How can peoples PC's not run this game well?

[NOFX]

I have a fairly cheap laptop which I got just after fall of the samurai was released and I could play shogun 2 for the first time but only on low-medium graphics but now with rome 2 I can play on high-ultra with the same laptop so I am confused to why people struggle on expensive PC's

[Azura]

People are complaining that all the updates are geared towards low end users when i dont not have a low end piece of gear. That being said this game has not once crashed on me or had much more than a stutter. I run the Game on the highest setttings possable and get no issues. I think the real problem is that people need to learn to deal with a few bugs here and there.

[Swesal]

Автор сообщения: appanugu

Right on. So, for most intents and purposes - Dx11 is the new standard and no reason to opt for lower version in order to increase performance? well, given the game is made to run it....

If you want more performance(FPS), then just turn down the settings ingame on the dx11 client. The whole argument that someone was making was that he was running on ultra settings or whatever, and was getting acceptable FPS because the dx9 client was just better, but the truth is the highest setting on dx9, and dx11 are not equal, so of course people would be getting better FPS on a dx9. It was just a really bad argument based on ignorance more then anything else.

[Rabidnid]

Автор сообщения: Relapse

I'm not bragging about my computer specs. I am trying to explain Rome 2's current state. You are playing this game on a Windows XP and it's DX9 API on 1280x1024 resolution, yet you are talking about how bad is Windows 8 and W7.

Again, failure at reading comprehension. When you stop imagining what other people are saying and what stats they are quoting your credibility will improve dramatrically.

Автор сообщения: Relapse

Lastly: "XP is better than W8, because Rome 2 works on it". This is the dumbest quote I've ever heard. It works without any problems on both Windows 7 and Windows 8.1.

Well you said it, rather than it being a quote, so i can agree

[Kak]

I hav e a $450 gfx card and this game really slugs once you get 3-5k units bunched up :p
graphics really arent that great....

[KassandraBlonde]

i have no clue what my specs are besides intel graphics card... but i can run skyrim on medium. call of duty on high. and shogun 2 on medium... honestly PC games are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ weird when it comes to being optimized

[LeadStarDude]

Well Rome II is still a mess in general. I haven't had any crashes since launch, but performance is awful compared to Shogun 2. Both games are built with the same engine so there is no excuse for such a large gap in performance from one game to the other.

I get 102fps average on Shogun 2's benchmark test with all settings on & maxed out @ 1920x1080. I get a 43fps average on Rome II's benchmark test with all settings on & maxed out @ 1920x1080.

That is so wrong on so many levels. I think it is because there is no SLI support for Rome II yet. Shogun 2 uses both of my GPUs, but Rome II does NOT. That is awful... Every TW game since Medieval 2 has had SLI support until Rome II. :(

Alienware 18 Laptop (18.4" screen @ 1920x1080)
i7-4900MQ OCed 5% {8 logical @ 3.0GHz}(4x3.8GHz, 2x3.9GHz, 1x4.0GHz Turbo Modes)
32GB DDR3 RAM (4x8GB Kingston HyperX @1600MHz)
2 x 4GB GTX 780M in SLI OCed 20% (2x256-bit with 3072 Cuda cores total)
2 x 1TB Samsung 840 EVO SSD (2TB total)

[Rabidnid]

Автор сообщения: Kakka

I hav e a $450 gfx card and this game really slugs once you get 3-5k units bunched up :p
graphics really arent that great....

Yep, optimisation in this game is ridiculous. It seems to only be anywhere near correct of much older low end PCs.

I have a AMD mother board, Nividia GTS 250, 4 gig of RAM and XP. This is a screen shot of a patch 10 battle with 17,500 troops on the battlefield and better than 20 fps. Resolution is 1440 by 900. Units buildings and unit size is ultra with everything else medium I think. Result is a perfectly playable game. I'm going to upgrade to windows 7 and a new graphics card in the next month or so, after which I probably won't be able to play Rome II any more :)

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=238916744

[Songbird]

Автор сообщения: Rabidnid

Автор сообщения: Kakka

I hav e a $450 gfx card and this game really slugs once you get 3-5k units bunched up :p
graphics really arent that great....

Yep, optimisation in this game is ridiculous. It seems to only be anywhere near correct of much older low end PCs.

