DEI or Radious?

[Jack Greedy]

Which one do You recommend and why?
I think Radious did excellent job with his mods for games like 3 Kingdoms and Attila, i just want help in decide which overhaul should i use in ROME?

[Kryzzan]

Political....

[MANWHATADONGA]

dei for a lot more thinking, radious for battles.

[닝닝 공주님의 기사]

DEI has supply system like europa. your army can't really be 20 units because
they will take attrition.

also it has population system not simplified as rome 1 but divided into 5 classes.
which prevent you from recruiting unless you have enough population.

i don't recommend this mode.

also check out the must have mode list below:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2937742808

[wjpower2003]

Originally posted by Vynliean:

DEI has supply system like europa. your army can't really be 20 units because
they will take attrition.

What are you even talking about? I'm currently playing as Rome and have plenty of full stack armies, some of which are in foreign territory and they are not in attrition because:

a) each stack has a baggage train

and

b) I have set up supply line buildings like grain pits and grain silos which extend supply lines.

There are many reasons that an army goes into attrition but having 20 units in a stack is not one of them.

Originally posted by Vynliean:

also it has population system not simplified as rome 1 but divided into 5 classes.
which prevent you from recruiting unless you have enough population.

Yes, and that's a good thing......... in my opinion anyway. It makes the game more difficult so that you can't just steamroll over the entire map with ease in the early game. It's features like this that make the game more challenging.

Originally posted by Vynliean:

i don't recommend this mode.

I heartily recommend it.

[닝닝 공주님의 기사]

mods are supposed to get rid of annoying things. Like the ones in the guide.
DEI does exactly the opposit.

Vanilla is better than DEI.

DEI does not improve Rome 2 total war. It makes things worse.

[kam2150]

No, mod were never supposed to get rid of stuff, its just one of things mods can do while in history of TW, most popular mods were the ones that ADDED stuff and make game more complex and fun.

You just want easier, more casual and arcade style game and that is fine but don't claim stuff like that are what mods are supposed to do.

As for original question, DeI and Radious are polar opposites of eachother, where DeI aims at more complex and realistic gameplay with tons of new stuff added to the game while Radius is vanilla turned to 11, so less accurate approach to factions, less realistic battles but also a lot faster gameplay. This lets players pick whatever playstyle fits them most.

[닝닝 공주님의 기사]

Originally posted by kam2150:

No, mod were never supposed to get rid of stuff, its just one of things mods can do while in history of TW, most popular mods were the ones that ADDED stuff and make game more complex and fun.

You just want easier, more casual and arcade style game and that is fine but don't claim stuff like that are what mods are supposed to do.

As for original question, DeI and Radious are polar opposites of eachother, where DeI aims at more complex and realistic gameplay with tons of new stuff added to the game while Radius is vanilla turned to 11, so less accurate approach to factions, less realistic battles but also a lot faster gameplay. This lets players pick whatever playstyle fits them most.

lol if you consider chunk of your land and army betray you or agents disababandon 3 units per turn following your army every where is good mechanic of the game yea sure.

i bet you play on normal difficulty.

[kam2150]

Ok, so this is that type of conversation, well good luck with your life then ;)

But yes, agents are broken, hence why they are overhauled in DeI and for example you AI agents cant disband your units as they got whole new set of functions. Curbing agents was one of first things added into DeI.

[wjpower2003]

Originally posted by Vynliean:

Originally posted by kam2150:

No, mod were never supposed to get rid of stuff, its just one of things mods can do while in history of TW, most popular mods were the ones that ADDED stuff and make game more complex and fun.

You just want easier, more casual and arcade style game and that is fine but don't claim stuff like that are what mods are supposed to do.

As for original question, DeI and Radious are polar opposites of eachother, where DeI aims at more complex and realistic gameplay with tons of new stuff added to the game while Radius is vanilla turned to 11, so less accurate approach to factions, less realistic battles but also a lot faster gameplay. This lets players pick whatever playstyle fits them most.

lol if you consider chunk of your land and army betray you or agents disababandon 3 units per turn following your army every where is good mechanic of the game yea sure.

i bet you play on normal difficulty.

Once again you are not even describing DEI - you are describing Vanilla. I think you need to give your head a wobble.

[Jack Greedy]

Well Friends, i have both mods in my launcher, played a lot with DEI and it is very good, but same is Radious. Both mods are okay. It depends from the mood. In the long term i always be choosing DEI but when i want quicker campaign, packed with action im going with Radious. Don't even think about going vanilla.

[wjpower2003]

Originally posted by Jack Greedy:

Well Friends, i have both mods in my launcher, played a lot with DEI and it is very good, but same is Radious. Both mods are okay. It depends from the mood. In the long term i always be choosing DEI but when i want quicker campaign, packed with action im going with Radious. Don't even think about going vanilla.

I've had the game since mid 2015, have logged over 7100 hours of R2TW and not a single hour was Vanilla...... mostly DEI with a few hours of WoTG and Para Bellum mixed in.

[Jack Greedy]

Wow, wjpower2003 it is a lot of hours poured in. But game is great to play for sure so it is time good invested.

[kam2150]

There is a ton of variety and its good to mix stuff up from time to time.

I mean, I am one of DeI leads, been working on it for almost 10 years but it does not mean I havent completed few vanilla and Radious campaign myself.

[Jack Greedy]

Yes DEI is magnificent work, and one of the symbols of Total War.

[Wayz]

Originally posted by Vynliean:

lol if you consider chunk of your land and army betray you or agents disababandon 3 units per turn following your army every where is good mechanic of the game yea sure.

i bet you play on normal difficulty.

You don't like it lol, we get it. You do realise there is no prize for winning your point of view right?