Too many cheaters!

[Bobile]

I have been playing this game for a while now and i can't tell you how many times I've seen people use collision cheats with aimbot in this game this is specially true if you play in SolTech. Most of these cheaters are inside rocks, caches in the capture points or even underground and one cheater can flip the game into the enemy's favor.
DB needs to work on how to get rid of this cheaters, i frequently encounter this type of cheaters in SolTech and is ruining the game for many players. Can't the Devs put like some sort of Instant Death or DoT for these players if they're inside debris or something else for some period of time.

Edit: Idk if other servers has a big cheater problem, but in SolTech we occasionally see cheaters/exploiters

Edit 2: SolTech needs help from the mods ASAP

[esturias]

I'm still not entirely sure about the subject of cheaters - I've seen two obvious ones so far, which isn't much, but I also had countless cases where I simply blamed the circumstances on lag and the horrible hitreg. I'm pretty sure that some of those players were cheaters, too.

Glitching and abusing all kinds of stuff - yes, that's definitely an issue.
Be it minor stuff like LAs glitching up towers or trees where they are basically invincible and can place spawn thingies or really gamebreaking stuff like glitching into objects, so they can shoot everything around and decide the outcome of a battle.
If you also think about all those glitch areas and the countless stuckspots all over the map, it's quite shocking that the maps are still that badly optimised and still allow for so much abuse, when the game is already 8 years old.

[Shamo]

This game is so old, i think the companys policy is to let the cheaters roam free until they get bored and leave. Much cheaper than putting any resources into detection or moderation.

[Bobile]

I've encountered lots of cheaters in SolTech that're inside objects and are pretty much immortal, I've seen them jump from 1 region to another and are always inside some object or underneath the ground. It's a real pain to deal with them specially if you're on the opposing faction and these cheaters chooses to attack your faction and lose more than 10% of your faction's territory.

It would be really nice if these players gets punished faster so that they don't ruin the entire game

[esturias]

Originally posted by Coekie:

I also agree that the people that abuse the glitches should get a faster and harder punish.

Definitely. On the EU server, there is a whole VS outfit that constantly abuses everything available. Whenever you see players pulling off really cheesey things, chances are high that it's one of them.

[Pervy]

Originally posted by Shamo:

This game is so old, i think the companys policy is to let the cheaters roam free until they get bored and leave. Much cheaper than putting any resources into detection or moderation.

I can see why you would think that. But its not the case.
Ban evasion is rather easie if you know how to.
Its a free game and its not the high BR's thats the cheaters it tend to be the low BR ones.
thats the clues i can give you.

[Pekmez Pita]

Yeah. The no clipping has become a daily ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ occurrence on Connery. Every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ alert!

The VS alone are riddled with Chinese cheaters on that server.

[Poppy Sing]

Yeah, on Connery, I run into VS and things seem to slow down, only thing that doesn't slow down is me dying.
Every game seems to be getting ruined by cheats/hacks/exploits these days.
May as wrel just open the floodgates and use whatever "enhancement" you can get hold of and level the playing field, because i'm getting sick of it.
Develop it into the game ?

[Pervy]

Originally posted by Poppy Sing:

Yeah, on Connery, I run into VS and things seem to slow down, only thing that doesn't slow down is me dying.
Every game seems to be getting ruined by cheats/hacks/exploits these days.
May as wrel just open the floodgates and use whatever "enhancement" you can get hold of and level the playing field, because i'm getting sick of it.
Develop it into the game ?

Seems like you guys have it bad on the US servers.
Not all servers are like them tho.

[GrimRJak]

Probably one of the biggest reasons why I as a new player wont actually put down money for the game atleast for a very long time. I cant tell if it was player kills me with sharpened skill, latancy or cheats which kills the learning experience a bit negating a part of the reward for playing when you know you, cant know for sure.

Fair game seems like an illusion.

