Divide Et Impera vs Para Bellum

[Red Warrior]

I want to have a new fresh campaign with Mods but I am confused. Please help me choose one.

[BRAN MAC BORN]

WARS OF THE GODS-ANCIENT WARS. There you have it. Has everything you need in an overhaul and you can make it your own with any of the 50 plus sub mods to choose from.

[Red Warrior]

Originally posted by BRAN MAC BORN:

WARS OF THE GODS-ANCIENT WARS. There you have it.

Why that one?

[wjpower2003]

It depends what you're looking for. Para Bellum is a really good mod and has lots of submods so that you can tailor your modding experience to your particular flavour but I've found that even collectively, the differences don't really add up to much when compared to the DEI base mod.

With DEI, in addition to the look and feel of the game, pretty much all the mechanics have been changed in some significant way and DEI even has it's own built in mechanics like:

- Prominent Faction Leaders - your faction leaders have different traits which affect taxation, public order, population growth etc.

- People of Rome - your population is split into 4 faction-specific socioeconomic classes which determine how many of what kinds of troops can be recruited in any given region and different regional buildings can affect the rates at which a particular class will increase in population.

- Supply Line Reform System - this slows down your progression so that you don't just sweep across the map before 100 turns. You need to maintain supply lines with regional buildings like grain silos so that your armies can not only be resupplied and replenished, but also so that they can march into a neighbouring region of a different faction without your army going into attrition.

[Red Warrior]

Originally posted by wjpower2003:

It depends what you're looking for. Para Bellum is a really good mod and has lots of submods so that you can tailor your modding experience to your particular flavour but I've found that even collectively, the differences don't really add up to much when compared to the DEI base mod.

With DEI, in addition to the look and feel of the game, pretty much all the mechanics have been changed in some significant way and DEI even has it's own built in mechanics like:

- Prominent Faction Leaders - your faction leaders have different traits which affect taxation, public order, population growth etc.

- People of Rome - your population is split into 4 faction-specific socioeconomic classes which determine how many of what kinds of troops can be recruited in any given region and different regional buildings can affect the rates at which a particular class will increase in population.

- Supply Line Reform System - this slows down your progression so that you don't just sweep across the map before 100 turns. You need to maintain supply lines with regional buildings like grain silos so that your armies can not only be resupplied and replenished, but also so that they can march into a neighbouring region of a different faction with your army going into attrition.

I heard DEI crashes a lot and have performance issues. Is it true?

[kam2150]

DeI does not crash at all if you are not using incompatible mods or there are no other issues with the install.
Performance fully depends on your PC, since mods has a lot of new textures and models.

[Red Warrior]

Originally posted by kam2150:

DeI does not crash at all if you are not using incompatible mods or there are no other issues with the install.
Performance fully depends on your PC, since mods has a lot of new textures and models.

What is the recommended specs for DEI Mod?

[kam2150]

What do you have?

For example DeI also has larger unit size by default so lowering unit size in graphic options might bring the numbers closer to vanilla and thus lower performance requirements.

[Red Warrior]

Originally posted by kam2150:

What do you have?

For example DeI also has larger unit size by default so lowering unit size in graphic options might bring the numbers closer to vanilla and thus lower performance requirements.

I have gtx 1650 and ryzen 3550h and 32 GB RAM(I took this much RAM for ANNO 1800 as it consumes over 20 + GB RAM)

[Vasitheas]

Originally posted by Red Warrior:

I want to have a new fresh campaign with Mods but I am confused. Please help me choose one.

probably doesn't matter. what's important is that we get to live the past glory. in the game we get to conquer and destroy barbarians, the filth of the world. wiping out these white devils is actually a treat. you'll like it.

[Malistair]

Originally posted by Red Warrior:

Originally posted by wjpower2003:

It depends what you're looking for. Para Bellum is a really good mod and has lots of submods so that you can tailor your modding experience to your particular flavour but I've found that even collectively, the differences don't really add up to much when compared to the DEI base mod.

With DEI, in addition to the look and feel of the game, pretty much all the mechanics have been changed in some significant way and DEI even has it's own built in mechanics like:

- Prominent Faction Leaders - your faction leaders have different traits which affect taxation, public order, population growth etc.

- People of Rome - your population is split into 4 faction-specific socioeconomic classes which determine how many of what kinds of troops can be recruited in any given region and different regional buildings can affect the rates at which a particular class will increase in population.

- Supply Line Reform System - this slows down your progression so that you don't just sweep across the map before 100 turns. You need to maintain supply lines with regional buildings like grain silos so that your armies can not only be resupplied and replenished, but also so that they can march into a neighbouring region of a different faction with your army going into attrition.

I heard DEI crashes a lot and have performance issues. Is it true?

No. DEI is super stable for me.

[Malistair]

Overall I would recommend DEI. Para Bellum is good, but I prefer DEI due to the difficulty and realism it offers. It forces you to slow down, make strategic decisions, manage diplomacy, etc. It makes losing a battle a significant drawback instead of a mosquito bite like in vanilla. I highly recommend DEI. Kam and his team really crushed it and the fact that they are still supporting the mod now with updates is simply mind boggling.

[Chef0Death88]

Originally posted by Red Warrior:

Originally posted by kam2150:

What do you have?

For example DeI also has larger unit size by default so lowering unit size in graphic options might bring the numbers closer to vanilla and thus lower performance requirements.

I have gtx 1650 and ryzen 3550h and 32 GB RAM(I took this much RAM for ANNO 1800 as it consumes over 20 + GB RAM)

Your specs are fine for Rome 2 and DeI. Its older so only really needs 4gb Video Memory.

[Red Warrior]

I really love the battle and unit design of DEI. I have downloaded it for the battles. But the campaign doesnot suit me.

[Red Warrior]

Originally posted by BRAN MAC BORN:

WARS OF THE GODS-ANCIENT WARS. There you have it.

The UI Design of Para Bellum and War of the Gods- Ancient Wars are quite same. I loved the design. But I love the Unit models of War of the Gods than Para Bellum even though I preferred the unit cards of Para Bellum.

[81k]

Why could you not try both? It is so easy. Just subscribe the mods, have a couple hours run of one collections and then the other, so you can decide for yourself.

I myself prefer Para Bellum. The interface looks much better, much easier on the eyes, everything is way prettier, especially if you like/prefer Hellenic factions. Also the i prefer that I can play the Wrath of Sparta campaign as it was intended in Para Bellum. DEI actually changes it a bit. Also I prefer not to prolong the campaign that much, because I like the battles a lot, and am not a fan of hours staring at campaign map to micromanage.

I tried DEI couple times, but always went back to Para Bellum. But all in all, both collections are high quality, also the Wars of the Gods, those are all high quality mods, you should give all of them a fair chance and not just pick one.

Honorable mention ; Hellenika ;)