I have a AMD mother board, Nividia GTS 250, 4 gig of RAM and XP. This is a screen shot of a patch 10 battle with 17,500 troops on the battlefield and better than 20 fps. Resolution is 1440 by 900. Units buildings and unit size is ultra with everything else medium I think. Result is a perfectly playable game. I'm going to upgrade to windows 7 and a new graphics card in the next month or so, after which I probably won't be able to play Rome II any more :)

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=238916744

*shows screenshot without fps and unit counter and horrible shadows on the unit most likely set to low on a non detail desert map*

*proceeds to taunt people thinking that 1440x900 resolution running dx9c graphics compare to 1900x1200+ setups and dx11.1*

the shadows of the dead guys look like christmas cookies :o

[Varmint]

Some of you guys really have a talent for picking out nuances in the graphics!
This is great stuff!
My eye just doesn't catch this stuff right off.
Time for me to get a new machine/config lol and get up to speed.

[Rabidnid]

Автор сообщения: Songbird

*shows screenshot without fps and unit counter and horrible shadows on the unit most likely set to low on a non detail desert map*

*proceeds to taunt people thinking that 1440x900 resolution running dx9c graphics compare to 1900x1200+ setups and dx11.1*

the shadows of the dead guys look like christmas cookies :o

You people don't actrually play the game do you, just masterbate over your graphics settings. Its more important to have 80 fps on extreme.

[Swesal]

Автор сообщения: Rabidnid

You people don't actrually play the game do you, just masterbate over your graphics settings. Its more important to have 80 fps on extreme.

You do understand what thread you are posting in, right? The topic is about game performance, and you are surprise that people are talking about game performance?

Ignoring the graphics..... Rome 2 is far from a masterpiece when it comes to game mechanics ether.

[Pumis]

Автор сообщения: Relapse

Автор сообщения: NOFX

I have a fairly cheap laptop which I got just after fall of the samurai was released and I could play shogun 2 for the first time but only on low-medium graphics but now with rome 2 I can play on high-ultra with the same laptop so I am confused to why people struggle on expensive PC's

Your laptop's resolution is much lower than ours. And, your standarts aren't high like computer addicts. You are probably playing this game on medium quality w/o any of the demanding settings. If your laptop older than 2-3 years, you wouldn't be able to choose shader model 5, tessellation etc.

Edit: It looks like you have an i3 4200 or smh. You are playing this game is on lowest settings, lol.

Автор сообщения: Fear2288

1. People who THOUGHT they had high-end rigs b/c they spent a lot of money on a "gaming" PC 5 or 6 years ago. PC tech is constantly evolving, changing, and getting better. What was "high end" five years ago is basically "low end" today. For example I bought a PC about 6 or 7 years ago and it ran nearly everything perfectly for the next 2 or 3 years. Now though...it's hit or miss with most titles to have come out in the last two or so years. It would've been really obsolete though if I hadn't thrown in more RAM and gotten a new video card.

I've high end PC and this game runs like crap.

Patch 9 benchmark: min 30 FPS, max 95 FPS, average 63.7 FPS.

Patch 10 benchmark: min 50 FPS, max 109 FPS, average 71 FPS.
(Ignore benchmarks, let's look at the real battlefields)

Patch 9: Snowy terrain, forest, almost 10000 units in same screen, maxed everything except "vegetation alpha", 1080p : min 13 - max 60 FPS
They reduced LOD in the patch 10. They are calling it "optimization".

2. People who don't understand, no matter how you explain it to them, that every game is different and just b/c they could run one game on max settings with 60 FPS doesn't mean they can run EVERY game with that result. Every game is put together differently and requires different amounts of output and performance from different pieces of hardware. They also don't seem to get that Rome 2 requires ALOT of their video cards, processors, etc (probably more so then many other games).

Rome 2 has bad optimization; let's face it. Bad graphics, bad AI, bad physx... It still demands too much power. I can understand, if it had decent Anti-Aliasing and nice Level of detail, but Rome 2 has none of them.

3. People who're entirely invested in PC gaming and have spent $1500+ on their rigs and keep it updated with the newest hardware and software. These kinds of people tend to have their bar set much higher than your usual PC player - meaning that they're absolutely disgusted that they can't play Rome 2 fully maxed and get 80+ FPS, and they feel insulted that the game wants them to downgrade a couple of graphic settings.

I feel insulted because this game unoptimized.

Like I said though, there are definitely issues with this game on high-end rigs but it doesn't really feel like the travesty the forum ragers make it out to be.

All rigs have issues with this game.

Game has very poor AA, yet it demands too much graphical power? Same for LoD. Very poor CPU optimization.

