ATTILA/ FALL OF ROME NEXT EXPANSION?

[Karl Sturm]

I was looking around in the model files updating my mod and i found a new model called "atilla test model", I know theres an announcement coming on the 25th so im wondering if this is the next chapter, since attilla peaked around the time rome started to plummit.

[Shadow of the SPQR]

I somewhat doubt it, given the emperor edition release.

[MarsVega]

Maybe. since we were given the rise of the Roman republic with the grand campaign, Caesar's rise to power with that expansion, then quickly followed up with the whole punic wars with the Hannibal expansion (but I think it should have been Hannibal then Caesar according to a time line)and now we are the rise of the Roman empire with the Augustus expansion. So only thing missing would be the Fall of Rome expansion, like the Barbarian invasion expansion of the first game

[Reverend Belial]

Creative Assembly has previously stated that they will NOT be releasing duplicate expansions. That means that since Rome 1 already had Barbarian Invasion, that means that there will not be a fall of Rome expansion for Rome 2.

[maxdogg75]

Hmm I think there will be a Atilla expansion next.That is the speculation on the T.W.C. Center forums.As the author who wrote the companion book to the Hannibal dlc is now writing a book Sword of Atilla.The companion book to the next dlc or expansion?

[[*UNITY*]_ james]

Първоначално публикувано от Reverend Belial:

Creative Assembly has previously stated that they will NOT be releasing duplicate expansions. That means that since Rome 1 already had Barbarian Invasion, that means that there will not be a fall of Rome expansion for Rome 2.

May you please list your source(s) as to where you got that? It seems illogical to me that they were doing rise of roman republic/empire-themed expansions that will not be followed by any with a fall of rome theme. Just because it has the same theme doesn't mean it might necessarily be a copy. It could center mainly on Attila taking the spotlight, there could be a dark ages TW set not long after the fall of rome, or it can be in-between like you can play the western Roman empire as Romulus Agustus. Heck, maybe they can do it even during Constantine's time.

Seriously, It wouldn't make sense to me to not make any Roman-themed expansion/game after the establishment of the empire. Just doing it once is not an excuse, especially considering that it was years ago.

[chef]

Yea most likely called sword of atilla. And @ reverend belial, they did not say that. They said they would not make any 3rd titles any time soon.

[Reverend Belial]

I'd give you a source but I don't bookmark every page I see with information on it so I have no idea where to refind it, but I know it was included in one of their statements alongside their "no 3rd titles" comments. Maybe that policy has changed, maybe there will be another fall of Rome expansion (though I'm certain that the 3 other campaigns were released in place of such a thing anyway), but I do know that they said it.

[Spec]

Първоначално публикувано от CommodusIV:

I somewhat doubt it, given the emperor edition release.

Firstly, it's a possibly expansion content for Rome II, the upcoming Total War Title to be announced on the 25th does not necessarily factor into the creation of such an expansion, it could be in creation for over 6 months to a year from now.

If it is the 25th upcoming announcement then that just means the title/expansion could be released at any given time in the future, as said even 6 months to a year from now, I don't see how just cause Augustus was released recently that there is no possibility.

http://steamdb.info/app/311380/history/
http://steamdb.info/app/273382/history/

The date of creation between those two should give a good idea that it's entirely possible a huge standalone expansion is being worked on; possibly set during the Fall of Rome period.

Първоначално публикувано от Reverend Belial:

Creative Assembly has previously stated that they will NOT be releasing duplicate expansions. That means that since Rome 1 already had Barbarian Invasion, that means that there will not be a fall of Rome expansion for Rome 2.

I'm laughing so hard right now, as said please provide the source of that claim.
I'm sorry but I just find that hard to believe it for a second that CA would dismiss such an important period of history as a possible Total War title; or expansion to Rome II because of as you say simply "the don't make duplicate expansions"

Първоначално публикувано от *VGS* james:

May you please list your source(s) as to where you got that? It seems illogical to me that they were doing rise of roman republic/empire-themed expansions that will not be followed by any with a fall of rome theme. Just because it has the same theme doesn't mean it might necessarily be a copy. It could center mainly on Attila taking the spotlight, there could be a dark ages TW set not long after the fall of rome, or it can be in-between like you can play the western Roman empire as Romulus Augustus. Heck, maybe they can do it even during Constantine's time.

Seriously, It wouldn't make sense to me to not make any Roman-themed expansion/game after the establishment of the empire. Just doing it once is not an excuse, especially considering that it was years ago.

I totally agree, it's such a interesting and exciting period in time that it would be just ridiculous of CA to rule it out of possibility, I'd really like to see the source of that guys claim to be sure though.

Well, as said http://steamdb.info/app/273382/history/ was logged in 8 months ago into steam's database, where as the Augustus/EE pack was created only 3 months ago in steam's db. Whether or not that could be a held back dlc or an expansion is just speculation, but it is suspicious.

