Will I go to hell if I listen to metal music?

[O5]

Now I know that Jesus is traditionally depicted as a metalhead, but I always kinda assumed it was because he absorbed all the sin of the world into himself which made him look like an evil devil worshiping hippie.
So my question is, is it okay to listen to metal music? Especially the evil songs from the evil bands about Satan and sin?

[Pooptastic ))<>((]

It's ok to do whatever your mother does.
Let that be your guide.

[Hypo Bird]

I used to listen to a lot of doom metal. It's the only thing that resonates with me. I loved hearing about strange misery and despair. My favorite song was, "My light unseen" by Impending Doom. I've only stopped listening to music altogether because I know that it slowly influences your thinking like all other things you watch or hear.

And typically it is suggested that this influence is detrimental to mental health and "walking with the Lord"; that is if it is even a concern about adhering to values taught by various disciples and apostles within the bible. Values range all over from being joyous, hopeful, blah, blah, blah.

--->But the flat answer is NO.<--- The only damning sin within the age's dispensation (the age of the Church of Christ) is the absence of faith in the gospel taught by Paul the apostle to the gentiles. You may also hear it described as faith in the blood sacrifice of Jesus (that it is all that's needed to make you justified before God), and that some say they are "washed" or "justified" by the blood of the Lamb of God.

And the only reason that this lack of faith is unforgivable is because this faith is the method that God chooses to impute righteousness of Jesus (who is described as sinless like no natural man) onto you.

It all makes more since when you learn about the old testament and how God had them perform blood sacrifices of animals to temporarily cover sin. There are "easter eggs's" that point to Jesus coming and somehow spilling life, like the rock that Moses broke open. The book of Hebrews describes how Jesus and his blood are used in heaven to pay for sin once- but in a way that it only needs to be performed once instead of the old law where priests in Israel needed to sacrifice animals nearly every day, or week/year.

[Hypo Bird]

I've seen you post a bit. Feel free to add me and blabber/ask if you want answers (even if they're mean.) I've been learning over the past two and a half years, and have only read half of the bible myself. Yet I've watch several hundreds of hours from various teachers, so I know a bit more than I would have on my own.

[Sandra ✧✞°•]

For anyone who seriously wonders if they can walk in darkness and embrace the things of the world, the things that oppose God, while also claiming to be in Christ:

You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. James 4:4

You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. 1 Corinthians 10:21

..What fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said,

“I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them,
and I will be their God,
and they shall be my people.

Therefore go out from their midst,
and be separate from them, says the Lord,
and touch no unclean thing;
then I will welcome you,
and I will be a father to you,
and you shall be sons and daughters to me,
says the Lord Almighty.” 2 Corinthians 6:14-18

But if anyone walks in the night, he stumbles, because the light is not in him. John 11:10

The night is far gone; the day is at hand. So then let us cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light. Romans 13:12

To open their eyes, so that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.’ Acts 26:18

Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” John 3:3

But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. John 1:12-13

He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, Colossians 1:13

For at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light. Ephesians 5:8

[Hypo Bird]

be wary of intermixing our faith (a faith in the atonement by trusting in Jesus's work on the cross and resurrection), with a faith in what we must do. If we believe that faith in his work alone is not enough, but that earnest discipleship and commitment to God is required for salvation, then our simple faith in His work for our justification is made nothing- as then we don't have faith that it does what it does. This is a common problem in the term Lordship Salvation.

But Sandra does make good point. Most of Romans chapter 6 says that we who believe are anew should be "dead to sin". And many other books such as the one she provides do clue that we should walk with God alone and not in our flesh. And there are descriptions that we will be punished for our own correction- and that if we still continue in sin despite being chastised- death follows on Earth.

I recommend searching Robert Breaker on youtube. I used to be confused about the assurance of my salvation until he broke it down to how simple it is for us today. But that's for this age only. Salvation gets messy if you don't understand the dispensations.

[Hypo Bird]

I have some details about the appearance of Jesus; but be warned that I haven't finished reading all of the early gospels word by word, so I might be missing something.

While on earth- I only recall his appearance changing once- and that was on a mountain, of which I think we call "the mount of transfiguration":

Originally posted by author:

(Mark 9:2-9) "¶ And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them. {3} And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them. {4} And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus. {5} And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. {6} For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid. {7} And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him. {8} And suddenly, when they had looked round about, they saw no man any more, save Jesus only with themselves. {9} And as they came down from the mountain, he charged them that they should tell no man what things they had seen, till the Son of man were risen from the dead."

I skimmed through the early gospels for the accounts of His crucifixion and found nothing unusual about His appearance. Likewise, after He rose from the tomb, He looked like as He normally did, but with the wounds on his hands and the spear gash on his side. Though He is seemingly "hidden" from the eyes of some people and seems to appear and vanish at times. Though- He does offer them to touch His body to be convinced He is really there. In the start of Acts He finally is taken up into heaven after 40 days.

