Why is veteran so insanely hard?

[Zaxx]

Were the difficulty settings designed for co-op? I'm playing the game in solo on veteran, I'm at the 4th chapter and I'm really thinking about restarting the whole thing on normal because this is just insanely difficult. I'm fresh off completing RE4 on professional without much of an issue so I thought veterant would be the choice for me here but nope, for a bunch of reasons:

- The QTEs are just insane even compared to RE4 on 60 fps and I despise QTEs. If these parts are easier on normal I'm instantly jumping ship from veteran.

- Sheva is an idiot: she constantly ♥♥♥♥s up my melee opportunities by shooting at enemies, she eats up ammo and no matter how I use her she always gets herself killed in stupid ways. I can't even use rifles and a bunch of other weapons simply because those are the ones she seems to be the most effective with so I just have to give them to her. I'm playing the game, not the ♥♥♥♥ing AI, why do I have to limit myself in my weapon choices in SINGLE PLAYER? Basically Sheva doesn't let me play the game the way I want to.

- The ♥♥♥♥ing El Gigante bossfight was terrible: not even was it a ♥♥♥♥ing turret section (a turret section in an RE game, wtf?) I died around 10 times simply because it could get in a few attacks when Sheva did not shoot it.

- I'm aching for ammo constantly (hell, at the part at the oil field when two chainsaw guys attacked me I had to use up all my ammo and most of my grenades... and then you instantly get thrown into a part where you have to shoot 2 dozen zombies).

- Basically normal RE4 style gameplay is the last thing you're doing here: scripted QTE sequences, ridiculously long and boring cutscenes and turret sections take up your time instead of shooting zombies. It's like playing ♥♥♥♥ing Uncharted and there are not many games I hate as much as Uncharted.

- Sometimes I can't even see what I'm shooting at because the laser sight gets obscured by something.

This game has a lot of positive reviews, most people say that it's largely the same as RE4... well, that's just the biggest lie I've ever heard, this feels like the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ version of RE4. You give RE4 to a bunch of idiot monkeys, mix in some CoD and Uncharted and then you get RE5 as the result.

Edit: Since this is still getting the occasional comment 7 years later: the solution is to play the game on normal first to unlock some better equipment, then veteran and professional become pushover difficulties on a second playthrough. The balance is pretty crap overall.

[Rashu]

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[lilwing]

Button mashing QTEs and stupid AI are good complaints, AI was designed for normal mode, where enemies attack much less frequently - but partner AI remains slow on harder difficulties. Other things are more like matter of git gut and taste. I can only suggest to play online with someone.

[Tactical Dimasik]

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[Tactical Dimasik]

I'm curious what he'll say to you with your 1380 hours of re6

[Zaxx]

Originally posted by lilwing:

Button mashing QTEs and stupid AI are good complaints, AI was designed for normal mode, where enemies attack much less frequently - but partner AI remains slow on harder difficulties. Other things are more like matter of git gut and taste. I can only suggest to play online with someone.

That's a good idea but I don't have any friends who play the game since it's so damn old at this point and I don't like playing with strangers, there's no fun in that for me.

Switched it back to normal and now I'm yet to die even once (and trust me, sometimes I do stupid ♥♥♥♥, I'm not a "master gamer"). Man, Capcom royally messed up the difficulty settings in this game.

[Lanzagranadas]

If you're going to play with the AI, it would be probably better to play on Pro, not Veteran, because in Pro enemies ignore the AI partner (at least that's how it was last time I played it)

Originally posted by Zaxx:

- I'm aching for ammo constantly (hell, at the part at the oil field when two chainsaw guys attacked me I had to use up all my ammo and most of my grenades... and then you instantly get thrown into a part where you have to shoot 2 dozen zombies).

That's a non-issue. If you're lacking of ammo, you probably need better weapons. Otherwise nothing stops you from going back to Item Management once you've reached a checkpoint to reorganize your items and bring up some extra ammo.

