LOYALTY -TIPS AND NEW MECHANICS --Rise of Rome and the New loyalty System - -

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Post tips for keeping loyalty up!

Hey guys, I’m realizing the new system is massively confusing. There aren't any guides or info on how loyalty works. Worse if you're playing on Very Hard you get a -25 loyalty. I've been playing around with the system and I’ve found a ton of new ways to keep party loyalty up without having to use mods.

Please post your tips and secrets -

Thank you.

--main tip, wife up your other parties leaders -- lvl 2 wife gives +6 loyalty-- two of them that's +12 perm.. easy peasy.

also stack great character perks - each char has a unique trait -men and women

example https://imgur.com/a/bJHbwso

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1. There is a Provincial Edict that gives +10 loyalty to the ruling party of that region. Conquer an area with a general from another family and put that on. Bam Perm +10 loyalty. if you look at the party thing, it tells you how many areas they own. This will also keep them happy

2. Having your other family faction leader get a wife, and upgrading the wife - my 2nd perk influential woman gave a +3 mod to loyalty. so select a few leaders in the other parties and get them wifed up with women with loyalty perks. 2nd level upgraded wife gives +6 loyatly - have two wives upgraded - BAM +12 perm loyalty.


3.3rd tier research called praetor gives +10 loyalty perm from all parties. it takes 12 turns to research it and the two prior techs. Just click on it.

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4. The politics panel, secure loyatly - this one is obvious

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5. Securing promotion (upgrading) other family generals will also give them high chance of gaining loyalty perks.

6. Wives of Leaders have specialty perks, a very small icon. One is mercantile - +1 loyatly per trade agreement up to +10..

Another is Expansionist + 5 loyatly for 2 tuns for each province captured.

7. Sending a Wife as a diplomat from another party to another faction - Say you want better status with a future trade interest - gives that party a loyalty boost.

8. Male member of another party got a perk called traditionalist +1 loyalty for each province where players cultuire is dominant --- look at char perks

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My tip is to wait for CA to fix it. You can do all these things mentioned and you'd still have secessipns constantly on legendary.

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I like diplomatic mariage of my daughters (life long loyalty increase) and then use these daughters to seduce people in other parties. Seducing costs influence, so give promotion to daughters which have high enough stats to seduce and then spam it as much as you can (promotion will increase daughter influence so they can seduce more often).

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Originally posted by (VS)Stark:

seriously man, keep the spam low so people can read actual tips. There are other threads you can leave messages like that on.

TIPS ON MECHANICS ONLY - AND YES YOU CAN CONTROL LOYALTY

Yes you can control loyalty on easy which i suspect you play.

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i'm playing on very hard with a -25 loyalty perm,.stop being a cringe troll

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Originally posted by (VS)Stark:

i'm playing on very hard with a -25 loyalty perm,.stop being a cringe troll

Show me a screenshot of you playing late-game on VH with politics being managed.

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https://imgur.com/a/FLVhvZE

9 and 8 loyatly respectivly, and i'm still implementing other tips and suggestions.

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Originally posted by (VS)Stark:

https://imgur.com/a/FLVhvZE

9 and 8 loyatly respectivly, and i'm still implementing other tips and suggestions.

Lmao imperium level +10

Which means you have max 2 settlements
Get out of here.

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that's the tech bonus

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Originally posted by (VS)Stark:

that's the tech bonus

If that is the case, then you are still not late game.You are at maximum imperium level 3. ALso that tech only exists for Rome, how will you deal with other factions? Also try playing legnedary if you are an expert, when every faction is also declaring war on you, we will see if you can sit around in your 1 province spamming political actions lol.

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you have to combine a lot of stuff to get it to work, its not easy.

but it can be done. Province edict gives +10 for ruling party - each wife +6 - sending wife on diplomatic missions gives +3 or more per action - tech gives +10, certain wife traits give +1 to +5 per type of action or condition

and this is just the iceberg. I'm finding new stuff and posting it here.

my advice is to really focus on wives and women. They give the best buffs

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This may very well work for Rome, if it has this tech, but most factions dont have it. So thats -10 off your loyalty already so we are at -2 and -1. Now when you are high imperium, you get -15 for loyalty. So we are at -17 and -16, now what? That's with you doing all this political actions and still fail. That's my point.

Also as i said, Legendary which i was mainly talking about is a whole different game anyway. Can't quicksave, AI is far more aggressive and can field more armies, and diplomacy is harder. Bad political traits are also more frequent in Legendary.

I played on Hard, and it was easy as ♥♥♥♥, i almost completed Taras campaign in about 4 hours. But refused to complete ti on easy mode.

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no no dude. a lvl 2 wife gives +6 --- you gotta keep the other faction with 2-3 dudes and 2-3 wives.. that's 12-18 loyalty right there

each wife has speciality perks, some give -10 whentheir influience is lower than the leading parties. You gotta kill that ♥♥♥♥♥.

others give +5 loyalty per city captured for 2 turns, one i have gives +1 loyalty per trade route.. imagine if you had 4 trade routes - and 1-2 wives stacking. thats + 4-8 --- because each wife gives it to the party.

breeding children and marrying the women off to other party members works well too.


i'm telling you look at wives - stack wives. Also the men get loyalty perks if you force their promition early - they get +3 each

3 guys - 9, 3 wives 18 ---- that's 27 loyalty not even factoring in tech, other perks, diplomatic spams

ITS ALL ABOUT WIVES

legendary is supposed to be stupid hard.. I think they just need to add more control of loyalty.. but what i'm trying to figure out is ---- what is it we are missing.. because i played and died like 20 times over and over from sucessions.. one game i had like 15 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucessions.. and now i'm realizing i can control loyalty by abusing the wife mechanics.