As Sparta do I have to kill Athens to be able to trade?

[SOMA]

Seems like there's no other option as they are the only people I can trade with but it seems like in this TW you can only trade through your capital. And my only road from my capital goes straight into Athens.

Any one else confirm this?

[Rabidnid]

You can trade by sea as well.

[Ebannaw]

No, you don't have to kill Athens, though it certainly helps to secure Athens for their port. It opens up trade with other powers. I subjugated Epirus first, then set my focus on Athens. Then I got bogged down in a war with Macedon who came to defend Epirus, we settled an uneasy truce. Just explore other areas and societies and try to open up trade routes and dialogues with them.

[SOMA]

It won't allow me to trade with anyone despite having multiple ports, I'm not at war with anyone, and I own about 8-9 cities, most bordering other lands. I just can't trade :-( It's driving me insane.

[SOMA]

The only thing I can think of is that Athens effectively cuts off my capital city :-\

[Free Luigi M.]

Destroying Athens won't help you much. Your capital would still be Sparta. So no port and no sea trade routes. Yeah, bad game design.

[SOMA]

And you are telling me you did indeed take over Athens? lol Anyone who hasn't taken over Athens managed to open up trade agreements with other places?

[SOMA]

No but if I take over Athens I will have a road going out of my capital to the edges of my territory is my thinking.

[Ebannaw]

Originally posted by Joe Chip:

Destroying Athens won't help you much. Your capital would still be Sparta. So no port and no sea trade routes. Yeah, bad game design.

Conquering Athens helps a lot. Wtf are you smoking?

[CptGrunt]

same boat man except im trading with athens everyone else wont let me and i own a huge chunk of the ports around the sea now ...

[Free Luigi M.]

Originally posted by den-69:

No but if I take over Athens I will have a road going out of my capital to the edges of my territory is my thinking.

Yeah, but you are already trading with Athens. Taking the city will open a route with Epirus. But they won't accept a trade agreement. Besides you have to conquer them eventually.
Also not being able to trade by sea for the whole campaign sucks big time.
Anyway yes, you should definitely take Athenai and conquer all of Greece.

Originally posted by SIR CHUMPDICKS OF GAGALHARDLAND:

Originally posted by Joe Chip:

Destroying Athens won't help you much. Your capital would still be Sparta. So no port and no sea trade routes. Yeah, bad game design.

Conquering Athens helps a lot. Wtf are you smoking?

I was talking about sea trade. Taking Athens doesn't open any trade routes by sea beause your capital still has no port.
Learn to read.

[Ash]

Sparta are not a good faction to play as they don't have many units and every unit is a spear man.

[Hei85]

So if you take over Athens with Sparta, Athens forgets how to trade by sea? wow

[Ebannaw]

Originally posted by AsH:

Sparta are not a good faction to play as they don't have many units and every unit is a spear man.

Hell, that's pretty authentic and it adds a challenge to the campaign I'm finding.

[LordZon]

Sparta is a very difficult to win with. But that is by design. The game tells you they are harder than most to play.

[Undzi]