Seige Lag - NEED HELP :(

[Fra]

I am Really sad at the moment since I have been experiencing MASSIVE lag during Seige Battles in Rome 2.

I start the Battle and everything is fine with nearly 50 FPS, After some units start climbing walls and all that..... BOOM!, game start acting like this - Camera Moveable with no lag, but units wont give a s*it that they are supposed to move, instead all units freeze. After 5 Seconds scrolling and moving my camera, Units move for 1 second and BOOM! once again huge LAG Spikes

Is anyone still experiencing this Problem guys?

[Aquadude]

Have you tried lowering graphics quality, or other options that may cause lag? It might be your computer is unable to handle such large scale rendering using high definition. Larger armies tend to cause more lag too.

[Fra]

I have Invidia GTX 760 AND Intel Core i7 2600 + 16 GB Ram :D

[Kylin117]

check your CPU :D

[Raoule]

hello^^ its a mix of different factors... the formation attack and this senseless rush into a gate or to a ladder/tower make some units spread out like ♥♥♥♥... sometimes a part like 10% of the unit storm ur center but if u try to target them with a ranged unit, this unit always target the "center" of the enemy unit (red arrow) which is sometimes on the ladder or even still outside the walls. then u lag badly. Also sometimes u "manage" to throw an enemy soldier into a blocked area. when the soldier get thrown away from ballista but didnt die and lands in an area(structure) where he cant walk oustside.
and some more,mainly from pathfinding... Solution is to prevent that events i listed from happening or use some mods that alter the formation. also lowering unit size isnt bad. U can add more units per army mod to compensate.
I did all that, means i attack the siege weapon outside and fight in front of the walls so the enemy wont rush all his troops to 1 place instead he fights and only some try to enter the town.
or let them enter on all fronts to spread them a bit... Also i NEVER build lvl 3 cities to always be able to let them enter if i want to. The artillery surely bomb away all siege equip and so it lags for the reason above. Thats why i didnt build lvl 3 main city stuff. also i use a better siege mod which give better and more siege equip so the enemy spread out a bit more. All in all i can play siege battle with 15k soldier without beeing stuck mostly. sometimes u need to find the lag unit and attack it and lag ends magically^^

Btw,dont try to search a mod that simply remove the reasons from above. Ca wont do it Community cant and if anybody does it we will find another problem. Pathfinding make our cpu work a lot and this isnt the best in Rome 2. But its still the best game in this segment for me even with this small bugs. And like i said u can prevent and nearly execute them from game if u follow those easy steps.
srry for wall of text, greetz

[Fra]

"Solution is to prevent that events i listed from happening or use some mods that alter the formation."

What Mods do you suggest? And what Difference does this make?

[Raoule]

a complete formation attack removal is a bit overburst... but u may can use spacing mods too. w8 ill check some links... this one helps a lot info on mod page with some screens i guess

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=311519047

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=357166276

and then u can completely remove formation attack but thats not in my favour,there are plenty mods for that. also i adjust the battle mechanics like a mad man. maybe higher kill rate and faster movement also help to prevent those "traffic jams". But best is always the attack or even sally out to prevent this lags.Srry to say^^ then u fight similar to open field,the problem with lag is from pathfinding with buildings and streets mainly and not that bad in open field

[InkNite]

I got the same problem here.
I am using:
GTX 970
RAM16
i7 6700k

4 v 4 (ai)
But it still lag like hell, at first my though is may be on my video setting is too high and too much units (around 40k), but after i lower it low graphic setting and only 12k units(1.5k per team) still lagging, until i make it 2v2 (6k units in total). Then they only run smoothy,

I dont thing this has any things to do with my hardware issues, cause i am still getting 40fps while running it with max setting and 40k units.

Any help ?

[Jonboy]

download the lastest Nvida driver. It really improves the FPS/

[InkNite]

already installed lastest navida driver. Fps never really been a problem

[Falcon]

Originally posted by InkNite:

already installed lastest navida driver. Fps never really been a problem

Your CPU might be throttling due to overheating. Do you have something like CPUID HW Monitor running that will let you log your CPU/GPU loads and temps?

[InkNite]

i did not turn on temps monitor, but it is well cool by air cooler and enviorment temp is around 25

[Raoule]

Hey^^ I guess the fps drops are from the game not from your system. U notice the same on open field/normal non walled battles? I had a strange situation where i lagged so badly(1-2 fps) with 40fps shown. So the fps counter and also the benchmark tool should give u a good setting range for your Pc setup. But in some situation game starts to lag like ♥♥♥♥ out of nowhere. Maybe u can check the fps shown with steam tool and tell us the result to confirm my ingame feelings? i have normal fps lag like below 20 fps sometimes when i have to fight 120 unit battles. but NEVER below 15 shown so there is a bottleneck from game for sure. But i cant figure out what it is. The "bugged" units i mentioned above are one factor tho, but i need to delete all to fully enjoy maxed out game.Gimme the good news :-)
greetz^^