[Pervy]

Originally posted by GrimRJak:

Probably one of the biggest reasons why I as a new player wont actually put down money for the game atleast for a very long time. I cant tell if it was player kills me with sharpened skill, latancy or cheats which kills the learning experience a bit negating a part of the reward for playing when you know you, cant know for sure.

Fair game seems like an illusion.

The kill cam was added to make it easier to know, didt help much sadly.
It can be very frustrating, not knowing if the person who killed you are good or cheating.
If you dont know what good play looks like, it can be hard to tell cheating apart from skilled play.

The US servers are more frustrating, since alot of people who are not American play on them with higher latancy.

A tip here would be.
The low levels that does good is either:
1. Cheater.
2. A smurf.

[Carl]

Originally posted by Coekie:

Originally posted by esturias:

I'm still not entirely sure about the subject of cheaters - I've seen two obvious ones so far, which isn't much, but I also had countless cases where I simply blamed the circumstances on lag and the horrible hitreg. I'm pretty sure that some of those players were cheaters, too.

Glitching and abusing all kinds of stuff - yes, that's definitely an issue.
Be it minor stuff like LAs glitching up towers or trees where they are basically invincible and can place spawn thingies or really gamebreaking stuff like glitching into objects, so they can shoot everything around and decide the outcome of a battle.
If you also think about all those glitch areas and the countless stuckspots all over the map, it's quite shocking that the maps are still that badly optimised and still allow for so much abuse, when the game is already 8 years old.

I agree with you here. I encountered maybe 10 realcheaters at max in my 1600 hours of play. Most of the time its just a awful hitreg or lag that makes you question if its a cheater or not. Sometimes you shoot people that are already passed the corner and still get the kill and it makes you feel bad when it happens to new people that think you are cheating and are not aware yet of these quirks in this game.

I also agree that the people that abuse the glitches should get a faster and harder punish.

I agree with both of you, havent encountered many cheaters during like 3-4 years of my game time with pauses. Mostly it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥ hitreg, hit delay/lag, glitches and MOST OFTEN circumstances. And those who say that low level is a cheater I can tell that it's more likely an old player or at least not a new one who made another account/char just to spend his certs more wisely or to focus on other class/directives, hell some even make new chars after they get more experienced so their K/D ratio wouldnt look as miserable.

[The Salamander]

As someone who has 52 days of playtime on one character alone, mostly in the last three years, I can say cheaters are very, very rare. I have seen four hackers, and two instances of routers being placed under the map in that time. I have been accused of being a hacker on the other hand more times than I can count and I know I'm not one, I'm not even good.

The problem is planetside 2 is a very different game to any other FPS. If you expect to only die because of being out skilled or latency or hacks you're doing it wrong. Planetside 2's skill mostly lies in positioning, communication, perception and tactics, and only when those are about even does it come down to head clicking and crouch spamming.

[Ghostvenger92]

i miss the old days when every battle was a fair fight, and also seems like NC has gotten alot of nerfs, it takes alot longer to kill compared to playing on Vanu or TR side

[Bobile]

Originally posted by Ghostvenger92:

i miss the old days when every battle was a fair fight, and also seems like NC has gotten alot of nerfs, it takes alot longer to kill compared to playing on Vanu or TR side

Here in SolTech, NC is the most populated one with almost 60% population every morning till server peak time somewhere around 6pm (GMT +8), the rest of the factions are either 20-30% or 15-20% LOL

[esturias]

The servers are melting again, hitreg lags of 1-2 seconds, got teamkilled countless times in the process, but I also spotted another obvious cheater.
Flagpoint captured and held by 5 teammates and even a tank. Two enemies rushing in, already spotted, so all guns were pointed in their direction. I was BELOW the entrance spot, the enemy jumped over my cover and instantly killed me (with his back facing me!) and two other teammates in a second, before I even aimed down my sights. He was killed shortly after and his teammate, too. We held the point and got the base, but still. The game is once again unplayable. I'm once again sitting around the spawnroom, firing guided missiles, because there is no chance to do anything else.