My system is i7 2600K @ 5 ghz, GTX 780ti @1150/1850, 8 GB 1600 CL9 ram, ssd+hdd, Windows 8.1

Автор сообщения: Rabidnid

I think XP is the difference. I have not heard of anybody having trouble who has XP, its all the windows 8 users. I'm actually upgrading again in the next month, so I probably won't be able to run it when I go to windows 7 and a new card.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. XP... We tested this game on both W7 and W8.1. Same issues on both of them. XP is just a trash, it doesn't even fully support DX11.

Also, you told " I am be able to play this game on a large battlefield with 18000 troops on it with medium settings and my gt 520. It gives 20+ FPS on 1280x1024 resolution."

Lol, those people with issues uses maximum settings and 1920x1080p+.

This thread should be a joke from someone. You guys don't know anything about computers , but you are still trying to spread false informations. Ignorance is bliss.

Strategy games always demand more from your rig than other games. Heck, some people's computers still can't hand game like warcraft 3 when map is full of units (custom map).

Every rig has issues? Not mine, I have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ old computer and it works just fine. As well as shogun 2 did.

Pretty much every new game has issues with latest rigs assuming that they were released almost same time. There are literally millions of different possible configures and rigs that game is suppose to run. They can't test them all.
Don't believe me? Well try installing heroes of might magic 3. Game can't even detect your system right anymore.

[Dr. Doggo]

Автор сообщения: Champion of Sparta

Автор сообщения: Rabidnid

I thnik XP is the difference. I have not heard of anybodoy having trouble who has XP, its all the windows 8 users. I'm actually upgrading again in the next month, so I probably won't be able to run it when I go to windows 7 and a new card.

I got rid of windows xp because it limited me to 4 gb of ram and got windows 7 64bit instead.

Couldeve just gone for the xp 64bit instead.
Though i recommend win7 64bit over xp 64bit

[PATCH3N]

I have had issues with stability (and still have from time to time) but the most noticeable is that with the other games I play(modded skyrim etc) my PC is rather silent, when playing Rome II on High graphics it makes big noise. PC just seems to have to work real hard.

[Relapse]

Автор сообщения: Pumis

Every rig has issues? Not mine, I have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ old computer and it works just fine. As well as shogun 2 did.

Pretty much every new game has issues with latest rigs assuming that they were released almost same time. There are literally millions of different possible configures and rigs that game is suppose to run. They can't test them all.
Don't believe me? Well try installing heroes of might magic 3. Game can't even detect your system right anymore.

Every rig has issues (performance wise). Everyone can run this game, but we aren't getting proper performance. I didn't get any crashes, but my issues are related to performance. We tested this game on:

My own rig: i7 2600K @5 ghz + 780ti + 8 gb ram + ssd
My friend's rig: i7 980x @ 4.2 ghz + 680 + 8 gb ram
Another friend's rig: i7 4770K + 780 + 16gb ram

My issues are:

1-) Too much graphical power requirement.

All of those three rigs didn't get proper performance from Rome 2. My FPS dips to 45 FPS with 71 FPS average during benchmark.

I mean, an overclocked 780Ti can't max this game graphics wise (without a CPU bottleneck). This game has worse visuals than Assassin's Creed 2. It has very low LOD and it uses console quality AA, yet it demands more than Tomb Raider 2013.

2-) Bad CPU optimization

Same engine with Shogun 2, yet it demands two times more CPU power. I expected a bottleneck from my CPU (sadly, I can't push it more than 5 ghz), but I didn't expect this kind of bottleneck for very bad AI, very bad physics.

I got huge FPS spikes (dipping as low as early 20s) due to CPU bottleneck on a snowy battlefield with 7-8k units on same screen (maxed-out except v.alpha, 1080p, zoomed in). There is something wrong this game.

3-) Bad graphics

No proper AA and very low LOD. They have to focus on two of these after those two main issues.

Автор сообщения: Pumis

Every rig has issues? Not mine, I have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ old computer and it works just fine. As well as shogun 2 did.

Issue =/= Crash

Автор сообщения: Pumis

Pretty much every new game has issues with latest rigs assuming that they were released almost same time. There are literally millions of different possible configures and rigs that game is suppose to run. They can't test them all.

My rig isn't new, 3 years old Sandy Bridge CPU isn't something new. My friend's 680 isn't new. It isn't some kind of compatibility issue, this game has no optimization. You are the fourth or third people who said: " I've ♥♥♥♥♥♥ computer and it works fine." in this thread.

SEGA knows this business really good. I'm starting to believe it after these four " I've cheap computer and Rome 2 works fine." comments.