PlanetSide 2

PlanetSide 2

Stellar Fox Jul 16, 2019 @ 8:19am
the enemies kill me in a few shots while i need 20-25 to kill them?
i'm pretty new to the game. in almost every 1v1 fight where we see each other at the same time the enemy usually destroys me in half a second as soon as i peak my head around the corner and i only manage to destroy half of their shield. i use the lmg of the red faction that you get for free on heavy assault. i only go for bodyshots because everytime i aim at their head the bullets never hit, at least if i aim at the body i can actually damage them. recoil isnt a problem for me since guns here have almost no recoil
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Karnage Jul 16, 2019 @ 9:10am 
There are a few possible reasons for this. First and foremost, as you yourself have said, you avoid headshots. Headshots can dramatically reduce the time to kill. Maybe they are using weapons better suited for the range of those engagements. If you're fighting VS, their projectile hitboxes can become huge thanks to an empire exclusive weapon attachment on top of having no bullet drop. Because of this, it's very easy for all VS weaponry to land consistent headshots which can devastate new players such as yourself that aren't working towards hitting them in the head as well.

If you're fighting NC, they were and seemingly are still plagued with hackers using hitbox editors. If you run into NC that keep quickly and easily killing you up close even tho they are very clearly not aiming in your general direction, that's a giveaway that they are hacking. However, lag can also cause this. As far as all the US servers go, NC has consistently been full of some of the worst of the worst people on the planet. I'm talking about sociopaths, sexists, racists, hackers, exploiters, incels, etc.

That's just to be expected from a F2P game with silly client-side vulnerabilities. But while the community is in agreement that these hacks have been on the rise as of last year, that doesn't mean a huge amount of people are hacking. Some players have just been playing for so long that they have complete mastery of their weapons. So don't just assume everyone is a hacker, aside for the obvious cases.
Last edited by Karnage; Jul 16, 2019 @ 11:29am
B4rr Jul 16, 2019 @ 9:15am 
If you already have some other FPS experiences there are a few differences to, say, CoD of BF.
  • The TTK is higher. You need to hit 7 shots to kill a "normal" target at point blank, unless you shoot them in the head for 2x damage. So, you should shoot them in the head. The longer TTK also means tracking is valued higher than target acquisition, so having a low sensitivity is helpful (it should take you more than 20cm of mouse movement to make a 360° turn).
  • The CoF bloom (and reset) is quite strong and fast. Outside of hugging range you should burst (3-5 bullets, less at range, with split-second breaks between them) quickly, rather than going full auto.
  • Your gun is competitive. Don't spend your first Certs on buying any other weapons, use them to improve your ability (Adrenaline shield recharges more than the default, at least if you get more than one kill every two minutes) and get medkits.

EDIT: You also shouldn't trust the death-screen. It's known to bug out in larger fights and there are also implants that regenerate your opponents shield or health when they kill you.
Last edited by B4rr; Jul 16, 2019 @ 9:16am
Nokta Jul 16, 2019 @ 9:23am 
Omg, so much ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in this answer.

Originally posted by ❄️Snow:
If you're fighting VS, their projectiles have huge hit boxes

That's blatantly false. VS have normal rounds like every other factions. Their hitboxes aren't increased.

Originally posted by ❄️Snow:
that can be further increased with an attachment .
The attachment is only available on selected number of weapons (two) and if you equip it, the headshot damage gets reduced to the point that's it's virtually pointless going for headshots making them noob-friendly weapons but luckluster for any veteran that can actually hit the head for 2x damage.

Originally posted by ❄️Snow:
on top of having no bullet drop
No bullet drop is a meme trait that isn't worth anything in the range 99% of infantry fights happen which is <60m. And since VS bullets still drop for Sniper rilfes like for every other faction, it's absolutely pointless.

Originally posted by ❄️Snow:
Because of this, it's very easy for all VS weaponry to land consistent headshots which can devastate new players such as yourself

Stock VS weapons are easier to control then other faction starting guns, but for that increased accuracy you trade raw DPS and magazine size. It make it easier to stay on target, but it's a trade-off. You won't still hit headshots if you are a potato.


