Real infiltrators only use power knives and a stalker cloak.

[Winter cruise]

Rest are just wimpy snipers who think they're helping out.

Out of my way stabby maggie is coming through!

[B4rr]

Power knife stalkers are nearly just as useless as hilltop snipers in my experience. The most useful are usually CQC bolters or SMG infils that are actually placing recon and killing people that are not stray newbies on the side of battles.

[Sithis]

引用自 B4rr：

Power knife stalkers are nearly just as useless as hilltop snipers in my experience. The most useful are usually CQC bolters or SMG infils that are actually placing recon and killing people that are not stray newbies on the side of battles.

I also remind you that snipers who know a thing or two about placement can take out an entire line of defenses that their team was failing to assault head-on.

[B4rr]

引用自 Sithis：

引用自 B4rr：

Power knife stalkers are nearly just as useless as hilltop snipers in my experience. The most useful are usually CQC bolters or SMG infils that are actually placing recon and killing people that are not stray newbies on the side of battles.

I also remind you that snipers who know a thing or two about placement can take out an entire line of defenses that their team was failing to assault head-on.

Those are almost always CQC bolters. You don't get to kill a lot of people competent enough to prevent allies from pushing from a 150m distance.

[Sithis]

引用自 B4rr：

引用自 Sithis：

I also remind you that snipers who know a thing or two about placement can take out an entire line of defenses that their team was failing to assault head-on.

Those are almost always CQC bolters. You don't get to kill a lot of people competent enough to prevent allies from pushing from a 150m distance.

If you chose your position well - you can. First, targeting engineers on bigger frontlines - personally took part in a small three-player 'raid' on NC front on Amerish where, in about three minutes, it just so happened that all fifteen-ish Lightnings, Harassers and Vanguards simply stood there, empty, after we blew up their Sundy and picked off engineers as they disembark to repair it (by the way, that amount of pilotless machines looks downright eerie); on Amerish again, it is quite possible to pick off medics through multiple windows in buildings, all the while you're about 150m-200m away from the target; it is also quite possible to pick off entire frontlines with just one to three snipers on Hossin (less so on Esamir since it offers little cover).

Then again, I'd say that long-range snipers (200m+) are typically in the league of their own, mostly countersniping or taking out stationary targets, thus being less useful, and I agree that most "action-packed" and noticeably effective "sniping" happens on around 100 to 200 meters, leaning more towards the 100-150m, true.

[Amanoob105]

NOOOBBBB!!!!!
Right, now that's out of my system.
As said above stalker cloakers, which I am very fond of being one of, that do nothing in a fight but try to knife others are about as much help as infi's that do nothing but snipe at any random target they can see.

A stalker that wants to be of use it best when doing a mix of placing radar's (motion spotters), hacking terminals, picking of key targets (medic's and engi's mostly), making the act of taking back the point as big a pain as possible and otherwise being a giant pain in the enemys @$$ to the point their offen to busy trying to hunt you down to be of any use in the larger fight.

As for snipers, there's two main types. Those that just try to get kills, i.e. the bad ones. And those that spot everything and everyone that they can see as their shooting, while trying to make a point of shooting the medics and anyone else that looks to be doing the most good for the enemy. As a sniper you will offen be in a spot to have a good veiw of the battle, the better your veiw the more targets you can see. A good sniper will try to make it so the people on the ground can also see as many of the enemys on their map that the sniper can see from their nest. Some of which now have less health than when the sniper first saw them, depending on the skill of the sniper to head-shot vs body-shot.

I don't do a lot of CQC bolting so I can't say much here. But I do know that you need to know where the enemy is as much as you can so as to not get caught with your trousers down, which offen means heavy use of radar's, which in turn helps anyone else in the same area of the fight.

Then there's the SMG and scout users. The most obvious way they can help is much the same as above. Any more I can say on them (this is the type of infi I've played the most of my time in this game, mostly because for most of the time I've played stalker cloaks weren't a thing) would take another page of words to itself and I think I've added enough words to this for today as is.

[Pielord]

If you like knife primary I also recommend Light Assault, using a jumppad to flank a biolab air pad stalemate I've gone on some crazy streaks and occasionally even cleared out the whole thing, no invisibility required.

Can't wait to unlock the throwing knife to add some silent ranged takedowns.

[Richard the Treacherous]

Only casuals use the power knife. Real men use the default knife.

[R.A.T. Army *MST3K*]

I love my carver to death. Half my time playing PS2 is spent as an invisible blade in the night.

[VraN]

Real infiltraitors infiltrate... hack, scout, spot, make chaos, distract and control, co-op, lead enemy to line of sight of your mates... pick enemy MVPs, do focus and kill other infiltrators, do go kill snipers, flankers, roof fairies, reloading rocket heavies and so defend choke and reinforce points... support teammates with better overview, focus, spot and momentum.
(SMGs and scout rifles are best)

[Winter cruise]

Stalkers are good for a lot of things. Like getting behind enemy lines undetected and backstabbing people, getting rid of other infils, clearing out rooms. And capturing points.....Smg infils make great cannon fodder and not much else. They're just light assult troopers with a smaller health pool.

[Salami Tsunami]

Yeah, stalkers are great. It's just the knives that are useless.

[Winter cruise]

引用自 Macbeth：

Yeah, stalkers are great. It's just the knives that are useless.

Knife hitboxes are tricky. You gotta get used to them.

[Salami Tsunami]

引用自 Iorn：

引用自 Macbeth：

Yeah, stalkers are great. It's just the knives that are useless.

Knife hitboxes are tricky. You gotta get used to them.

Yeah, I'd rather get used to a Comissioner. Far more practical.

[Winter cruise]

引用自 Macbeth：

引用自 Iorn：

Knife hitboxes are tricky. You gotta get used to them.

Yeah, I'd rather get used to a Comissioner. Far more practical.

When you git gud with prime time knife wielding
you'll be like this dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FTya_31JUk

[Xilo The Odd]

i've killed with the Amatsu, from the back of a moving harraser.