In the book of Acts itself, there are some events where it's questionable as to how He looks while in heaven. Such as this verse, when Stephen was preaching to Jews somewhere:

Originally posted by author:

(Acts 7:54-58) "¶ When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth. {55} But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, {56} And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. {57} Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, {58} And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man’s feet, whose name was Saul."

HOWEVER!!!! There is plenty to see in the book of Revelation:

Originally posted by author:

(Revelation 1:11-18) "Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. {12} And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; {13} And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. {14} His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; {15} And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. {16} And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. {17} And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: {18} I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."

and this one from Revelation again:

Originally posted by author:

(Revelation 19:11-16) "And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. {12} His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. {13} And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. {14} And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. {15} And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. {16} And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."

As for what you see in modern metal and rock bands about the depictions of Jesus; simply put they tune into the idea that Satan has somehow won and that God was defeated at the cross; though we know it's entirely the opposite. Satan was totally bamboozled. There are also verses that describe Jesus "becoming sin" and "bearing all our iniquities". Those quotes may give recent artists ideas of inspiration, but are not meant in the most obvious way. In no way is Jesus corrupted now. The book of Hebrews says that He's the new and continual high priest and offers His blood in the holy place of heaven for us only- not for himself also.

[Hypo Bird]

Oh- and in Rev chapter 5 it also shows Jesus as a "Lamb" with seven eyes and horns:

Originally posted by author:

(Revelation 5:6-10) "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. {7} And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. {8} And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. {9} And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; {10} And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth."

[Cyax]

Originally posted by Ophem:

Now I know that Jesus is traditionally depicted as a metalhead, but I always kinda assumed it was because he absorbed all the sin of the world into himself which made him look like an evil devil worshiping hippie.
So my question is, is it okay to listen to metal music? Especially the evil songs from the evil bands about Satan and sin?

No, and you also won't go to hell for tattoos or not going to church. Sin is the only thing that keeps you hell-bound in this world, essentially you never truly live until you trust and believe in Christ's sacrifice. That is the only important thing to find in this world, not theology, not arguments or a happy life. It's to repent and believe in all that He has done for you. There is only one mediator to God and His name is Jesus Christ. Any prophet who does not declare Christ is come in the flesh is false.

The fine line stands where your heart does, as He does tell us we can tell who is our true master. Standing in defiance against God is one thing. But if the music doesn't bother you that it's intentionally satan praising and not just noise, you may want to be cautious in denying your conscious.

When you accept Christ you're instructed and empowered no longer alone. The Spirit will intercede and groan for you, assist and become a part of you. The Son will never forsake you, and the Father will never stop or change who He is, holy, just, righteous, true, never ending, He is Love.

[Blue]

Originally posted by JesusSheep🐑:

be wary of intermixing our faith (a faith in the atonement by trusting in Jesus's work on the cross and resurrection), with a faith in what we must do. If we believe that faith in his work alone is not enough, but that earnest discipleship and commitment to God is required for salvation, then our simple faith in His work for our justification is made nothing- as then we don't have faith that it does what it does. This is a common problem in the term Lordship Salvation.

But Sandra does make good point. Most of Romans chapter 6 says that we who believe are anew should be "dead to sin". And many other books such as the one she provides do clue that we should walk with God alone and not in our flesh. And there are descriptions that we will be punished for our own correction- and that if we still continue in sin despite being chastised- death follows on Earth.

I recommend searching Robert Breaker on youtube. I used to be confused about the assurance of my salvation until he broke it down to how simple it is for us today. But that's for this age only. Salvation gets messy if you don't understand the dispensations.

Thank you for clearing that up for Ms. Sandra. We are saved by belief in the death and resurrection of our LORD YAHUSHUA HA MASHIAH alone and not by works, hence my user name. 🙂

[Hypo Bird]

I know we've already said it like 6 times, but here's a video if you don't like having to read:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmkhRMPvt_0

there's many who know of Jesus, and about his death and resurrection- yet only a fraction of those people have a saving faith (trust) in what his complete blood atonement sacrifice does for us

[Cyax]

Originally posted by JesusSheep🐑:

I know we've already said it like 6 times, but here's a video if you don't like having to read:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmkhRMPvt_0

there's many who know of Jesus, and about his death and resurrection- yet only a fraction of those people have a saving faith (trust) in what his complete blood atonement sacrifice does for us

It's a matter of life and death. With the recent loss of a friend, I can't express this enough. Repent and believe. It's now or never. Enter from death into life abundant. Don't you see? This isn't just eternal life. It's being made into the likeness Christ Himself, it's heritage shared with the Son. It's more than I could describe in a nutshell. From the foundations of the earth Christ set Himself apart that we would be elect in Him. It's a merger of fate, destiny and purpose.

When I say "you" I speak figuratively, when I say "You" I speak of the One true God. He is all that He says He is and so much more. Every power and principality in this world yields to Him, the convergence of all time and existence hinges on the death of the Son. What a beautiful sacrifice. No religion teaches these ideals, only the God made system of belief does.

