Antique Egypt

[FlyingSharky]

I played so many times with Scythian and conquered the game map. Also i played shortly with Athens,Spartans etc. These day i start with Egypt but i feel like play with Athens or Spartans. I know at 332 BC Egypt conquered by Great Alexander but is it normal that i feel like play with them?

[Pharaoh]

You might want to check out wars of the gods the mod has a very unique take on the egyptians by combining bronze era age elements with the ptolomiac troops so prepare for kopesh weilding phalanxes with a vast calvary selection
And the pharaonic axemen

You can also check out my sub mod as well which evens out the roster a bit

Nice to see another Egyptian history fan

[Hori]

They share almost no troops and have different technologies and buildings. If you put it like that, all the Hellenic factions are completely the same.

[Pharaoh]

Originally posted by Sabhotep:

They share almost no troops and have different technologies and buildings. If you put it like that, all the Hellenic factions are completely the same.

That's the thing about the greek successor empires they were uniquely diverse and inclusive for their time they took on the look and culture of the peoples they conqured


Then along came rome and they turned it up to 11 with the auxlia and foedorati systems



This is the thing about toons wars of the gods mod that I like each greek sucessor state looks and feels unique better reflecting history rather than copying and pasting macedonian troops and switching colours around

[Hori]

What's funny is that copying and pasting Macedonian troops and switching colours around is the historically accurate portrayal. The Ptolemies (or how you write it in English) actually came up with a 'let's recruit locals too!' system long after Grand Campaign begins. So historically speaking your tech tree should unlock Egyptian troops AFTER Greek ones. Not the other way around.

[Pharaoh]

Originally posted by Sabhotep:

What's funny is that copying and pasting Macedonian troops and switching colours around is the historically accurate portrayal. The Ptolemies (or how you write it in English) actually came up with a 'let's recruit locals too!' system long after Grand Campaign begins. So historically speaking your tech tree should unlock Egyptian troops AFTER Greek ones. Not the other way around.

But that doesnt make a fun game now does it



The way wars of the gods did it seems to be this



1.Take traditional greek unit
2.Add local flair say give them native style dress and arm them with traditional egytpian equipment (the haetori becomes the knights of ra and so on)so you are still respectful to history while keeping your game exciting it's pretty genius actually.

[The Last Monke]

Originally posted by Pharaoh:

Originally posted by Sabhotep:

What's funny is that copying and pasting Macedonian troops and switching colours around is the historically accurate portrayal. The Ptolemies (or how you write it in English) actually came up with a 'let's recruit locals too!' system long after Grand Campaign begins. So historically speaking your tech tree should unlock Egyptian troops AFTER Greek ones. Not the other way around.

But that doesnt make a fun game now does it



The way wars of the gods did it seems to be this



1.Take traditional greek unit
2.Add local flair say give them native style dress and arm them with traditional egytpian equipment (the haetori becomes the knights of ra and so on)so you are still respectful to history while keeping your game exciting it's pretty genius actually.

Just play the first Rome game if you wan't an Egyptian faction with a uniquely Egyptian style.

[Pharaoh]

Originally posted by BLAIN:

Originally posted by Pharaoh:

But that doesnt make a fun game now does it



The way wars of the gods did it seems to be this



1.Take traditional greek unit
2.Add local flair say give them native style dress and arm them with traditional egytpian equipment (the haetori becomes the knights of ra and so on)so you are still respectful to history while keeping your game exciting it's pretty genius actually.

Just play the first Rome game if you wan't an Egyptian faction with a uniquely Egyptian style.

No what im saying is im ok with both interpretations not that I like one over the other.

[LuL]

I want to play with sparta to in the grand campaign .... how ?

[Welsh Dragon]

Originally posted by █▄ █▄█ █▄:

I want to play with sparta to in the grand campaign .... how ?

You need the Greek States Culture Pack DLC.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/212301/Total_War_ROME_II__Greek_States_Culture_Pack/?curator_clanid=4458423

All the best,

Welsh Dragon.

