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rookie Apr 22, 2017 @ 3:33pm
Why does Emerald suck at server smashes?
I just watched some of todays server smash and emerald got smoked 86 to 6 by Cobalt. I know the NC on emerald has no real air force but wtf happened to all the TR and VS air aces?
Last edited by rookie; Apr 22, 2017 @ 3:33pm
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JohnyThos7 Apr 22, 2017 @ 4:09pm 
I thought Cobalt would lose, but I'll take it, Americans might have no fighting spirit
rookie Apr 22, 2017 @ 5:01pm 
Originally posted by yTноc:
I thought Cobalt would lose, but I'll take it, Americans might have no fighting spirit
Emerald lost to Connery just a little while ago so thier on a big losing streak. If you read the comments in the twitch stream it seems emerald is just bad.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/137373654
Last edited by rookie; Apr 22, 2017 @ 5:08pm
chaosbringer42 Apr 22, 2017 @ 5:33pm 
Originally posted by yTноc:
I thought Cobalt would lose, but I'll take it, Americans might have no fighting spirit
Connery is Americans, Emerald can suck it.
BossGalaga Apr 22, 2017 @ 5:41pm 
Originally posted by chaosbringer42:
Originally posted by yTноc:
I thought Cobalt would lose, but I'll take it, Americans might have no fighting spirit
Connery is Americans, Emerald can suck it.

Don't forget Connery's massive contingent of Chinese players. Also, both Connery and Emerald are US servers.
chaosbringer42 Apr 22, 2017 @ 5:48pm 
Originally posted by BossGalaga:
Originally posted by chaosbringer42:
Connery is Americans, Emerald can suck it.

Don't forget Connery's massive contingent of Chinese players. Also, both Connery and Emerald are US servers.
Shhhh, Connery has a large contingent of KOREAN players, not chinese :D.
Auraxed Apr 22, 2017 @ 5:48pm 
I was playing for Cobalt in this match. I will give you a short answer to why I think Emerald are loosing matches, and in particular why I think we had such a good game against them tonight. In all its essential parts, it's all bout air dominance in smashes. Without air dominance, you will be pounded to pieces by the other side's A2G.

Cobalt has historically always had among the best air pilots in the game. Looking at the stats for this post-game analysis, Cobalt had ~1000 kills with banshee+lolpods combined, while Emerald had ~100 combining airhammer+pods. Looking beyond numbers and into the actual experience, loosing air support means a lot of (if not all) the focus of enemy pilots will be on A2G and a lot of damage will be spread out over your ground units when trying to push objectives (e.g. a point room or a certain building). This usually leads to situations where your ground units are so weakened by the A2G spam that the breaching power is almost nullified (imagine a couple of dead bodies per squad just to reach the point, a lot of people without overshields, momentum is lost as revives are necessary etc).

Of course you could try to counter this with AA buses, skyguards or other means of air deterance, but the limited effectiveness these provide against competent pilots coupled together with the amount of resources it costs (both in nanintes and soldiers) makes this an unfeasable tactic to use. In the end, these are resources that you rather want to spend on attacking or defending bases.

With the air-roles reversed, this match could have turned out very differently, as I felt that the enemy infantry teams were quite strong, especially when backed up by well-placed sunderers, but then again my platoon was also playing against one of the arguably better-stacked platoon (at least according to the post-game statistics) in the Emerald SS roster. I still think Cobalt would have won the game, since practically every participating outfit had been training for this smash, but it would definitely be much more difficult without the kind of air support that we had tonight (I have been on the receiving air of A2G spam a couple of serversmashes as well, so I know that feeling).

If there is anyone from Emerald reading this thread, thanks for the hard fights in the north lane and for not giving up until the very end (good defense on Mani Tower as well as Nortpoint Station to deny us the early win)!

/NajN
Last edited by Auraxed; Apr 22, 2017 @ 5:53pm
BossGalaga Apr 22, 2017 @ 5:50pm 
Originally posted by chaosbringer42:
Originally posted by BossGalaga:

Don't forget Connery's massive contingent of Chinese players. Also, both Connery and Emerald are US servers.
Shhhh, Connery has a large contingent of KOREAN players, not chinese :D.

They were already playing on Connery when they had their own servers and after SOE/DBG shut them down...well...they were still playing on Connery.

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/ps2/index.php?threads/massive-influx-of-chinese-players-on-connery-why-dont-they-play-on-the-chinese-servers.97210/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Connery/comments/4cwe2q/chinese_players_have_arrived/
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