of the other stuff just costs too much. I might be considered a whale by some but its been a LONG time since I bought anything other than a membership or spending the 500 DBC I get from it. I HAVE spent a ♥♥♥♥ ton over the past 10 years though. I make more money now than ever and still dont like the 70$ bundles. Thats just insane when you look at the cost of other stuff. The sales strategy is just way too aggressive and centered around nickel and diming people to death.
Captain n00by Jun 19, 2024 @ 3:42pm 
Yea, game is still cool and updated, but 10 years is quite a period.

They should grab Unreal Engine 5 and start making PS3, primarly for PC, but PS5 and XBX ports could follow in the future.
Thwartgorgon75 Jun 19, 2024 @ 3:47pm 
"Pay to game"
no
SexyBastardAlert! Jun 19, 2024 @ 6:47pm 
Despite the maps being oversized the game had some charm when it held a player base.

Planetside Arena was tried and failed (2019).

Not sure the support is there for another game, one of those titles lost to time like many other franchises we want to live forever.
Black_Fox Jun 20, 2024 @ 2:47am 
Originally posted by SexyBastardAlert!:
Despite the maps being oversized the game had some charm when it held a player base.

Planetside Arena was tried and failed (2019).

Not sure the support is there for another game, one of those titles lost to time like many other franchises we want to live forever.

Currently it would be the best time to release a classic combined arms class shooter - There is basically no competition aside from BF 2042 and maybe Battlebit.

They would need to get a bit more mainstream with the game mechanics and gunplay to attract a big audience though. More towards a battlefield style gunplay rather than the arena shooter concept we have in PS2
Last edited by Black_Fox; Jun 20, 2024 @ 2:48am
spacemarine2022 Aug 20, 2024 @ 6:47am 
Originally posted by SexyBastardAlert!:
Despite the maps being oversized the game had some charm when it held a player base.

Planetside Arena was tried and failed (2019).

Not sure the support is there for another game, one of those titles lost to time like many other franchises we want to live forever.
I for one actually enjoy massive maps in PvP war games. It often makes the battles feel bigger and more intense.
Techterror12 Aug 20, 2024 @ 6:55am 
Originally posted by DC| TehAgent:
Ive posted before that they need to decrease the price of the lower level items and increase the cost of stuff whales buy. Whales are gonna buy what they want anyway and increasing something from 17.99 to 20$ or even 25$ doesnt matter.

BUT

Making a 7$ item 3.50/4.99/5 bucks will matter a lot. Volume matters. The assets are there and no additional money is being spent on developing them. They may be stuck with a certain payout per sale to Player Studio items though.

Some of the other stuff just costs too much. I might be considered a whale by some but its been a LONG time since I bought anything other than a membership or spending the 500 DBC I get from it. I HAVE spent a ♥♥♥♥ ton over the past 10 years though. I make more money now than ever and still dont like the 70$ bundles. Thats just insane when you look at the cost of other stuff. The sales strategy is just way too aggressive and centered around nickel and diming people to death.

A family friend of mine, who worked in retail management for 15 years said to me, "Volume fixes everything." They absolutely need to take Volume seriously.
Techterror12 Aug 20, 2024 @ 7:01am 
Originally posted by spacemarine2022:
Originally posted by SexyBastardAlert!:
Despite the maps being oversized the game had some charm when it held a player base.

Planetside Arena was tried and failed (2019).

Not sure the support is there for another game, one of those titles lost to time like many other franchises we want to live forever.
I for one actually enjoy massive maps in PvP war games. It often makes the battles feel bigger and more intense.

There isn't much of a reason to fight over the land anymore without large pops. (Balance is also not right when it comes to tank combat) that is were I fell in love with the game originally, farms aren't fun. A new game could address this and it would be profitable if executed well, but eg7 is too conservative for that sadly hopefully one of our whales is secretly a billionaire and will fund a third game. (licensing form the acquisitions company that bought the rights)
DC| TehAgent Aug 20, 2024 @ 1:13pm 
Originally posted by Techterror12:
Originally posted by DC| TehAgent:
Ive posted before that they need to decrease the price of the lower level items and increase the cost of stuff whales buy. Whales are gonna buy what they want anyway and increasing something from 17.99 to 20$ or even 25$ doesnt matter.

BUT

Making a 7$ item 3.50/4.99/5 bucks will matter a lot. Volume matters. The assets are there and no additional money is being spent on developing them. They may be stuck with a certain payout per sale to Player Studio items though.

Some of the other stuff just costs too much. I might be considered a whale by some but its been a LONG time since I bought anything other than a membership or spending the 500 DBC I get from it. I HAVE spent a ♥♥♥♥ ton over the past 10 years though. I make more money now than ever and still dont like the 70$ bundles. Thats just insane when you look at the cost of other stuff. The sales strategy is just way too aggressive and centered around nickel and diming people to death.

A family friend of mine, who worked in retail management for 15 years said to me, "Volume fixes everything." They absolutely need to take Volume seriously.

HA

I actually worked retail in my early 20s. I was a department manager. For the first time ever in the history of the company, I took my little department to the top of profits - even making more than the meat department (which is your money maker in virtually every store)

That was because my strategy was volume. Selling low cost items in volume. I found the things that people with little to spend would buy and sold the **** out of them. People that HAD the money also bought those items, because theyre cheap, good, and they had the money...so why not?

