CHEATERS

[brankopajo]

i played this game for 2000+ hours,lately sooooooo many "pro players", "good players" ...... aimbot is working overtime

[Cora]

gordoIsMyName původně napsal:

people cheat in this game?

it comes and goes. the devs use a "hack tool profiling system" for handling common cheat/hacks out there as most of the hackers use the same hack softwear they downloaded from someplace. but that stuff was written by someone and when they update, it does take a minute for a new profile to be generated for the auto-kick/auto-ban systems to work. Daybreak doesnt have the huge active live admin support that SOE had when Uncle Sony was footing the bill so it IS takign way too long for them to adapt to the changes in the ecosystem.

I hated when they added Hackshield right after they cut ties with Sony... evil organization ... but i dont know what they are using right now.

[Vyss A'lare]

People seem to think they can actually recognize subtle cheaters. There were some massive blatant ones on emerald before the patch the made them get taken care of faster. Most cheaters are going to be using esp (yes it's still incredibly valuable even with radar/spotting) and/or some level of aim assist.

To a normal person you'd never be able to tell and the presence of spotting/radar makes it incredibly hard to tell if someone is using esp and can literally watch you through walls or you got spotted/radar tagged. Aim assist can be tailored in so many ways that it can be headsnap aimbot to just slightly guiding onto a target while firing. It's not possible to know if the bolter is a godtier twitch aimer or gets relatively close and when he presses a button it snaps the last 5 degrees onto your head and shoots. Only dumbass cheaters turn their aimbots on 100% and autosnap from head to head since it's obvious as ♥♥♥♥. Only things more obvious are shooting through walls or flying around while you do it.

There are most certainly way more hackers than people think there are but they can still be killed/overcome. There are also some incredibly skilled players who have insane amounts of time in the game. A good player can easily be a "great" player with a little assistance. Hell even just using esp could make you way better in small scale if you can aim. Never getting flanked, always knowing which angle to be looking even though you have no recon up. Knowing when you can safely peak or need to retreat and which avenue is open to do so.
Knowledge is power and esp gives you all of it. Unless you're a moron (and actually track targets through walls) it's impossible to detect whether you have amazing game sense or are getting outside assistance.

[Pervy]

Vyss A'lare původně napsal:

People seem to think they can actually recognize subtle cheaters. There were some massive blatant ones on emerald before the patch the made them get taken care of faster. Most cheaters are going to be using esp (yes it's still incredibly valuable even with radar/spotting) and/or some level of aim assist.

To a normal person you'd never be able to tell and the presence of spotting/radar makes it incredibly hard to tell if someone is using esp and can literally watch you through walls or you got spotted/radar tagged. Aim assist can be tailored in so many ways that it can be headsnap aimbot to just slightly guiding onto a target while firing. It's not possible to know if the bolter is a godtier twitch aimer or gets relatively close and when he presses a button it snaps the last 5 degrees onto your head and shoots. Only dumbass cheaters turn their aimbots on 100% and autosnap from head to head since it's obvious as ♥♥♥♥. Only things more obvious are shooting through walls or flying around while you do it.

There are most certainly way more hackers than people think there are but they can still be killed/overcome. There are also some incredibly skilled players who have insane amounts of time in the game. A good player can easily be a "great" player with a little assistance. Hell even just using esp could make you way better in small scale if you can aim. Never getting flanked, always knowing which angle to be looking even though you have no recon up. Knowing when you can safely peak or need to retreat and which avenue is open to do so.
Knowledge is power and esp gives you all of it. Unless you're a moron (and actually track targets through walls) it's impossible to detect whether you have amazing game sense or are getting outside assistance.

Thats the problem, most people can't aim xD If fisu is anythign to go by, most people can't hit the back side of a barn with a chaingun.

About the going to peak, one have to remember do to clientside, the cheater needs to pre fire in order to win, since there is that split second delay, and thats all it takes to die.
And do to say foot sound, cloak sounds, jetpack sounds, it can sometimes or make people think something bad is going on when there is not. But i do agree there is likely more subtle cheaters, then people or i think, but its hard to take a guess how many that would be. Besides on soltech, thats a different game.

[Vyss A'lare]

LostLogicUnit původně napsal:

About the going to peak, one have to remember do to clientside, the cheater needs to pre fire in order to win, since there is that split second delay, and thats all it takes to die.

True if they are defending from a peeker but with the level of intel they'd have, they should be the ones being super aggressive and peeking. An esp user can literally see through the wall if someone is sprinting up to their door and just pop out at the perfect time. The clientside advantage + opponent surprise is all they should need for a quick kill.

[Re𝕯isia]

I like how someone said "ITs just skill" when you take a aimed shot at a guy standing still 4-5x and he turns around near istandly and drops you in 1-2 bullet each time. Yeah.... smells like aimbot.

