The Lusitani

[Lusitani]

The Lusitani were the long lost cousins of the Suebi???? Since when? These guys love to make up new stuff...

[oOIYvYIOo]

Where you read that ?

[Spec]

There is some pretty into depth information that mentions many links between the Lusitani and Suebi. Have a read it's quite interesting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_the_Suebi

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Where you read that ?

On the store page for Hannibal Dlc.

[oOIYvYIOo]

The Suebi invaded and stayed in North of Iberian Peninsual and ruled for many years the North of Portugal as warlords. But that was on Roma Empire decline my friend.The Luitanian tribes,clans,people live on ancient Portugal since ever . That wikipedia link show us the Kingdom of Suebi on 400 BC not AC .

[Spec]

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The Suebi invaded and stayed in North of Iberian Peninsual and ruled for many years the North of Portugal as warlords. But that was on Roma Empire decline my friend.The Luitanian tribes,clans,people live on ancient Portugal since ever . That wikipedia link show us the Kingdom of Suebi on 400 BC not AC .

I think you meant Suebi AD not BC as BC would suggest they were suebic migrants before the periods the game is set at.
And i was merely doing a quick browse, so it would appear that link was a off, my bad.

Here is a better link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusitanians

In which on doing a bit of looking into it this time under the section 'Origins' it says:
"Alternatively, archeologist Scarlat Lambrino proposed that they were originally a tribal group of Celtic origin related to the Lusones of Saefs origin. Diodorus Siculus considered the Lusitanians a Celtic people: "Those who are called Lusitanians are the bravest of all Cimbri"

The Saefs "were a Celtic people. An Early Hallstatt culture, they were first in what is now the Czech-German area and later in Iberia (Portugal and Spain)"

And the Cimbri as you would know are the germanic tribe that held modern day Denmark.

So it's not solid evidence that they were, but there is definite hints that they could be, i would not classify CA as "making stuff up" - Perhaps they did a quick Wikiseach for info on them? lol.

[oOIYvYIOo]

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I think you meant Suebi AD not BC as BC would suggest they were suebic migrants before the periods the game is set at.
And i was merely doing a quick browse, so it would appear that link was a off, my bad.

Here is a better link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusitanians

I dont need wikilinks .Im portuguese . I have visited tens of museums,places with ancient Castros i know what i say .Lusitanian people ,people, had received invasors from Greeks,Fenicians,Gallic Celts,German tribes,Romans,Carthaginians .
So you wanna say that the Lusitanians are all that ?
Get good books before talking about something serious.

By you´re logic, so, romans are not really romans . They are Latins,Etruscians,Sarmatians,Germans,Gauls,Carthaginains,Greeks .
Use youre head and read carefully , wher that archeologist PORPOSED. Whos that "famous" archeologist that never

Lusitani come from the the people that lived betwen the river Douro and Tejo .
The cult of the Gods of the Lusitanian, didnt had anything to do with any other Indo-European even the a Iberian. That quote of Diodorus Siculus is totally wrong translated .That person even writes that Hercules was king of Iberia my friend there you go with the credibility.

The Cimbri plunder allmost all the Europe therefore we are all Danish now ...

[Spec]

Dude...Relax, i'm not trying to prove you wrong or falsify your nations heritage.
I was just trying to give a quick reference of information to the op that connects the Lusitani and Germanic peoples, it just seemed the Op was negateing without actually knowing or providing facts that they were not.

Anyways, upon further investigation.
The Lusitanians were a group of people from a Celtic tribe which came to the Iberian Peninsula along with other Celtic tribes when the Celts started their migrations around 3000 B.C.
The Celts origins are where Czech Republic and Germany are today, and they started a huge migration in all directions in Europe (hence they could be perceived as "long lost cousins of Suebi/germanic people", one of the first places they settled was in the Iberian Peninsula where the countries of Portugal and Spain are today, many tribes of Celts came to these regions, one of those were the Lusitanians. Some Archaeologists and Historians think they where the Celtic tribes who came from the Helvetic mountains in modern Switzerland but that's just speculation.

I think your confused at what i'm trying to explain - I'm trying to explain the orgins of the Lusitani not what they were at the time the game was set in.
They were migrants from possibly either germanic and/or celtic heritage.

[oOIYvYIOo]

And there you go,again .
The Gallic Celts invaded the Iberian Peninsula ,they acted as warlords . A warlord, allows the native population to live as they lived before ,but paying a tribute and were forbiden to use weapons. When the wars arrived who fought were the War Lords ,in this case the Gallic Celts.
And even their presence in Lusitanian was restricted of fortified positions ,only .

Lusitanian tribes revolt and manage to take the control of weapons .

Again , you´re just googling responding.
Again, Lusitanian tribes,culture,clans were NOT from celtic,greek,fenician,iberian. There are tons of artfacts of the cult,weapons,etc that do not exist in any ANY PART OF THE WORLD .There is no background from Lusitanian "appearence" ,they always existed since times.

From north to south of Portugal tens of stones,pieces,CASTROS,weapons,etc,etc from Neolithic era .Dont tell me that it was the Cimbris also ? Celtics ?
Again, read on the right places before trying to be smart and correct others "without actually knowing or providing facts that they were not.".

