Total War: ROME II - Emperor Edition

Total War: ROME II - Emperor Edition

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GreyVixen Oct 20, 2014 @ 1:15pm
Is there a mod to lift the army cap?
Rome 2 feels like a slog to me, mainly because every battle seems to be full stack armies filled with junk units. In past total wars, they didn't have this problem because armies were spread out. So most battles would be comprised of relatively few units with the occasional massive battle.

As much as I like the idea CA had going (it feels more inline with how armies worked historically), it doesn't make for a very good experience. Is there a mod that reverts this change and brings it closer to previous total wars?
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Hurricane (Banned) Oct 20, 2014 @ 5:28pm 
Use your brain a sec and have a think. The game is built this way so no...
Dragnipurake Oct 20, 2014 @ 5:34pm 
I needed approximately 10s to find this in the work shop:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202543451&searchtext=army+cap

No comment on the quality, I do not use mods. There are other mods for the same thing as well.

You know, the search function is there for a reason.
There probably is somewhere, I would try searching for it. Edit: ^

Originally posted by SHADOW OF THE BAT!!:
Use your brain a sec and have a think. The game is built this way so no...

The game was built to have an army cap of 20 units, and people mod that....
Last edited by Shadow of the SPQR; Oct 20, 2014 @ 5:34pm
GreyVixen Oct 20, 2014 @ 7:05pm 
Originally posted by Dragnipurake:
I needed approximately 10s to find this in the work shop:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202543451&searchtext=army+cap

No comment on the quality, I do not use mods. There are other mods for the same thing as well.

You know, the search function is there for a reason.

Thanks for the link. I did search the workshop for a mod and I kept getting mods that changed the army size limit. 20 unit to 40 unit mods and such. Guess I was searching the wrong keywords.
Dragnipurake Oct 20, 2014 @ 7:42pm 
I see. Good luck.
LeadStarDude Oct 20, 2014 @ 8:30pm 
This one increases the cap to 100 & offers some other cheats as well.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=320096443&searchtext=army+cap+removal
Last edited by LeadStarDude; Oct 20, 2014 @ 8:33pm
Hurricane (Banned) Oct 21, 2014 @ 3:58am 
No this is not what the op asked for this means you just unlock more slots and need generals to fill them! Each generals upkeep is 200+ so spamming them will wreck your economy. The game is not built the way
Originally posted by SHADOW OF THE BAT!!:
No this is not what the op asked for this means you just unlock more slots and need generals to fill them! Each generals upkeep is 200+ so spamming them will wreck your economy. The game is not built the way

The game is not built for many mods, yet they still do the job.

Also, your point is why removing the cap works - the limit is your economy, which is why I don't understand why they had to cap it in the first place.
Hurricane (Banned) Oct 21, 2014 @ 6:27am 
Originally posted by CommodusIV:
Originally posted by SHADOW OF THE BAT!!:
No this is not what the op asked for this means you just unlock more slots and need generals to fill them! Each generals upkeep is 200+ so spamming them will wreck your economy. The game is not built the way

The game is not built for many mods, yet they still do the job.

Also, your point is why removing the cap works - the limit is your economy, which is why I don't understand why they had to cap it in the first place.

TBH i prefer this way but it does screw over the AI.

Why would you wanna spam little armies anyway? its stupid.


Originally posted by SHADOW OF THE BAT!!:
Originally posted by CommodusIV:

The game is not built for many mods, yet they still do the job.

Also, your point is why removing the cap works - the limit is your economy, which is why I don't understand why they had to cap it in the first place.

TBH i prefer this way but it does screw over the AI.

Why would you wanna spam little armies anyway? its stupid.

Not sure how it is any less stupid than spamming full blobs of preatorians.
Hurricane (Banned) Oct 21, 2014 @ 8:05am 
Originally posted by CommodusIV:
Originally posted by SHADOW OF THE BAT!!:

TBH i prefer this way but it does screw over the AI.

Why would you wanna spam little armies anyway? its stupid.

Not sure how it is any less stupid than spamming full blobs of preatorians.

SO you would prefer the ai to spam loads of tiny armies and be even less of a challenge? I would love to face a full teched up roman army but the ai is dumb and spams low tech units even late game....
GreyVixen Oct 21, 2014 @ 3:09pm 
Originally posted by SHADOW OF THE BAT!!:
Originally posted by CommodusIV:

The game is not built for many mods, yet they still do the job.

Also, your point is why removing the cap works - the limit is your economy, which is why I don't understand why they had to cap it in the first place.

TBH i prefer this way but it does screw over the AI.

Why would you wanna spam little armies anyway? its stupid.

The main reason is because right now each battle feels the exact same. The AI ends up with a full stack or two of cheap spearmen plus some ranged units. It's not good at releasing obsolete troops, so they stay like that the entire game unit you wipe the army. And seeing that most factions are one or two provinces, there's often no chance for more interesting armies to crop up. Each battle ends up feeling more like a chore than a challenge, imo. Especially since most battles only ever involve full stack armies.

I'm hoping that with a raised limit, the AI will think to disperse its troops amoung smaller armies, which will help create space for more advanced unit types as well as make full stack battles feel more epic and rare. And therefore, make battles more interesting.
Last edited by GreyVixen; Oct 21, 2014 @ 3:09pm
Originally posted by SHADOW OF THE BAT!!:
Originally posted by CommodusIV:

Not sure how it is any less stupid than spamming full blobs of preatorians.

SO you would prefer the ai to spam loads of tiny armies and be even less of a challenge? I would love to face a full teched up roman army but the ai is dumb and spams low tech units even late game....

I would prefer CA fix the frigging thing. There is no case to saying no to something because previous systems were buggy... then again, with CA's record, I fear they may very well fail in making it work...
LeadStarDude Oct 22, 2014 @ 6:46pm 
Originally posted by SHADOW OF THE BAT!!:
Originally posted by CommodusIV:

The game is not built for many mods, yet they still do the job.

Also, your point is why removing the cap works - the limit is your economy, which is why I don't understand why they had to cap it in the first place.

TBH i prefer this way but it does screw over the AI.

Why would you wanna spam little armies anyway? its stupid.
The mod I posted lowers the upkeep for all units & Generals to 1 & recruitment cost to 100 for any & all units so that you can have 100 huge armies. Derp...
Last edited by LeadStarDude; Oct 22, 2014 @ 6:48pm
Hurricane (Banned) Oct 22, 2014 @ 7:18pm 
Tbh i think this is the reason the game is no fun. It looks good on paper but the ai cant cope with it! They need to allow the ai to build better armies! They spam useless crap all game. Carthage owned the full West side of the map on my Parthia game but still had stacks of poop! How did they manage to take the full West with poop?

The nomad tribes have the best army stacks in the game, heavy lancers with heavy horse archers but they suck at siege and Parthia foot archer spam destroys them.

I really wanna fight elite stacks of Romans but it just never happens :( most of the time the big factions get wiped out by the little ones.

They need to focus on making the ai better! Allowing it to cheat seems the only thing to fix this and then that ruins the diplomacy side like shogun 2 as they dont need to trade and just all declare war are you if you explore the map and reveal new factions. In shogun 2 i had 1 faction sale from the very end of Japan to the other to attack me when i did nothing wrong to him just because i revealed his faction. If you dont explore on shogun 2 only the factions you can see will fight you its a very dumb ai.

Ai is hard to code, sometimes i think having fixed enemies would work better but then it would make the game more repetitive.

I just cant have fun with rome 2 any more because its far too easy...
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Date Posted: Oct 20, 2014 @ 1:15pm
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