As far as PS3 goes, yes. All we really need are some new models, skins, and maps. The 'bones' are already there. CPU technology has caught up to the engine - most of us were struggling with 30 fps back in the day. Just basically remaster the game, make us new maps and sell it as PS3. With actual well thought out balance of course.
Last edited by DC| TehAgent; Aug 20, 2024 @ 1:14pm
Sethioz Aug 20, 2024 @ 2:20pm 
Originally posted by Sir_0v3rk1ll:
We need PS3 already. Doesn't matter how much work you put into PS2 it's old. Also we need a new game without such aggressive micro-transactions. Make it pay to game and if it's free to play at least make it so that the micro transactions are for skin only. Not weapons, ridicules bundles with op augmentations and boosters that greatly give you an advantage respawning vehicles and so on. The game is dying.

nope, you don't seem to know how companies work or what players need. you're probably one of those who would make a game and abandon it 1 year after, saying "its old" and would bounce at something new.

csgo is as old as ps2, but they released a new update and turned it into cs2.
what ps2 NEEDS, is overhaul update. better graphics, better vehicle damage physics (visual damage), more vehicles, new maps ..etc.
altho i don't mind graphics, it looks amazing for 12 year old game. at least it's not a GPU fryer. my GPU sits nicely at 30% usage with temps below 50c even with hot weather.

game is NOT pay2win, what are you on about? play more than 10 minutes at a time. nothing is OP, you can unlock everything for free.

if game is FREE to play and no micro-transactions, how do devs make money? do you know how much it costs them to host servers? i think at this point they barely making money just to upkeep the servers.
do you know how much programmers charge? depending on country and programming, they charge 50-150 eur per hour. how you expect them to hire programmers if they make it all free?
making as little as 1 model, will take at least 1 month for a single person, calculate the hours and calculate how much it would cost to make just ONE new model.

we don't need ps3, they just need to upgrade the existing game and put some life into it. they can do "asset-flip" with minimal effort and make it into whole "new" game.

HOWEVER reason why ps2 is not popular, is because average player has IQ of a donkey and ps2 is simply too complex for such players. if you can't hold W and win, then it's "boring" for most players. that's why cs2 is so popular, you can hold W and bash mouse1 and win, this is what low IQ players want, that's why cs2 is popular ans ps2 isn't.

same with other more complicated games, like insurgency sandstorm. it's very realistic, but people are not good enough to play it. i've made some videos on those noob rushers aswell, they hold W, then die instantly to a bot and then they get bored while 1-2 players are using tactics to complete the objective.

so if they make ps3, it won't get more players than ps2. it might at first, maybe in first 1-2 months, but then people will get bored as it's too "complicated" for their tiny minds to handle.
it's same with every game, all popular games are simple and arcade. anything that requires thinking powers, will get abandoned very fast as it's "boring".

that said, look at BattleSide. it's not out yet, but its inspired on ps2 and it has entire plant + space. it will also have 3 factions and basically very similar to ps2, but it seem to have very small dev team, so i doubt it gets anywhere. i hope it does tho, it looks promising.
Hides in Bushes Aug 20, 2024 @ 2:24pm 
Originally posted by SexyBastardAlert!:
Despite the maps being oversized the game had some charm when it held a player base.

Planetside Arena was tried and failed (2019).

Not sure the support is there for another game, one of those titles lost to time like many other franchises we want to live forever.
this is because wrel is a moron and his ideas were terrible... and they tried to launch a quasi battle royal after battle royals started to phase out. OH and I think they tried to launch it the day halo master chief collection launched or something like that... some major game launch
BingusDingus Aug 22, 2024 @ 8:05pm 
It won't happen sadly, it'd take more money than I feel any company feels comfortable throwing at it.
Planetside 2 is on life support, likely to stay there until it dies a slow and painful death.
Originally posted by Sir_0v3rk1ll:
We need PS3 already. Doesn't matter how much work you put into PS2 it's old. Also we need a new game without such aggressive micro-transactions. Make it pay to game and if it's free to play at least make it so that the micro transactions are for skin only. Not weapons, ridicules bundles with op augmentations and boosters that greatly give you an advantage respawning vehicles and so on. The game is dying.

The best course of action for developers is to make PlanetSide 3 a purchasable game if they decide to develop it. In this way, a player will be banned and forced to buy the game again if they are found to be hacking/cheating.
Last edited by Custodian Strike Force; Aug 26, 2024 @ 1:16pm
Black_Fox Aug 26, 2024 @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by Astra Militarum:
Originally posted by Sir_0v3rk1ll:
We need PS3 already. Doesn't matter how much work you put into PS2 it's old. Also we need a new game without such aggressive micro-transactions. Make it pay to game and if it's free to play at least make it so that the micro transactions are for skin only. Not weapons, ridicules bundles with op augmentations and boosters that greatly give you an advantage respawning vehicles and so on. The game is dying.

The best course of action for developers is to make PlanetSide 3 a purchasable game if they decide to develop it. In this way, a player will be banned and forced to buy the game again if they are found to be hacking/cheating.

I think that would mean the game wouldn't reach the necessary numbers to fill up fights if they keep that concept. F2P models are designed to fill games with "content" (other people to play with)

So if the new owners don't find a very talented dev studio by some miracle it would probably end like Arena
Originally posted by Black_Fox:
Originally posted by Astra Militarum:

The best course of action for developers is to make PlanetSide 3 a purchasable game if they decide to develop it. In this way, a player will be banned and forced to buy the game again if they are found to be hacking/cheating.

I think that would mean the game wouldn't reach the necessary numbers to fill up fights if they keep that concept. F2P models are designed to fill games with "content" (other people to play with)

So if the new owners don't find a very talented dev studio by some miracle it would probably end like Arena

In addition to content, their game must be less vulnerable from hackers. No matter how excellent the content is, it would be useless if hackers were rampant. I wouldn't waste my money on their membership, which is the reason why.
Last edited by Custodian Strike Force; Aug 26, 2024 @ 1:35pm
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