Can you really trust ´´reliable`` allies?

[Aslan Ponto]

You know that description which appears in the diplomacy tab which says things like ´´dubious``, ´´agressive``, etc. My question is if you can totally trust a faction such as Sparta which says that it is loyal as long as you are allies and in good terms, even though they become much bigger and stronger than you.

I ask this because I am thinking about doing an extremely tall campaign in which I would not grow (trying to keep the Imperium level as low as possible) whilst helping my allies to grow in order to fulfill the victory requirements.

Thanks in advance.

[Salty Nobody]

You can trust any ally as long as you give them something to do. Make sure they are always busy warring with someone else and they will not have a chance for betrayal.

I've done tall before, it was hard because I had a very large alliance with many factions who hated each other and were united only in their even greater hatred of the Selucids. Once the Selucids fell it was a race against time to meet the victory conditions before the two main groups of allies turned on each other.

[Aslan Ponto]

Originally posted by The Fifth Archon:

You can trust any ally as long as you give them something to do. Make sure they are always busy warring with someone else and they will not have a chance for betrayal.

I've done tall before, it was hard because I had a very large alliance with many factions who hated each other and were united only in their even greater hatred of the Selucids. Once the Selucids fell it was a race against time to meet the victory conditions before the two main groups of allies turned on each other.

That is exactly what happened in my last campaign as Athens when I was about to meet the cultural victory conditions. There was a massive Edetani/Celtiberian Confederation alliance on one side, and a Cimmerian/Galatia/Tylis on the other side, and myself on the middle with other little allies of mine. I had to align with the latter alliance given that my armies were already on the West and I could not defend properly against Cimmeria and the others.

[Emir Ismael]

play DEI you will not be able to march that far to the west without supplies !

[Emir Ismael]

play on normal 1st

[wjpower2003]

Originally posted by Emir Ismael:

play DEI you will not be able to march that far to the west without supplies !

DEI changes your entire behaviour as it pertains to making alliances due to the DEI mechanics. I tend to avoid making anything other than trade agreements in order to remain as neutral as possible and plan ahead if I want to invade in a particular direction.

Depending on your faction, you can remain largely neutral with all factions as long as you maintain high diplomatic stature.

[Preacher]

Unfortunately TW is not a diplomacy game other than peace and war. TW shines in its battles, not in its campaigns. Although, I should mention TW only seems to shine when you are playing against another player, otherwise battles against AI are garbage as well.

[Wayz]

No, don't trust any of them lol. They are future territories and temporary trade partners to fund their demise until then.

[wjpower2003]

Originally posted by Preacher:

Unfortunately TW is not a diplomacy game other than peace and war. TW shines in its battles, not in its campaigns. Although, I should mention TW only seems to shine when you are playing against another player, otherwise battles against AI are garbage as well.

You need DEI in your life......... or Para Bellum for that matter.

[⎛⎝ Kupo ⎠⎞]

Trust no one, declare war on everyone.

[Iron Ben]

Only good ally is a dead one...

[Stevcorp]

You're asking the wrong question.

What you should be asking is "should they be trusting you?". And if the answer's yes, it's a sign you can reach higher.