Originally posted by ❄️Snow:
If you're fighting NC, they were and seemingly are still plagued with hackers using hitbox editors. If you run into NC that keep quickly and easily killing you up close even tho they are very clearly not aiming in your general direction, that's a giveaway that they are hacking. However, lag can also cause this.

Cheaters are present for all factions. Not mainly NC. And 99.999 % of the times you get killed behind a corner or by somebody who's looking somewhere else or seemingly recieving the damage all together it's just lag and net-code related crap not cheating.




Last edited by Nokta; Jul 16, 2019 @ 9:24am
Nokta Jul 16, 2019 @ 9:26am 
Originally posted by Stellar fox:
i'm pretty new to the game. in almost every 1v1 fight where we see each other at the same time the enemy usually destroys me in half a second as soon as i peak my head around the corner and i only manage to destroy half of their shield. i use the lmg of the red faction that you get for free on heavy assault. i only go for bodyshots because everytime i aim at their head the bullets never hit, at least if i aim at the body i can actually damage them. recoil isnt a problem for me since guns here have almost no recoil

Try to go for headshots. If you get rekt is because the other guy does while you don't. Also, the CARV is a beast but difficult to control. Which attachments are you using on it?

Watch this, it might help you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeletlnJObk
Xilo The Odd Jul 16, 2019 @ 9:31am 
yeah i havnt seen a cheater in a long while. i play TR so typically when i do run into one they are playing on VS. their somewhat better accuracy on some of their default weapons makes em a prime choice for aimbotting. but again, i havnt seen one of those in a year. wall hacks are more likely but even then, its hard to tell if they are using em due to latency shenanigans. the safest bet is no matter the situation, treat yourself as visible to anyone and everyone and you'll never find yourself in a bad situation.
Last edited by Xilo The Odd; Jul 16, 2019 @ 9:32am
Stellar Fox Jul 16, 2019 @ 9:32am 
Originally posted by Nokta:
Originally posted by Stellar fox:
i'm pretty new to the game. in almost every 1v1 fight where we see each other at the same time the enemy usually destroys me in half a second as soon as i peak my head around the corner and i only manage to destroy half of their shield. i use the lmg of the red faction that you get for free on heavy assault. i only go for bodyshots because everytime i aim at their head the bullets never hit, at least if i aim at the body i can actually damage them. recoil isnt a problem for me since guns here have almost no recoil

Try to go for headshots. If you get rekt is because the other guy does while you don't. Also, the CARV is a beast but difficult to control. Which attachments are you using on it?

Watch this, it might help you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeletlnJObk
i've got no attachments on it except the sight it comes with. i'm trying not to spend my money since i dont know what to buy, ive got 1500 certs right now
Stellar Fox Jul 16, 2019 @ 9:33am 
thanks everyone for the help, i'll try to go more for headshots with burst fire rather than spray and aim for bodyshots
Karnage Jul 16, 2019 @ 10:12am 
Originally posted by Nokta:
Stuff
Nokta, chill. I wasn't trying to say that all VS weapons have huge hitboxes, only that VS has access to these weapons, which can explain certain situations OP may find themselves in where they are hitting them when they seemingly shouldn't be able to. Unstable ammo still gives a 20% damage increase to headshots, which is certainly worth going for considering the increase in the hitbox size. No one said anything about it being OP or being worthwhile for veterans. You forget this is a thread about a new player being decimated by other players.