Originally posted by Zaxx:

- Basically normal RE4 style gameplay is the last thing you're doing here: scripted QTE sequences, ridiculously long and boring cutscenes and turret sections take up your time instead of shooting zombies. It's like playing ♥♥♥♥ing Uncharted and there are not many games I hate as much as Uncharted.

RE4 has even more QTE sections than 5, and it also has its dose of unnecesary long filler segments.

[Zaxx]

Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:

If you're going to play with the AI, it would be probably better to play on Pro, not Veteran, because in Pro enemies ignore the AI partner (at least that's how it was last time I played it)

That's good to know but honestly I don't think I'll play this campaign ever again, I'll just fire up Code Veronica on an emulator to play some actual RE. I hope Mercenaries will be good, at least then I won't feel like I wasted my money when I picked the game up.

[Hildegard Schlievogt]

Originally posted by Zaxx:

Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:

If you're going to play with the AI, it would be probably better to play on Pro, not Veteran, because in Pro enemies ignore the AI partner (at least that's how it was last time I played it)

That's good to know but honestly I don't think I'll play this campaign ever again, I'll just fire up Code Veronica on an emulator to play some actual RE. I hope Mercenaries will be good, at least then I won't feel like I wasted my money when I picked the game up.

the game had co-op in mind y'know...just ask for someone to co-op with...re5 solo is such a hassle..though IF you know how to "configure" the ai to be usefull solo can be managable

[talgaby]

QTEs are actually a lot easier, since it is always one of two button combinations, and you can freely spam them. I have set my controls on the numeric pad and the QTEs for me are either 1+3 or 4+6, so I can just use four fingers to pass any QTE any time.

To answer your question, Veteran was never meant for new game, the entire RE5 is balanced around New Game+. This is why it demands you to finish it once to even unlock half of its content, because that is the point where the game actually starts.

[Hildegard Schlievogt]

Originally posted by talgaby:

QTEs are actually a lot easier, since it is always one of two button combinations, and you can freely spam them. I have set my controls on the numeric pad and the QTEs for me are either 1+3 or 4+6, so I can just use four fingers to pass any QTE any time.

To answer your question, Veteran was never meant for new game, the entire RE5 is balanced around New Game+. This is why it demands you to finish it once to even unlock half of its content, because that is the point where the game actually starts.

i actually beat re5 on a normal new game and had 0 issue...WITH ai sheva of course :P i just gave her a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of ammo and the bolt action rifle.....she kileld things before i could! ..just never EVER give her herbs or sprays she'll waste 'em like no other >.>

[Lanzagranadas]

Originally posted by Sakura Toriumi:

i actually beat re5 on a normal new game and had 0 issue...WITH ai sheva of course :P

But we're talking about Veteran, which was indeed made for NG+. Vet is still perfectly doable from NG but not exactly recommended unless you have a human partner. Some enemies will be bullet sponges if you lack of decent weapons.

[Kau Leal]

My biggest problem with Sheva is that I can't focus on one task and trust her to do another task. For example, the El Gigante fight, I have to shoot the monster AND the crossbow guys because Sheva doesn't focus on hitting the gigante's foot, the rock or the crossbow majini. Another thing is when I have to shoot at long distance to hit the machine gun or the rocket launcher majini and I get hit by a stun rod becaus Sheva didn't take care of the melee guys. Concerning herbs, I always give green+red herbs to Sheva because she can heal quickly, but I never give a single green herb because she wastes it.

[Hildegard Schlievogt]

obviously i meant veteran..which as i said i completed with minimal issues solo....just don't give sheva anything other than the sniper rifle and ammo for it

Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:

Originally posted by Sakura Toriumi:

i actually beat re5 on a normal new game and had 0 issue...WITH ai sheva of course :P

But we're talking about Veteran, which was indeed made for NG+. Vet is still perfectly doable from NG but not exactly recommended unless you have a human partner. Some enemies will be bullet sponges if you lack of decent weapons.