Volume 1, Destroy Carthage novel based of the Total War Rome series, inspired by Total War: Rome II was released 3rd of September 2013 alongside Rome II.

Volume 2 in the Total War Rome series upcoming is Sword of Attila, a novel both licensed by CA/Sega and based on Total War: Rome II. It's interesting that the books soon to release does not have a cover art yet, weird.
Still that's just speculation, but check them out for yourself.

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=VYM3AAAAQBAJ&dq=bibliogroup:%22Total+War+Rome%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Z44fVPq5CI358QWIuYDoBQ&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAQ
Total War: Sword of Attila, upcoming book[books.google.com.au]

[Spec]

Първоначално публикувано от CommodusIV:

Well, I said I doubted it. Not that it would not happen.

You know how to cut and selectivly quote....right?

Anyways, your logic based Emperor Editions release was greatly flawed, just making it clear to you of the potential possibilities to consider.

[Spec]

Първоначално публикувано от Reverend Belial:

I'd give you a source but I don't bookmark every page I see with information on it so I have no idea where to refind it, but I know it was included in one of their statements alongside their "no 3rd titles" comments. Maybe that policy has changed, maybe there will be another fall of Rome expansion (though I'm certain that the 3 other campaigns were released in place of such a thing anyway), but I do know that they said it.

Yeah I thought as much.

Also, they never ruled out 3rd titles, that's a common misconception. they just said it was doubted that it would happen, which is not decisive.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-07-13-the-future-of-total-war

"I doubt we'll have the appetite to go back and visit anything a third time - I very much doubt we'll ever do that. I'll never say never, but that certainly wouldn't be high on our list, going back a third time."

When asked whether this ruled out Medieval 3, a wily Simpson said, "to be absolutely honest, we haven't decided what we're going to do next, after Rome 2 - which period we're going to do next".

"Yeah, I'm sure it's a possibility, but me personally, it wouldn't be my first choice. But I've got to argue with the rest of the team and persuade them that that's the case."

[Reverend Belial]

It's not decisive, but in his words "it's leaning more towards the dinosaur end of the spectrum" (I know it's a misquote in this context, but it's a humorous statement and it fits with my point). I'm glad you found that article though. I think you might be right, it's possible (likely even) I may have read a speculative post regarding the non-repeated dlc's and attributed it to a statement.

[Ammianus Marcellinus]

Първоначално публикувано от Cat-Master:

I was looking around in the model files updating my mod and i found a new model called "atilla test model", I know theres an announcement coming on the 25th so im wondering if this is the next chapter, since attilla peaked around the time rome started to plummit.

Yes, there will be an attila/fall of rome add on. Its accompanying novel in bound to be released the 27th of januari. If you contact the author on his blog he might even give you some more hints. Add-on will be standalone and will probably have the same title as the book Total War: Sword of Atilla. The test model you found is great proof of what is going to happen. Nearly all the expansions are somewhat present in the modtools, and this is just another one. Good work.

[X-the Unknown]

Nah, Atilla is too far ahead of this period. It will probably be something with barbarians or maybe going back in time to Greece with Alexander or Persia.

Everyone seems to want a Spartan game with the Spartans of old. Why they want to play a losing cause battle with 300 Spartans if beyond me. Sure it was a noble deed but death awaited them from the start.

I would have used 2 sets of archers to defeat them at thermopoly (sp i ain't lookin it up lol) One set shooting above them and one set shooting directly at them. They didn't have a perfect defense with that turtle effect and there were still holes between shields and with thousands of arrows pouring down upon them a lot of them would be destine to penetrate the turtle effect.
Result: Dead Spartans everywhere. :))

If that didn't work knowing there would be a lot of casualties on the persian side anyways I would have sent long spear melee units to the front to force the Spartans out of their turtle while the arrows still poured down upon them. If that failed I would send in the Elephants to at least make them to break their formation while the arrows still rained down upon them.

[Royal Fusilier]

Sword of Attila would be my guess. If not specifically Attila it will most likely be a Fall of Rome theme featuring the rise of the Germanic Barbarian kingdoms.

[Shadow of the SPQR]

Първоначално публикувано от Spec:

Първоначално публикувано от CommodusIV:

Well, I said I doubted it. Not that it would not happen.

You know how to cut and selectivly quote....right?

Anyways, your logic based Emperor Editions release was greatly flawed, just making it clear to you of the potential possibilities to consider.

Meh, cutting and selectively quoting to me takes more time than someone scrolling under 1 second.

My logic was based on my thinking there would not be an expansion very soon, not that there would not be one.

Try reading before you call people flawed, you can pull a flaw out of every little thing that someone says. Everyone is inheritantly flawed.