[Spec]

It's hard to decifer any of what you said to contribute plausible evidence to the origins of the Lusitani people. If you know better please provide me with solid evidence about their ORIGINS

I never said anything about their appearance, or they were greek, iberian or fenician decendants.

All this text is either unnecessary or has no evidence or a very vague explanation of the Lusitani origins.

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And there you go,again .
I dont need wikilinks .Im portuguese . I have visited tens of museums,places with ancient Castros i know what i say .Lusitanian people ,people, had received invasors from Greeks,Fenicians,Gallic Celts,German tribes,Romans,Carthaginians .
So you wanna say that the Lusitanians are all that ?
Get good books before talking about something serious.

Lusitani come from the the people that lived betwen the river Douro and Tejo .
The cult of the Gods of the Lusitanian, didnt had anything to do with any other Indo-European even the a Iberian. That quote of Diodorus Siculus is totally wrong translated .That person even writes that Hercules was king of Iberia my friend there you go with the credibility.

The Cimbri plunder allmost all the Europe therefore we are all Danish now ...

By you´re logic, so, romans are not really romans . They are Latins,Etruscians,Sarmatians,Germans,Gauls,Carthaginains,Greeks .
Use youre head and read carefully , wher that archeologist PORPOSED. Whos that "famous" archeologist that never

The Celts invaded the Iberian Peninsula ,they acted as warlords . A warlord, allows the native population to live as they lived before ,but paying a tribute and were forbiden to use weapons. When the wars arrived who fought were the Celts.

Lusitanian tribes revolt and manage to take the control of weapons .

Lusitanian tribes,culture,clans were NOT from celtic,greek,fenician,iberian. There are tons of artfacts of the cult,weapons,etc that do not exist in any ANY PART OF THE WORLD .There is no background from Lusitanian "appearence" ,they always existed since Neardantal times.

From north to south of Portugal tens of stones,pieces from Neolithic era .Dont tell me that it was the Cimbris also ? Celtics ?
Again, read on the right places before trying to be smart and correct others.

I'm not trying to be smart, i'm just trying to have a civil discussion.

[oOIYvYIOo]

I dont have to provide more of what i already did.Its up to you to accept it or not but since you ego is to big , you dont even bother to googlish what i said . Goodbye.

[Spec]

Dude, you provided very vague evidence about their origins, and to be honest it was pretty poorly constructed.

And LMAO, my ego is big? i was talking to you in a polite and civil manner, not once did i got to the extent of insulting you, unlike you did to me. Sorry to say but the tone of your posts had a negative disposition towards me personally, I gather this is derived from a grudge because i called you out being a douchbag on my thread ages ago?
http://steamcommunity.com/app/214950/discussions/0/864977025878261415/

Anyways...goodbye, lol.

[Tommy]

non of us were around 2000 years ago, so no-one can argue who is right and who is wrong. for all we know, all of this infomation we are told could be completely wrong.

[oOIYvYIOo]

You called Lionheart a veteran a person that knows the game ,just as you another "child fan", he cant win a campaign on HARD level without reloading 20 times to fix is mistakes... here it shows how you know well the game and the community.

Ahahaha you´re hilarious. You come here joking about the affirmation of 2 portuguese natives .
Portugal its not England, we know where we come from .
Good to see you remember me ,because i dont ,but nothing changed from youre person.Arrogant,no knwoledge of the game ,conviced of himself,again i dont need to provide you of nothing of what i alreay did here ,but,since there are more people reading this .
To shut you once and for all,enjoy youre ignorance :

http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cromeleque_dos_Almendres


Tommy Holmes ,of course not ,it was the alliens that came and made all of this right ?
Da ♥♥♥ is hapening on that country ...

[Spec]

So what happened to "I dont need wikilinks .Im portuguese ", you just linked me a wiki page, which by the way has nothing to do with the orgins of the Lusitani people.

Your trying to prove me that people were already living in what is modern day portugal, yes that is correct, there were people living there thousands of years ago.
I'm trying to explain the orgin of the lusitani tribe, how it came to be and how they are linked to celtic and germanic heritage, is that hard to understand?

That was Heir of Carthage by the way, and i called him an experienced player, not a veteran, there is a differance.
And it was not a matter of him knowing the game, it was about his experience of playing previous Total war games, he essentially knows what he is doing. You were trying to call him a noob and boast your ego, like some competitive child, it was unnecessary drivel to the topic.

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Ahahaha you´re hilarious. You come here joking about the affirmation of 2 portuguese natives .
but nothing changed from youre person.Arrogant,no knwoledge of the game ,conviced of himself,again i dont need to provide you of nothing of what i alreay did here ,but,since there are more people reading this .
To shut you once and for all,enjoy youre ignorance
Tommy Holmes ,of course not ,it was the alliens that came and made all of this right ?
Da ♥♥♥ is hapening on that country ...

Can you not see the irony when you call someone "arrogant, conviced himself, egomaniac, ignorant" after saying that, Lmao.

Oh and by the way...What happened to Goodbye? i thought you said you were leaving.

[Knox]

I think the problem here is that, as I understand it, we get to play the Lusitani at something like 270 BC, most (Non Roman, Germanic of some form) invaders they get tied into are from ~100 BC forward and so at the time we start playing them they seemingly should have no contact with them.

[Madness]

Any other portuguese reading? just want to know if that kind of behaviour is general for the portuguese, or we are just dealing with an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that happens to come from Portugal?