In other words, someone that probably isn't strafe or crouch spamming and admits to avoiding headshots. Which means that those easy to use VS weapons would just be even easier to kill someone like Stellar Fox with, regardless of the skill level of the person using them. No bullet drop is irrelevant for most weapon types, but it can explain to someone new like the OP how/why all VS weapons are able to hit their mark at any range, even for weapon types with laughably low bullet velocity found on the other factions. You're being overly defensive and assuming that I'm trying to imply that VS is OP rather than just stating simple facts to a new player so that they can understand the game.
B4rr Jul 16, 2019 @ 10:42am 
Originally posted by ❄️Snow:
Nokta, chill. I wasn't trying to say that all VS weapons have huge hitboxes, only that VS has access to these weapons, which can explain certain situations OP may find themselves in where they are hitting them when they seemingly shouldn't be able to. Unstable ammo still gives a 20% damage increase to headshots, which is certainly worth going for considering the increase in the hitbox size. No one said anything about it being OP or being worthwhile for veterans. You forget this is a thread about a new player being decimated by other players.
Actually, unstable ammo makes the bullets larger, meaning they get stuck on edges earlier, so they don't lead to more clientside deaths.
Originally posted by ❄️Snow:
In other words, someone that probably isn't strafe or crouch spamming and admits to avoiding headshots. Which means that those easy to use VS weapons would just be even easier to kill someone like Stellar Fox with, regardless of the skill level of the person using them. No bullet drop is irrelevant for most weapon types, but it can explain to someone new like the OP how/why all VS weapons are able to hit their mark at any range, even for weapon types with laughably low bullet velocity found on the other factions. You're being overly defensive and assuming that I'm trying to imply that VS is OP rather than just stating simple facts to a new player so that they can understand the game.
At the ranges where you get near-instagibbed (which is what OP's question was about), bullet drop doesn't matter. If the post was about enemies being super accurate at range, you might have had a point, but then VS weapons also have lower muzzle velocity making it harder to hit moving targets with it.
Karnage Jul 16, 2019 @ 10:55am 
The OP didn't mention the range of these engagements. You just assumed as much.

"the enemies kill me in a few shots"
"the enemy usually destroys me in half a second"

Battle rifles and sniper rifles fit these parameters, even at long ranges.
Nokta Jul 16, 2019 @ 11:14am 


Originally posted by ❄️Snow:
Nokta, chill. I wasn't trying to say that all VS weapons have huge hitboxes, only that VS has access to these weapons

You might not have meant it, but that's what you did say.

Originally posted by ❄️Snow:
If you're fighting VS, their projectiles have huge hit boxes that can be further increased with an attachment

English is not my first language but I'm pretty confident then when you use further in a sentence like this it means piling on something that's already there in the first place. Meaning: you did say that VS bullets are bigger than the standard and that you can make them even bigger with Unstable Ammo, which is batantly false.

Also you went on ranting about NC being the cheating faction, so forgive me if I just assumed you were full of ♥♥♥♥.



Last edited by Nokta; Jul 16, 2019 @ 11:16am
Karnage Jul 16, 2019 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by Nokta:
Originally posted by ❄️Snow:
Nokta, chill. I wasn't trying to say that all VS weapons have huge hitboxes, only that VS has access to these weapons

You might not have meant it, but that's what you did say.

Originally posted by ❄️Snow:
If you're fighting VS, their projectiles have huge hit boxes that can be further increased with an attachment

English is not my first language but I'm pretty confident then when you use further in a sentence like this it means piling on something that's already there in the first place. Meaning: you did say that VS bullets are bigger than the standard and that you can make them even bigger with Unstable Ammo, which is batantly false.

Also you went on ranting about NC being the cheating faction, so forgive me if I just assumed you were full of ♥♥♥♥.
I see what you mean. I was trying to say that the attachment increases hitboxes, not that VS projectile hitboxes are larger to begin with. I'll fix that in my post. As for claiming that NC is the cheater faction, I did specify on the NA servers. If you are not aware, NC is the faction that was chosen by a few well known hacker communities on the web.

Some of which were playing NC to troll TotalBiscuit, Angry Joe and the various other influencers that keep going TR.
OIympicAssEater Jul 16, 2019 @ 11:27am 
Always aim for the head.
Stellar Fox Jul 16, 2019 @ 12:02pm 
Originally posted by ❄️Snow:
The OP didn't mention the range of these engagements. You just assumed as much.

"the enemies kill me in a few shots"
"the enemy usually destroys me in half a second"

Battle rifles and sniper rifles fit these parameters, even at long ranges.
if i get one shot headshot by a sniper as i was running out in the open i know it was just my fault, i was talking about getting instakilled in most 1v1 short range fights with assault rifles, smgs.
B4rr Jul 16, 2019 @ 1:24pm 
Oh, one more thing. The game has no match-making is already rather old. So, there's quite a few people around who have played the game for hundreds, if not thousands of hours. You're going up against them, as well as other brand new players.
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