Pc build EXCLUSIVE for PS2 (for nooooob with techs)...!!!

[Taurnil Luinwe]

Hi. I want to build a new pc to play ONLY Planetside 2. I DO NOT CARE for other games. About a week now i read and i read and... I don't know anything about technical numbers and things like that, e.g. i don't know what overclock is and really.. i don't care to find out. All i want is to push power button, open the pc, start the PS2 and play a DECENT, i repeat, a DECENT game. I DON'T CARE to put all settings to HIGH or ULTRA... i want to snipe as an infiltrator and see my target clear... and if i find myself at large battles to play them with DECENT frames. Also i don't care if the build is with items from 2015. If i can find them at the market, its ok. That all. If someone think that can help me to build a BUDGET pc just for this game i will be much obliged. Case, hard drive, windows 10 64 bit, these i can take care myself. For the others i can't reach to conclusion what i need, what to use and this is were i need your help, just in titles because if you start to explain why this and why that i will not understand a think... ;)

Thank you and sorry if my English are not so good.

[Crunktanium]

Diposting pertama kali oleh GoblinRum:

It's also nvidia optimized.

Marketing jargon 101

[Turret Master]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Glowth:

If you want to run this game you should invest in a good i7. People saying get an i5 have no idea what they are talking about.
Running GTX 970
i5-4690k
8gb ram

Bottlenecked by CPU. Get that i7 or suffer.

Edit: Preferrably an i7 with atleast 4.00 GHz stock horsepower :) 4 cores minimum.

In opposition to Glowth's comment, I'm just going to say that for Planetside 2 and gaming in general at 1080p and 60 fps, a high end I5 is quite sufficient. Go ahead and get an I7 if you want to future proof, but for gaming, an I7 is unnecessary.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh TurretMaster97:

In opposition to Glowth's comment, I'm just going to say that for Planetside 2 and gaming in general at 1080p and 60 fps, a high end I5 is quite sufficient. Go ahead and get an I7 if you want to future proof, but for gaming, an I7 is unnecessary.

i3 vs i5 vs i7 is relative. Each generation changes enough that an i3 of today kills the i7 of yesterday 9/10 times for a much lower price and power consumption. http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-860-vs-Intel-Core-i3-6320/m841vs3535

There is no such thing as future proof. Even my current CPU is showing it's age and I'd wager few people playing Planetside 2 can compete with it. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=744540174

[Taurnil Luinwe]

Diposting pertama kali oleh B_Bozo:

Go with the RX 460 over the 750Ti. It is newer and more powerful for about the same price.

You mean something like that..?:

- Sapphire Radeon RX460 2GB (11257-00)

Question. What counts at a graphic card, the processor speed, the memory speed or something else..??

[B4rr]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Taurnil Luinwe:

Diposting pertama kali oleh B_Bozo:

Go with the RX 460 over the 750Ti. It is newer and more powerful for about the same price.

You mean something like that..?:

- Sapphire Radeon RX460 2GB (11257-00)

Question. What counts at a graphic card, the processor speed, the memory speed or something else..??

When it comes to PS2 none of these really matter unless it's a really, really old card.
It varies in other games, but mostly a higher GPU clock gives you higher peak FPS, while a higher memory speed reduces FPS dips.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Taurnil Luinwe:

Question. What counts at a graphic card, the processor speed, the memory speed or something else..??

The architecture of the GPU itself or how the chip is made makes most of those things pointless. My Friend has a GTX970 that he runs GPU@1400mhz and memory @8000mhz. My GTX980ti absolutely demolishes his card even when running GPU@1000mhz and memory @7000mhz. You really do need to consider how much memory a card has to make sure it has enough to function properly at the resolution you want. 2gb is plenty for 1080p in 90% of games.

The best way to compare performance in my opinion is to look up "Benchmarks" (Predefined tests for hardware) of the graphics card/cards you want to compare. In a perfect world you want to have a test where the rest of the computer is the same to make sure that other parts aren't affecting it.

Some good places to look:
http://www.userbenchmark.com (My favourite as it is submitted by users like you and I with real world systems and multiple tests)
http://www.3dmark.com (Use the results section to see how the hardware you want to compare performs in many tests)
https://www.youtube.com/ (Get side by side videos to see the differences)
http://www.gpureview.com (Not updated often but very good information)
http://gpuboss.com (Good easy to read site. Some of the benchmarks are broken and show false information such as a GTX 750ti being more powerful than an RX 460 or a GTX 950 in some cases when it isn't even a contest for either of them...)

[Taurnil Luinwe]

Diposting pertama kali oleh B4rr:

When it comes to PS2 none of these really matter unless it's a really, really old card.
It varies in other games, but mostly a higher GPU clock gives you higher peak FPS, while a higher memory speed reduces FPS dips.

