Friendly Fire Finally Off?

[Sir_0v3rk1ll]

I am happy about it, dont get me wrong. But, a lot of ppl have been asking for this for so many years and now they do it? You have any idea how many people left and will never come back cause of the friendly fire? What's going to happen next? You are finally going to balance the game and only make the skins different but stats the same across weapons? Please dont wait so long to make changes. This game is old and I dont want to see it die off even more. If you dont make some changes by the time BF6 comes out in a few months this game will be done for. Hopefully people will stay cause of friendly fire and some might even come back. But, listen to the player base and make changes on time.

[RedT1ger]

it's very bad news.

[Nokta]

It's for april's fools. Just until April 5th, then it should be back to normal.

And honestly "listent to the playerbase" it's a controversial statement. You don't represent the entirety of the playerbase. I for instance wouldn't want friendly fire gone.

Friendly fire keeps the already obnoxious spam this game has in check. If anyone could spam at their leisure with complete disregard for friendlies in the way, the quality of the fights, which is already terrible for infantry, would be even worse which is what we are seeing these days.

[GrimtyGray]

Publicado originalmente por Nokta:

It's for april's fools. Just until April 5th, then it should be back to normal.

And honestly "listent to the playerbase" it's a controversial statement. You don't represent the entirety of the playerbase. I for instance wouldn't want friendly fire gone.

Friendly fire keeps the already obnoxious spam this game has in check. If anyone could spam at their leisure with complete disregard for friendlies in the way, the quality of the fights, which is already terrible for infantry, would be even worse which is what we are seeing these days.

"Hey we removed one of the mechanics that players didn't like from the game"
*Applause*
"As an April Fools joke to give you hope that we actually care, so that we can dash it and push the hell out of the bundles"
*Boos*

[KND2501]

I think its a good joke, and no friendly fire needs to stay, its war and people die in unfortunate ways, thats just the way it is.

[esturias]

Turning off FF would be a very bad idea, for obvious reasons. It's a very important balancing tool. Removing it would dumb down the game a lot and open the doors for an even more stupid and boring meta.

No idea who those "a lot of people" are who asked for that.

[Vayde Knyght]

Wait, who actually wants friendly fire to be permanently removed? It's an important feature of the game.
High-yield Tactical Facepalm dropped.

[Therontakai]

Publicado originalmente por KND2501:

I think its a good joke, and no friendly fire needs to stay, its war and people die in unfortunate ways, thats just the way it is.

You'd have a point if half the playerbase could tell the difference between friend and foe. I'm colorblind. Changing icons over people's heads in a fast-paced shooter is useless seeing as by the time i see it i'm either about to die, or aim at a friendly.

To add to it, playing NC or VS i almost every time can't tell the difference between friend or foe by looking at them (TR is different, because, well, they're red. not blue or DARKER BLUE). To add to it. i've been in more than my fair share of firefights where i'm fighting NC or VS depending on my current side, only to barely win out with a smidge of health, some friendly comes around the corner, sees the guy drop, turns towards me and instinctively fires.

Since you want to go "it's war, deal with it" VS and NC's colors are too close together, if this "is war". Most any time two factions face off and find their sides looking too similar, one of them will change because of collateral casualties on their side. Yet neither VS or NC have done so. Why? Because the devs didn't put as much thought into the "it's war" idea as you're trying to give it credit for.

To add to it, they penalize you for killing friendlies. If we're talking about "it's war. deal with it" again, like you're proposing, guess what, in most cases of friendly fire where someone dies or is injured? no charges come up on the person, because it is viewed as an accidental casualty. Which would mean removing the penalty. WHICH would mean giving griefers more power.

[Vayde Knyght]

Publicado originalmente por Therontakai:

Publicado originalmente por KND2501:

I think its a good joke, and no friendly fire needs to stay, its war and people die in unfortunate ways, thats just the way it is.

You'd have a point if half the playerbase could tell the difference between friend and foe. I'm colorblind. Changing icons over people's heads in a fast-paced shooter is useless seeing as by the time i see it i'm either about to die, or aim at a friendly.

To add to it, playing NC or VS i almost every time can't tell the difference between friend or foe by looking at them (TR is different, because, well, they're red. not blue or DARKER BLUE). To add to it. i've been in more than my fair share of firefights where i'm fighting NC or VS depending on my current side, only to barely win out with a smidge of health, some friendly comes around the corner, sees the guy drop, turns towards me and instinctively fires.

Since you want to go "it's war, deal with it" VS and NC's colors are too close together, if this "is war". Most any time two factions face off and find their sides looking too similar, one of them will change because of collateral casualties on their side. Yet neither VS or NC have done so. Why? Because the devs didn't put as much thought into the "it's war" idea as you're trying to give it credit for.

To add to it, they penalize you for killing friendlies. If we're talking about "it's war. deal with it" again, like you're proposing, guess what, in most cases of friendly fire where someone dies or is injured? no charges come up on the person, because it is viewed as an accidental casualty. Which would mean removing the penalty. WHICH would mean giving griefers more power.

