How to win as thrace?

[HighKnightsHemplar]

ive been playing and even tho i have afew mods on and odrysian kingdom has some nice op mod units in the roster. yet no matter what happens, they are like impossible to play as...... why is the defence and moral soo low on the thracian rhomphaia units? their whole roster only has like one normal infantry unit and one super heavy version of it. yet hoplites seem even more powerful... historically speaking they were more heavy on the peltasts.... but thracian peltasts dont even seem to be very powerful..... they were supposed to be one of the first and best skirmishers in the ancient world and where used as mercenaries around the world.

[Pezhetairos]

Yes they're pretty unconventional to play. I just finished a campaign with the Odrysians without any unit-mods, just vanilla units, and it was hard but fun. One possibility to replace armored line-infantry is to hire the veteran hoplite mercenaries in Macedon, then you can use those as a solid defensive line to soak up missile-fire and then flank the enemy with rhomphaia units all while chasing the missile-troops with cavalry.
The sheer upkeep of those hoplites however is going to cripple your gold-income.

The best setup I used was without any peltasts (it hurts, because they have one of the best peltasts in the game). I used about 5 units of artillery, a few melee cavalry and as many rhomphaias as could fit into the army.
Artillery to focus enemy elite units and to just whittle the enemy down a little, then when they reached my army I would charge in every rhomphaia unit I had to lock the enemy in melee while using the cavalry to kill the missile-units and then charge in the enemies rear.

Its a pain in the ass that the rhomphaia units cannot withstand any kind of missile-fire but if you try to use their charge and melee damage and quickly finish off any missile-units, you can win most battles.

[Solo]

the thracian noble warriors is where its at they actually can beat pretorian guards with little to know help

[Reverend Belial]

They were bad before, but now that EE removed bonus vs infantry from swordsmen (including rhompaia units) they're literally impossible without mods (and even then that's not much better, since again even modded swordsmen don't have the infantry bonus that they basically rely on to do literally anything)

[HighKnightsHemplar]

thanks people