So if i choose a card that have them both high, it will be a good choose, that is what i understand.
Lets say something like XFX Radeon RX 460 4GB OC (RX-460P4SFG5) at 131,17 euro perhaps...??

[B4rr]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Taurnil Luinwe:

Diposting pertama kali oleh B4rr:

When it comes to PS2 none of these really matter unless it's a really, really old card.
It varies in other games, but mostly a higher GPU clock gives you higher peak FPS, while a higher memory speed reduces FPS dips.

So if i choose a card that have them both high, it will be a good choose, that is what i understand.
Lets say something like XFX Radeon RX 460 4GB OC (RX-460P4SFG5) at 131,17 euro perhaps...??

For this game, that is more than sufficient. For PS2 alone, you should put your money in 8GB of RAM, a (small) SSD, and the best single core performance intel quad core you can afford.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Taurnil Luinwe:

So if i choose a card that have them both high, it will be a good choose, that is what i understand.
Lets say something like XFX Radeon RX 460 4GB OC (RX-460P4SFG5) at 131,17 euro perhaps...??

https://youtu.be/AhXcKFMpCtc
As I said before there is a lot more to it than clock speeds. As you can see in this video of five different games the GTX 950 is still a stronger performer than the RX 460. Another thing to consider as GoblinRum has mentioned Planetside 2 favors Nvidia hardware over AMD. The RX 460 is still a strong card for the money but will be beaten by the GTX 950 and matched by the GTX 750 ti for your purpose.

[Taurnil Luinwe]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ∫öĿ Vξċŧøг:

As you can see in this video of five different games the GTX 950 is still a stronger performer than the RX 460. Another thing to consider as GoblinRum has mentioned Planetside 2 favors Nvidia hardware over AMD. The RX 460 is still a strong card for the money but will be beaten by the GTX 950 and matched by the GTX 750 ti for your purpose.

At numbers, as i see it, RX 460 is a little better than the GTX 750 ti, but yea ok, you can say RX 460 matched by the GTX 750 ti. But guys, you must admit that at this video, if you remove the FPS counters and the which is which, the simple eye can't see the difference even if they are side by side or, if you prefer, it's very very difficult to do that...!!! And for this i think all these discussions for better cpu or gpu sometimes are pointless. You must be a real professional to recognize the differences and most of us are not. Its the same thing with the pictures and which camera is the best at pixels. A normal eye can't see the difference between e.g. 5-6 mp and 13-14 mp. But all we run to buy the bigger one.... And the market wins.. your pocket loose.

I think, so far, the best build for my pocket is the last i posted:

Intel Core i3-6100 Box ............... 116,00 €
Palit GeForce GTX750 Ti 2GB Ti StormX OC (NE5X75TSHD41F) ............... 125,02 €
Asrock H110M-DVS/D3 ................. 52,50 €
Crucial 8GB DDR4-2133MHz (CT8G4DFD8213) ................... 31,20 €
EVGA 500B Bronze .................. 60,55 €
Intenso High Performance 120GB ...................... 39,21 €
Aerocool QS-240 .................. 28,40 €


TOTAL: 452.88 euro

(or with XFX Radeon RX 460 4GB OC (RX-460P4SFG5) at 131,17 euro)

[GoblinRum]

The game uses 1.7 GB VRAM, so younger fine with a 750ti. So the above build is the best so far. I agree with the OP on this one.

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That build will work fine for Planetside 2.

I will however continue to recommend the i3 6300/GTX 950 as well worth the ~50€ more, because even a 10fps difference is HUGE if a large battle with a lot going on drops you below 30...

[Taurnil Luinwe]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ∫öĿ Vξċŧøг:

That build will work fine for Planetside 2.

I will however continue to recommend the i3 6300/GTX 950 as well worth the ~50€ more,,,,

My dear friend, the problem is that at this exact time i can't even afford the 450 euro and spend them will be a luxury but be sure that if i could spare 500 i will buy your recommendation, i don't have a problem with that... :)

[DROPbear]

Try looking for used pc parts especially gpus, a year old, mid range card are usually dirt cheap. Most cases with mid range cards 500watts is a bit overkill. Assemble the parts yourself to cut some cost.

Also always get an I5 especially ps2 is so heavy cpu bound

[Taurnil Luinwe]

Diposting pertama kali oleh y3ivan:

Try looking for used pc parts especially gpus, a year old, mid range card are usually dirt cheap. Most cases with mid range cards 500watts is a bit overkill. Assemble the parts yourself to cut some cost.

Also always get an I5 especially ps2 is so heavy cpu bound

Thank you for your recommendations. As for the i5 i already said that it's matter of pocket. My pocket...

I don't want to tire all of you anymore. Thanks a lot for your recommendations, i think i got a clue for what at least i must build to play descend PS2.
And i hope that this discussion will help more like me out there..!!

Never the less, if someone has still a better offer, for the same budget, pls be free to share it with us...!!! :)