[Hori]

Originally posted by Pharaoh:

But that doesnt make a fun game now does it

store.steampowered.com/app/201270

[Pharaoh]

Originally posted by Sabhotep:

Originally posted by Pharaoh:

But that doesnt make a fun game now does it

store.steampowered.com/app/201270

XD that's the exception

[Hori]

I prefer historical games to be, you know, historical. It irritates me very much already that
Carthage is split into 'Carthage' and 'New Carthage' even though such a faction 'New Carthage' never even existed, obviously just a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ attempt by CA to 'nerf' Carthage
You can recruit as many Praetorians/First Cohorts per army as you want, but they can't serve as your general's bodyguards (which is absolute bollocks because guarding the general was the very purpose they existed for in the first place)
Athens and Sparta are basically independent factions even though it's bloody 272 BC
Cyrenaica is a legit faction even though technically they're Egyptian Seccessionists, and it's led by one Neferukekashta, who's essentially a random chick, instead of the historical Magas of Cyrene
Veneti are a generic Celtic tribe
Etruscans are basically Romans without legionaries
There's no Samnite resistance around Neapolis (even though the game begins immediately after Romans conquered that area)
Ptolemies have earlier access to local Egyptian troops than to their own Greek ones
Romans have some weird 'Auxiliary Infantry', 'Cavalry' and whatnot, which appear to just spawn out of nowhere in any bloody province and don't seem to have any obvious cultural affiliation; literally who the hell are these guys??
Quite a few factions live in wrong territory/weren't around at the time
There are factions that never existed altogether
Many settlements have absolutely nonsenscial names
Roman troops have the Hispanic swords before even learning of Hispania's existence
Legionaries don't wear neck protection
etc etc
And also, in Attila, there's a bunch of units that were never even hypothesised to had existed, which means they're basically pure fantasy on CA's side; it's especially obvious in Slavs
I'd like the game to get closer to history over time, not vice versa! I just fail to recognise how Greeks sharing unit types can make a historical game any less fun, it's history dude!

[Pharaoh]

Originally posted by Sabhotep:

I prefer historical games to be, you know, historical. It irritates me very much already that
Carthage is split into 'Carthage' and 'New Carthage' even though such a faction 'New Carthage' never even existed, obviously just a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ attempt by CA to 'nerf' Carthage
You can recruit as many Praetorians/First Cohorts per army as you want, but they can't serve as your general's bodyguards (which is absolute bollocks because guarding the general was the very purpose they existed for in the first place)
Athens and Sparta are basically independent factions even though it's bloody 272 BC
Cyrenaica is a legit faction even though technically they're Egyptian Seccessionists, and it's led by one Neferukekashta, who's essentially a random chick, instead of the historical Magas of Cyrene
Veneti are a generic Celtic tribe
Etruscans are basically Romans without legionaries
There's no Samnite resistance around Neapolis (even though the game begins immediately after Romans conquered that area)
Ptolemies have earlier access to local Egyptian troops than to their own Greek ones
Romans have some weird 'Auxiliary Infantry', 'Cavalry' and whatnot, which appear to just spawn out of nowhere in any bloody province and don't seem to have any obvious cultural affiliation; literally who the hell are these guys??
Quite a few factions live in wrong territory/weren't around at the time
There are factions that never existed altogether
Many settlements have absolutely nonsenscial names
Roman troops have the Hispanic swords before even learning of Hispania's existence
Legionaries don't wear neck protection
etc etc
And also, in Attila, there's a bunch of units that were never even hypothesised to had existed, which means they're basically pure fantasy on CA's side; it's especially obvious in Slavs
I'd like the game to get closer to history over time, not vice versa! I just fail to recognise how Greeks sharing unit types can make a historical game any less fun, it's history dude!

Have Total war games ever been purely historical though? nobody seems to remember the 4 fuedal roman factions in rome 1 with the senate behaving almost like the vatican but yeah I can totally understand where you are coming from

luckily we have mods to help with that stuff.




I thought shogun 2 was pretty accurate for the most part except samurai used katanas mainly as a side arm and that the peasents did most of the fighting and the rich people mostly stayed locked up in castles and bows should have been way more common than melee weapons Hokkaido was cut for some reason. honestly there was nothing romantic about the samurai period it was pretty dystopian as hell just complete an utter collapse of a civilization that took centuries to recover also im no imperial apologist either they did some nasty stuff with china during ww2 and the surrounding area and terrorized the pacific for years.




Tl;dr:war is bad can we not do it plz