[Zaxx]

Originally posted by Kau Leal:

My biggest problem with Sheva is that I can't focus on one task and trust her to do another task. For example, the El Gigante fight, I have to shoot the monster AND the crossbow guys because Sheva doesn't focus on hitting the gigante's foot, the rock or the crossbow majini. Another thing is when I have to shoot at long distance to hit the machine gun or the rocket launcher majini and I get hit by a stun rod becaus Sheva didn't take care of the melee guys. Concerning herbs, I always give green+red herbs to Sheva because she can heal quickly, but I never give a single green herb because she wastes it.

Oh yeah, that's one thing Sheva's actually very good for: health management. She uses sprays and mixed herbs very well.

What I don't like in RE5 the most is that in my opinion Capcom could have made the single player a lot better by adding certain options to Sheva. Some examples:

- Attack and cover are the only orders you can give her? Why can't I order her to look for ammo for her weapon if she's out or to just hide? Was Ashley's AI good in RE4? Nope. Was she useful as a partner? Not at all... but if you told her to get her ass to a dumpster she got her ass to a dumpster and she never wandered off to get herself killed. In RE5 the attack command for Sheva is basically the suicide button because she stops giving a ♥♥♥♥ about your position, she just "attacks"... and dies.

- Why can't I set weapon preferences to her? Why is it that if she has two weapons I can't just open the inventory, select one and say "use this one now, it's better for this part"? Hell, you can't even request weapons from her for yourself, the option is just greyed out even if she has multiple firearms in her inventory! Why can't I just use tactics like "here's the stun rod, give me your rifle, you get the melee guys off my back while I kick the minigunners ass"?

Sheva is not an AI partner, she is a random dude at Capcom who's clueless about the gameplay.

[Rashu]

Originally posted by Zaxx:

Were the difficulty settings designed for co-op? I'm playing the game in solo on veteran, I'm at the 4th chapter and I'm really thinking about restarting the whole thing on normal because this is just insanely difficult. I'm fresh off completing RE4 on professional without much of an issue so I thought veterant would be the choice for me here but nope, for a bunch of reasons:

- The QTEs are just insane even compared to RE4 on 60 fps and I despise QTEs. If these parts are easier on normal I'm instantly jumping ship from veteran.

- Sheva is an idiot: she constantly ♥♥♥♥s up my melee opportunities by shooting at enemies, she eats up ammo and no matter how I use her she always gets herself killed in stupid ways. I can't even use rifles and a bunch of other weapons simply because those are the ones she seems to be the most effective with so I just have to give them to her. I'm playing the game, not the ♥♥♥♥ing AI, why do I have to limit myself in my weapon choices in SINGLE PLAYER? Basically Sheva doesn't let me play the game the way I want to.

- The ♥♥♥♥ing El Gigante bossfight was terrible: not even was it a ♥♥♥♥ing turret section (a turret section in an RE game, wtf?) I died around 10 times simply because it could get in a few attacks when Sheva did not shoot it.

- I'm aching for ammo constantly (hell, at the part at the oil field when two chainsaw guys attacked me I had to use up all my ammo and most of my grenades... and then you instantly get thrown into a part where you have to shoot 2 dozen zombies).

- Basically normal RE4 style gameplay is the last thing you're doing here: scripted QTE sequences, ridiculously long and boring cutscenes and turret sections take up your time instead of shooting zombies. It's like playing ♥♥♥♥ing Uncharted and there are not many games I hate as much as Uncharted.

- Sometimes I can't even see what I'm shooting at because the laser sight gets obscured by something.

This game has a lot of positive reviews, most people say that it's largely the same as RE4... well, that's just the biggest lie I've ever heard, this feels like the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ version of RE4. You give RE4 to a bunch of idiot monkeys, mix in some CoD and Uncharted and then you get RE5 as the result.

lmao no one cares,go cry in a corner