I ran around the corner aimed neck area and started shooting and died before my machine gun killed him. Most shots bitting body/head area... 1 or 2x is lucky 5x in a row... not so believable

Edit:
Most dodgy thing last 24 hours.... seeing a flying ant 3x in a row

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Re𝕯isia původně napsal:

I like how someone said "ITs just skill" when you take a aimed shot at a guy standing still 4-5x and he turns around near istandly and drops you in 1-2 bullet each time. Yeah.... smells like aimbot.

I ran around the corner aimed neck area and started shooting and died before my machine gun killed him. Most shots bitting body/head area... 1 or 2x is lucky 5x in a row... not so believable

Edit:
Most dodgy thing last 24 hours.... seeing a flying ant 3x in a row

The flying ant thing is a physics "issue" unless they're able to control it like a jet or something.

You can do the turbo ant tree, then fill up the turbo entirely with cortium, find a big rock on Amerish that gets you pointed upwards then if you're at the right angle you'll fly in a straight line at roughly the same altitude as take off across the map.

Thought about using some strategies to drop on points that way, but kind of a toss up on launch angle.

[Pervy]

Re𝕯isia původně napsal:

I like how someone said "ITs just skill" when you take a aimed shot at a guy standing still 4-5x and he turns around near istandly and drops you in 1-2 bullet each time. Yeah.... smells like aimbot.

I ran around the corner aimed neck area and started shooting and died before my machine gun killed him. Most shots bitting body/head area... 1 or 2x is lucky 5x in a row... not so believable

Edit:
Most dodgy thing last 24 hours.... seeing a flying ant 3x in a row

If its flying like proper flying around, and not floating its hacking for sure:
However when you lose connection to the server, everyone and tanks will start to float off, and its that which people normal just claim others are seeing and not flying hackers.

[Pervy]

MBT -> UA původně napsal:

Re𝕯isia původně napsal:

I like how someone said "ITs just skill" when you take a aimed shot at a guy standing still 4-5x and he turns around near istandly and drops you in 1-2 bullet each time. Yeah.... smells like aimbot.

I ran around the corner aimed neck area and started shooting and died before my machine gun killed him. Most shots bitting body/head area... 1 or 2x is lucky 5x in a row... not so believable

Edit:
Most dodgy thing last 24 hours.... seeing a flying ant 3x in a row

The flying ant thing is a physics "issue" unless they're able to control it like a jet or something.

You can do the turbo ant tree, then fill up the turbo entirely with cortium, find a big rock on Amerish that gets you pointed upwards then if you're at the right angle you'll fly in a straight line at roughly the same altitude as take off across the map.

Thought about using some strategies to drop on points that way, but kind of a toss up on launch angle.

You can even drive on the esamir warpgate buble shield if you have turbo on the ant, and knows how.

[Re𝕯isia]

LostLogicUnit původně napsal:

MBT -> UA původně napsal:

The flying ant thing is a physics "issue" unless they're able to control it like a jet or something.

You can do the turbo ant tree, then fill up the turbo entirely with cortium, find a big rock on Amerish that gets you pointed upwards then if you're at the right angle you'll fly in a straight line at roughly the same altitude as take off across the map.

Thought about using some strategies to drop on points that way, but kind of a toss up on launch angle.

You can even drive on the esamir warpgate buble shield if you have turbo on the ant, and knows how.

it was going sideways relatively high up 2x and 1x straight somewhat lower

[Pervy]

Re𝕯isia původně napsal:

LostLogicUnit původně napsal:

You can even drive on the esamir warpgate buble shield if you have turbo on the ant, and knows how.

it was going sideways relatively high up 2x and 1x straight somewhat lower

Was it like proper flying, or did it look like it was teleporting? Or did it look like it was floating off, and when you saw it was there other weird things?

[POWER WITHIN USER]

Saw someone flying while speedhacking on a corsair, would have been hilarious if it wasn't an enemy or if it didn't have gunners, still somewhat funny.

[Locklave]

BgDkDaddy původně napsal:

a clear sign there's cheating in this game and its always Red team.

You'd know if the players in your faction are cheating right? Because you'd just know or they'd tell you right. "Red team".

I'm willing to bet if we had all the stats we don't know that the numbers would be uniform across all factions based mainly on current population by %.

Don't quote me and agree if you want to say stupid biased one sided things. Because your team cheats just as much, it's an all faction problem.

[johna]

The game has never had a working anti cheat. Battleye is only allowed to flag players, not ban them, as in other games and a spokesman for DBG - RadarX - admitted long ago that the ingame report tool is just placebo. More than a few of the high profile players are togglers. There are good reasons why the game has such a bad reputation for this in particular.

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johna původně napsal:

The game has never had a working anti cheat. Battleye is only allowed to flag players, not ban them, as in other games and a spokesman for DBG - RadarX - admitted long ago that the ingame report tool is just placebo. More than a few of the high profile players are togglers. There are good reasons why the game has such a bad reputation for this in particular.

mad cause bad.

[Verdeth]

what cheaters in ps2 no way, those headshots 300m away with an lmg are legit, or helbard kills from a 200m distant fullspeed driving harrasser, or esf instantly shooting down other ones in 2 s. I see no problem in these