That He would so Love the world, that He would set Himself apart. So that He may suffer and die, be striped and maimed. Yet justifying freely forever rose again. Superseding where man fell short, making a way where there could never be. He lived the perfect life pleasing unto the Father. Freely giving Himself that we may never again be counted as lost.

[Hypo Bird]

Originally posted by Ophem:

Now I know that Jesus is traditionally depicted as a metalhead, but I always kinda assumed it was because he absorbed all the sin of the world into himself which made him look like an evil devil worshiping hippie.
So my question is, is it okay to listen to metal music? Especially the evil songs from the evil bands about Satan and sin?

Ophem might have unsubbed to this thread long ago- but I want to get a response out of Ophem so that I know Ophem is assured and resting in the work of Jesus. I write this because I'm focusing on the title of this discussion page: "Will I go to hell if I listen to metal music"

Here's verse chapter that describes working verses not working to qualify for salvation. To stop sinning is a work. I'm not arguing against "not sinning". I'm pointing out a critical perspective that you must have (in order to actually be saved):

Originally posted by Paul:

(Romans 4:1-25) "What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? {2} For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. {3} For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. {4} Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. {5} But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. {6} Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, {7} Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. {8} Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. {9} Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness. {10} How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision. {11} And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also: {12} And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised. {13} For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. {14} For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: {15} Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. {16} Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, {17} (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were. {18} Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations; according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be. {19} And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sara’s womb: {20} He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; {21} And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. {22} And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. {23} Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; {24} But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; {25} Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification."

You receive the seal of "circumcision" while you are "uncircumcised"- because while you were "uncircumcised" you believed on God's promise. Repenting from sin and devoting to God is not what qualifies you for eternal and irrevocable salvation- it's the right kind of faith that moves you from unsaved to saved. Uncircumcised in heart- to circumcised in heart.

Make sure your faith is in the blood atonement of Jesus- as it has paid the cost to cover all of your iniquities. By placing your trust in this sacrifice of Jesus being enough to take you to heaven- you are now "circumcised", imputted with the righteousness of Christ, saved, a child of God.

By thinking you have to work in addition to faith in Jesus's complete sacrifice- you are denying the finished work of Christ, and trample on the blood. Which means you don't trust in the blood atonement. Which means you're a lost Christian among many.

Jesus came to save the ungodly, yes? Be good after being saved, but it has no impact on your salvation- only future rewards in heaven (plus you will cry at the Bema Seat when your bad works burn up into nothing.) People often run to the early gospel books or the book of James to try to say otherwise- because they don't understand the difference of Jesus's ministry and his gospel of the coming Kingdom for Jews versus the new gospel given to Paul for Gentiles and Jews- about the sacrificial sacrifice of Jesus (which involves both his death and resurrection)

I have guide:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3122285999

Tell me what u r thinking- or if you're just memeing. If you wait too long, and enter into the tribulation period- salvation does indeed involve works (clearly stated in rev). Of course, within the past 4 years- I've almost died twice. And I only finally trusted on Jesus's atonement definitively this past Nov in 2023

[Hypo Bird]

I added a new section at the end of my guide: A NEW CREATION. You are no longer the unrighteous after being made a new thing within your flesh.

[Tricolored Crow]

Originally posted by Ophem:

Now I know that Jesus is traditionally depicted as a metalhead, but I always kinda assumed it was because he absorbed all the sin of the world into himself which made him look like an evil devil worshiping hippie.
So my question is, is it okay to listen to metal music? Especially the evil songs from the evil bands about Satan and sin?

Mystical theory:
No, you'll not go to hell.
Every misdeed you make is punished in this life, either by law or by your own consciousness,
and by the awkward silence of explaining your actions to your predecessors in the afterlife.

Hell, literally, is other people.

If you don't feel like you deserve heaven, your ideal heaven would have you experience some sort of punishment you'd find redeeming.

It's all the same place. It has to be, because there can't be 2 omniscient omnipotent opposing beings, it'd be like Diablo 2. And your ancestors/family would not be at ease with you eternally suffering some sort of arbitrary punishment.


Now to return back to Earth:
The greatest sin is actually if you disobeyed your father and mother when they told you "DON'T listen to it".
Because not only did you decide to not respect their authority, their experience, and opinion, but also to betray their trust and abuse it. If you've betrayed your father, seek them out and ask for forgiveness, so they might respect you once more. If you've betrayed your mother, beg for mercy in their heart, and promise to grow and be better than the you of yesterday.
And if you've betrayed your brother, then it's his turn on the Xbox for the next few weeks you screen peeking POS.


Amen

[BigRowdy]

A danger in today's Christianity is "grace covers all." Of course belief in the crucifixion of Jesus for our sins is compulsory. But you must also let Jesus become your king, your shepherd and become one of his flock. That entails a rebirth into the Spirit of Christ. Your whole view of your life, it's purpose, and your dedication to Jesus is vastly different than someone who just says "Thanks Jesus" and continues to live in a life not reborn. This is not works. This is becoming a true follower of Christ. Dedication to your king and following his voice as your shepherd.