Hi. As a colorblind person, myself, I'd like to share with you the following:
You can change the colors for each faction in Settings>Interface, on the right-side column.

[Therontakai]

Publicado originalmente por Vayde_Knyght:

Publicado originalmente por Therontakai:

You'd have a point if half the playerbase could tell the difference between friend and foe. I'm colorblind. Changing icons over people's heads in a fast-paced shooter is useless seeing as by the time i see it i'm either about to die, or aim at a friendly.

To add to it, playing NC or VS i almost every time can't tell the difference between friend or foe by looking at them (TR is different, because, well, they're red. not blue or DARKER BLUE). To add to it. i've been in more than my fair share of firefights where i'm fighting NC or VS depending on my current side, only to barely win out with a smidge of health, some friendly comes around the corner, sees the guy drop, turns towards me and instinctively fires.

Since you want to go "it's war, deal with it" VS and NC's colors are too close together, if this "is war". Most any time two factions face off and find their sides looking too similar, one of them will change because of collateral casualties on their side. Yet neither VS or NC have done so. Why? Because the devs didn't put as much thought into the "it's war" idea as you're trying to give it credit for.

To add to it, they penalize you for killing friendlies. If we're talking about "it's war. deal with it" again, like you're proposing, guess what, in most cases of friendly fire where someone dies or is injured? no charges come up on the person, because it is viewed as an accidental casualty. Which would mean removing the penalty. WHICH would mean giving griefers more power.

Hi. As a colorblind person, myself, I'd like to share with you the following:
You can change the colors for each faction in Settings>Interface, on the right-side column.

Hi. I've done that. I still can't see the difference in UNIFORM between NC and VS. they're basically the same color and in the time it takes to differentiate shape it's too late.

[Vayde Knyght]

Publicado originalmente por Therontakai:

Publicado originalmente por Vayde_Knyght:

Hi. As a colorblind person, myself, I'd like to share with you the following:
You can change the colors for each faction in Settings>Interface, on the right-side column.

Hi. I've done that. I still can't see the difference in UNIFORM between NC and VS. they're basically the same color and in the time it takes to differentiate shape it's too late.

Oh. Their shapes and textures are so different in my eyes, I never thought about that being problematic. That's unfortunate.

[Therontakai]

Publicado originalmente por Vayde_Knyght:

Publicado originalmente por Therontakai:

Hi. I've done that. I still can't see the difference in UNIFORM between NC and VS. they're basically the same color and in the time it takes to differentiate shape it's too late.

Oh. Their shapes and textures are so different in my eyes, I never thought about that being problematic. That's unfortunate.

Yeah. I took to moving away from groups to keep from accidentally firing on allies, though that also means i rarely get a proper fight where i don't die moments later.

[Sir_0v3rk1ll]

oh nice the game is back to being horrible and boring again. being killed by every teammate out there. nice very nice. Daybreak is going to come online one day to find only 30 idiots running around supporting their game. April fools days was the best gameplay Ive ever had in PS2 history. It is sad and pathetic. The jokes on them.

[KND2501]

Publicado originalmente por Therontakai:

You'd have a point if half the playerbase could tell the difference between friend and foe. I'm colorblind. Changing icons over people's heads in a fast-paced shooter is useless seeing as by the time i see it i'm either about to die, or aim at a friendly.

Sorry to hear your condition affects the gameplay, but for those that can see color it is a vital means of identifying friend or foe.

The best solution would be the implimentation of a feature that would assist people who have one type of colorblindness or another. The least you can do is write DB and explain them the problems you encounter and ask them if they can help the game in assisting people with colorblindness.

I am guessing your are blind to the color red, because purple without red is blue, and you see two blue teams NC and Vanu, and TR is just dark red probably. I suggest you assign dark color to friendlies, and use a bright color to indicate the enemies so they stand out.

But even i who isn't colorblind doesnt always notice in time wether someone is friend or foe, i can assure you this is not just you being colorblind, we all have our moments where we have to process the possibility and sometimes judge wrongly.

[esturias]

Publicado originalmente por 0V3RK1LL:

oh nice the game is back to being horrible and boring again. being killed by every teammate out there. nice very nice. Daybreak is going to come online one day to find only 30 idiots running around supporting their game. April fools days was the best gameplay Ive ever had in PS2 history. It is sad and pathetic. The jokes on them.

Do you count yourself to those 30 players?
And did you read and understand any of the comments that people posted here?

[Bob]

I will never understand how some people die to FF as often as they claim.

Regardless of my curiosity on that subject, I wouldn't play a big shooter with a lot of explosive weapons if a team could just breach areas with a spam of grenades coming in with them... what a cluster of crap that is.

FF keeps it somewhat tactical. Players have to think before rushing in and pay attention to what their teammates are doing, or were doing before they arrived.